Bumblebea123
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Well, well, well fellow tattlers .... I have some information! I’ve been doing a bit of my own weesearch about this new venture. I might be wrong but I don’t think chins is as clever as she thinks she is. I’m copying and paying to this post, a brilliant synopsis of the situation with starting a business selling smellies etc. The accountant within me is for ever looking for facts/figures/info and so I couldn’t help myself but see how chins and bean seem to measure up against what appear to be the requirements ... what I’ve found is interesting:
Firstly, the MLJ website is woefully inadequate. It ought to tell us exactly WHERE the pwoducts are made. This includes a correspondence address. There is not any address on her website.
Secondly, the website should tell us by WHOM the pwoducts are bein’ made; it doesn’t. I’m assuming this is like you might buy a bottle of wine from Aldi and it says in tiny print in the back ‘made for Aldi in X by so and so’.
If, as we tattlers suspect, the pwoducts are being’ made, in part by a wholesale company and in part by the LF company, it should therefore say. I just checked out LF company and there is no address on her website either - there is a box to email but this isn’t good enough. There are a whole load of other issues with Lisa’s website in my view, not least the fact that she seems to be attempting to pass off her luxury fragrances in their various forms, as well known brands. There’s not even an attempt to describe them as ‘mistaken for’ etc ... anyway, back to chins.
Chins and Bean took great pains to tell us that they had done their research over many munffs. I’m wondering what this involved, but I am guessing that this didn’t include receiving full training in respect of making products for use on bodies. No mention of that, hey. Well, as such, they would never have got insurance and so when she says pwoducts are fully insured, what she has done is purchisssss pwoducts that are made for her and they have done with the various certificates and insurance (more on that in a minute...). So, when the biznisssss is described as a little family business based in East Sussex, this is entirely misleading. It conjures up visions of the products being lovingly handmade in someone’s kitchen etc etc ... everyone loves a bit of handmade etc ... The correspondence address might be in East Sussex but I’m guessing the wholesalers isn’t. In addition, because the website is so poorly worded and says after all that ‘fully CLP compliant, assessed and insured products’; this doesn’t mean anything. This is deliberate in my view. It could have said ‘we make all our products at our home and we are fully insured etc...’ but the way it’s worded, quite deliberately doesn’t refer to who is doing the doing, or where the doing is being done. It’s depersonalised and meaningless.
The next thing I’ve noticed is that she calls the pwoducts ‘clp compliant’ - this refers to the labeling and thefact that if a bath or body care product has a hazardous substance in (one that could cause an allergy etc) then it has to be listed on the product itself. It’s hard to see the back of the pwoducts but they don’t appear to have any label on save for the MLJ logo.
I then ask, what’s all this ‘testing’ of pwoducts about? The other day chins showed us three body creams that she was testing to make sure she came up with the right formula and the one she was using was a bit greasy. This is just nonsense, designed once again to mislead, suggesting that she herself is actively having an input into the ingredients and the ratios of the said ingredients. She has no training whatsoever in such matters and therefore it’s absolutely inconceivable that she would be suggesting to the wholesaler manufacturers what proportions of ingredients to include etc, because how would they ever be able to get insurance in this case?
So, it’s really clear that chins is more accurately to be described as a distributor of mass produced, wholesale products, the makeup and compilation of which, she has absolutely no input into and, we know not from where these pwoducts originate and who on earth makes them, except for the illusive ‘team of ladies’. This probably refers to a machine somewhere, but the way it is worded and the way she has spoken of it, leads the unsuspecting follower that chins is ringing up saying: ‘Margaret, this one lacked a little patchouli, and can we up the emollient content please...’ . And this is not acceptable. It’s entirely misleading snd an attempt to pull the wool over the eyes of her sheeplike followers, who will buy anything and everything. Amy is the best example of this of course.
