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QueenBW

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According to Maddie, Holly being at the pumpkin farm was her just "hanging out" with Zoe... Right. Because I know I love to hang out with friends and carry their gifted pumpkins to their van while they just stand there and watch. Sure.

As someone who is naturally skinny and petite I get annoyed when people go on about how tiny she is but I’ve been attacked before for saying this by people who I’ve offended. obviously she is by no means fat but she isn’t “skinny” coming from a skinny person. She’s slim. You can’t see her bones, she doesn’t have a thigh gap, she has an arse and boobs, she has fat on her body. She fits in size 6 clothes. I struggle to fit in a size 2 and it’s just how I naturally am so I get so annoyed when she goes on about being tiny when she’s average height and pretty average weight
I'm sorry you're annoyed, but facts are facts even when they annoy us. Zoe IS skinny. She has no muscle tone at all but she's skinny. A UK size 6 IS skinny. The average UK woman is a size 16. So no, Zoe is not average weight. You're skinnier than her, congratulations, but that doesn't mean she's average.
 
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Elle

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Zoe Sugg #23 Fork in left hand, knife in right. Zoe's thread's a tragic sight
 
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Louise123

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Sorry this isn’t about Zoella but if it weren’t for her we wouldn’t be subjected to the pointlessness of poppy. But she’s so guilty of this influencer trick it makes me fucking mad. Nearly every day she’ll do some stories either showing her house or a selfie in the mirror, at this point there’s no declaration of any gifted affiliate links because it’s just a selfie. But then a few hours later she ALWAYS says she’s had soooo many messages asking where her clothes are from (fucking bullshit) and then she puts up all the affiliate/gifted links to what she’s wearing. Such a sneaky way of advertising affiliate links gifted stuff. I think all this is nothing more than a con and it pisses me off.
 
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mg95

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Alfie’s new video title “Picking up Zoe’s Ring (not engagement)” is honestly cruel at this point. He didn’t have to title it that or even let us know he was picking up the ring. She willingly lets him make a fool of her.
 
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sitkx

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You guys, it’s really not about the fact that they haven’t gotten engaged after 8 years. It’s about the fact that she WANTS to marry him, and he’s made it very clear to everyone that he doesn’t want to marry her. In plain terms, he’s stringing her along and most likely waiting for “the one”. He just doesn’t see his future with her. He shuts down every conversation about marriage and weddings, meanwhile she’s been hinting at engagement rings, weddings, babies, and everything else in between for YEARS. They have a massive miscommunication between them. She’s literally WAITING for him to propose, and he’s someone who doesn’t want to commit to her, and will in all likelihood never propose to her.

Zoe has already spent 8 years of her life (and we’ve only got one life!) with someone who is not meeting her goals and expectations for what she wants. So he’s getting EVERYTHING he wants, and she’s getting nothing she wants. She could’ve already fulfilled her life-long dream of marriage and children with someone else. That’s the way I see it.
 
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memoii11

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Absolutely!!! This year because our child is old enough to enjoy it we’ve gone and painted 3 pumpkins from the pumpkin patch... which also made me think while I was there imagine being 30 (I mean I am 30) but without any children, without any reason to decorate other than for the postman... I feel really sad for her I genuinely do.
You know you can have fun or do things you enjoy, without having children, right?! 🙄 Should people without children not decorate their house if they want to?
 
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eucalyptus

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hahahahaha i love the boring ass arguments we get into on this thread because zoe is so boring it's honestly wild
 
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Killawatt

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The scheme was put in place to avoid companies having to make employees redundant, the government offered the help to STRUGGLING companies to minimise unemployment.

If your brand is online and you’re still making hundreds of thousands, you are not struggling. You do not need the taxpayers money. There’s no other way to look at it.
 
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Elessar

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Exactly! Think they're getting a bad wrap about all this.
The amount those two have probably paid in tax why shouldn't they take from the furlough scheme? They're not running a charity!!
I can’t believe people are defending this.

The fact that other businesses have taken advantage of this scheme doesn’t make it morally right or acceptable for Zoe and Alfie to do so.

No they’re not running a charity, they are running a profitable business which has been unaffected by the CV situation, and therefore has no need for the furlough scheme. Holly could have been deployed into other duties (it’s not as if what she was doing was arguably essential, or particularly specialist anyway) and the business should have kept paying her.

People are missing the point that this is not ‘free’ money they were taking. It’s going to come out of all of our pockets in tax for years to come. And that will hit folk like us a lot harder than millionaires with clever accountants to funnel their money through in ways to minimise the tax they’ll pay.

It’s just greed, plain and simple. What do either of them ever do to give anything back? It’s all take take take, and yes that might be technically allowed, but is it morally right? No, and I’m glad they’ve been called out on it.
 
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Chilli pepper 19

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Exactly! Think they're getting a bad wrap about all this.
The amount those two have probably paid in tax why shouldn't they take from the furlough scheme? They're not running a charity!!
I'm sorry but I have to disagree with you on this. Yes they pay a lot of tax but as a country, we are going to be heading into a financial depression which will hit everyone hard. If they had a workforce of 100s I'd say yes fair enough, but they are both millionaires who posted between them what I think is 42 posts of advertising. Its,hard to always tell as Zoe tries to hide using the word add or showing she's been paid and some are more than one for a product, so might not have had £20k each post. But even if they both only got paid for half of them, they both made £400k in lockdown on Instagram posts alone (not including stories).

Yes,they played the system which a lot of other companies did.but morally she's disgusting and its no wonder she's being quiet about it. As someone who's job is under threat, I'm thrilled my taxes has been supporting her greed.
 
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palmer

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"According to an insider, Holly's role within [Zoella's] team is to take care of tasks such as organising parties and events for Zoella and her team as well as wrapping presents and taking Zoella's pet pug Nala out on walks. " LMAO

We all know Holly's job is bullshit but I can't believe they aren't even trying to at least make it sound a little more legitimate than that. Whoever this "insider" is, they are throwing massive shade. 😂

Also, aren't Zoe and Alfie low key embarrassed to be paying their friend such a low wage? Again, I know her job is BS but $25k a year? That's just ONE instagram ad for Zoe at best.
 
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Lola123

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Holly also lives in one of Alfie’s properties, so the money the government have been paying to her (obviously via the company) are going back into Alfie’s pockets!!!
 
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coconochanel

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Ha theres an article on the Daily Mail slating Zoe for putting Holly on furlough. It Said Holly is Zoe's 'girl friday' aka dogs body and wraps presents, organizes parties and walks the dog for £25k a year!
 
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SachaStark

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I fully DO NOT understand the whole, “I tried to pay but they wouldn’t let meee” thing.

I’ve had occasions where businesses have tried to allow me to have things/eat for free. My response has always been to 1) insist, and 2) get my card out and actively start paying. I don’t see how this possibly doesn’t work for her.

What she really means is, “I was fucking DELIGHTED to get all this stuff for free, as usual, and I give no fucks for the economic downturn as the result of a PANDEMIC.”
 
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