Sorry to have gone on. I got some helpful information from this article ... it just really annoys me that we can see straight through chins and this latest attempt to mislead ...
www.sonsofasgard.co.uk
Firstly, the MLJ website is woefully inadequate. It ought to tell us exactly WHERE the pwoducts are made. This includes a correspondence address. There is not any address on her website.
Secondly, the website should tell us by WHOM the pwoducts are bein’ made; it doesn’t. I’m assuming this is like you might buy a bottle of wine from Aldi and it says in tiny print in the back ‘made for Aldi in X by so and so’.
If, as we tattlers suspect, the pwoducts are being’ made, in part by a wholesale company and in part by the LF company, it should therefore say. I just checked out LF company and there is no address on her website either - there is a box to email but this isn’t good enough. There are a whole load of other issues with Lisa’s website in my view, not least the fact that she seems to be attempting to pass off her luxury fragrances in their various forms, as well known brands. There’s not even an attempt to describe them as ‘mistaken for’ etc ... anyway, back to chins.
Chins and Bean took great pains to tell us that they had done their research over many munffs. I’m wondering what this involved, but I am guessing that this didn’t include receiving full training in respect of making products for use on bodies. No mention of that, hey. Well, as such, they would never have got insurance and so when she says pwoducts are fully insured, what she has done is purchisssss pwoducts that are made for her and they have done with the various certificates and insurance (more on that in a minute...). So, when the biznisssss is described as a little family business based in East Sussex, this is entirely misleading. It conjures up visions of the products being lovingly handmade in someone’s kitchen etc etc ... everyone loves a bit of handmade etc ... The correspondence address might be in East Sussex but I’m guessing the wholesalers isn’t. In addition, because the website is so poorly worded and says after all that ‘fully CLP compliant, assessed and insured products’; this doesn’t mean anything. This is deliberate in my view. It could have said ‘we make all our products at our home and we are fully insured etc...’ but the way it’s worded, quite deliberately doesn’t refer to who is doing the doing, or where the doing is being done. It’s depersonalised and meaningless.
The next thing I’ve noticed is that she calls the pwoducts ‘clp compliant’ - this refers to the labeling and thefact that if a bath or body care product has a hazardous substance in (one that could cause an allergy etc) then it has to be listed on the product itself. It’s hard to see the back of the pwoducts but they don’t appear to have any label on save for the MLJ logo.
I then ask, what’s all this ‘testing’ of pwoducts about? The other day chins showed us three body creams that she was testing to make sure she came up with the right formula and the one she was using was a bit greasy. This is just nonsense, designed once again to mislead, suggesting that she herself is actively having an input into the ingredients and the ratios of the said ingredients. She has no training whatsoever in such matters and therefore it’s absolutely inconceivable that she would be suggesting to the wholesaler manufacturers what proportions of ingredients to include etc, because how would they ever be able to get insurance in this case?
So, it’s really clear that chins is more accurately to be described as a distributor of mass produced, wholesale products, the makeup and compilation of which, she has absolutely no input into and, we know not from where these pwoducts originate and who on earth makes them, except for the illusive ‘team of ladies’. This probably refers to a machine somewhere, but the way it is worded and the way she has spoken of it, leads the unsuspecting follower that chins is ringing up saying: ‘Margaret, this one lacked a little patchouli, and can we up the emollient content please...’ . And this is not acceptable. It’s entirely misleading snd an attempt to pull the wool over the eyes of her sheeplike followers, who will buy anything and everything. Amy is the best example of this of course.
Sorry to have gone on. I got some helpful information from this article ... it just really annoys me that we can see straight through chins and this latest attempt to mislead ...
Creating Handmade Products & The Law...
Afternoon everyone We’d been discussing this topic / idea recently and we thought we would write a blog post (something that we keep saying we should do more of) about the subject. Obviously it’s extremely tough times out there at the moment, especially for small businesses. Even more so if you...
I can’t stop laughing. 
she needs to start marking the much love jane selling vlogs as ad's too, those furburger sponges are being "made by her team" and sold by her so get them marked as an AD Jane.....much love lexiloo
