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scrantonstrangler

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So now 4 Radfords have left home and seemingly all left on bad terms with their parents- Chris after a fight with Noel, Chloe after an alleged fight with Sue, now Millie, and I wouldn't be shocked if Sophie had a falling out at some point too. That tells us everything we need to know about their parenting.

Thread title suggestion: Radfords are escaping one by one, including Millie and her secret son
 
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bagpuss17278

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Thread suggestion: Millie is pregnant and Sue has got the hump, waited until they were on holiday to show her baby bump
 
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HuncaMunca

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I’m not a fan of Millie, however my mum is a controlling cow who always used to shout that I’d need her more than she’d need me so I packed up and moved out. When I got married she said it wouldn’t last, when I had kids she said they wouldn’t amount to anything. I‘ve been married 28yrs, my kids are in their dream jobs, both own houses and are doing really well for themselves, so I wish Millie all the luck in the world. I hope she knuckles down and proves everyone, especially Sue, wrong. Also, it would be great if she could spill some tea.
 
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Eye_Spy

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When I first saw them on 15 kids and counting, they came across as being a couple who just loved having a lot of children….but now they come across as negligent, everything, including having more babies, seems to be for the freebies, photo opportunity and their media profile. They’ve made enough money out of the situation, and if they struggle emotionally with the idea of not having further babies….they can afford to pay for a therapist to resolve that for them.

I would not be surprised if Daniel did hit his girlfriend. Not that I think he is a violent man, but because his one ambition (to join the RAF) was cruelly played out on tv, with his mother announcing after that he had then failed to complete the basic training. Everywhere goes in Morcambe he is likely asked how he is getting on in the RAF, and he has to tell people that actually he is working at the bakery and still in a small bedroom in the basement. Daniel doesn’t clamour to be on camera in the vlogs…he shows no interest, yet his storey was a major part of the c5 series . Probably because he was the only member of the family doing something that would look positive to the public perception, rather than simply spending money and having babies under the pretence of the magic pie shop funding it all…it was a useful distraction from that to fill airtime. He was being used.

For a young male, having his dreams quashed is bad enough, but to have it done publicly could be very damaging. Add to this, his parents barely have time to discuss it with him, or to help him find alternative ambitions…it was just straight back into working in the type of job he was wanting to escape being permanently tied to. There could be a lot of pent up frustration that is coming out in abuse, he can’t shout at his parents, in case his siblings turn on him as a result.

Same with Millie, who appears outspoken, but remember that she is not in charge of the filming and editing. How much has she been told NOT to say, how many opportunities for her to be shown directly caring for her daughter when most of the family are at work or school have been overlooked in order to film family days out…where helpful siblings giver her a break by holding the baby. The way she is made to look, isn’t necessarily the true representation of how she is as a mother, just because she is mouthy, it means she enjoys to be on camera, but it doesn’t mean that she is able to say whatever she feels.

Same with some of the other teens, the older boys who don’t want to be in the vlogs…their friends still can view them and the majority of Morecambe know who they are and some of the fine details of their family setup (such as Noel’s statutory rape). How much care is given to protecting these boys from the impact of their family’s local infamousy?

No care at all that I can see, now that more of their kids will be reaching adulthood, the impact of growing up on tv/YouTube, without proper emotional support to deal with the negative side of it…the more social/behavioural problems these young adults will have.
 
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babybelle

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Poor Tillie is sat in the back of the car looking distraught at the thought of another operation, and what does her bitch of a mother do? Whip out the camera and tell the world all about it. How about chatting to your Daughter about how she feels about it instead of recording it and putting it on YouTube for the world to see. So bloody selfish, anything to make a couple of quid.
 
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Tilly Kister

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I can also see another angle on the underage sex issue. It leaves Noel permanently at risk of public and detailed accusations from Sue over his conduct at age 18, should he decide to split up with her. She holds the upper hand at all times. I’m not doubting that his behaviour was inappropriate and illegal, but without knowing the 2 families at the time, and how they interacted, I reserve judgement as Sue has not stating any suffering and gives the impression of being happy with her past. Did their parents for example know about the relationship, was it made clear to Noel at the time how inappropriate it was, how much effort did either parents make to stop them being in contact? If their parents knew and didn’t react much to the age gap issue or try to stop them, at the time Noel may not have understood how wrong it was. The was before the internet and before teenagers could easily check on legal issues such as when it goes form underage sex to statutory rape, where teenagers mostly just had their parents and friends for reference. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if the first pregnancy was intentional on Sue’s part, the desperation for babies could have started that young. Noel was the legal adult and should have been the one to make the decision not to have sex based on the age gap, but as for who was applying m the pressure to do so…it would not surprise me at all if Sue was already obsessed with pregnancy babies at that time and was seeing Noel as her route to making it happen. However it started, if they were to split up, and Sue were to tell tales, whether the full truth, held truths or exaggeration, or outright lies….because she was a child at the time,the public perception would automatically to be to believe what she says and vilify Noel. She could go from dedicated wife to sexual abuse claimant overnight and the media and public would not question it because the age gap would be taken as the evidence that ‘proves’ all associated claims.

I read somewhere before, possibly here, that Sue was posting a few years ago that Noel would be out a lot at the pub and it sounded like he might be cheating or wanting to leave her. I’m wondering if he wanted to, but couldn’t, because of how she reacts when feeling spiteful and knows how much she could damage him. If she wanted she could even go to the police about the statutory rape, and Noel would probably have the fear of prison even if no charges were brought, the fear of it would be enough to keep him in line. Sue holds all the power, and she knows it.

Are you honestly trying to portray Noel as the real victim in all of this? He was lured into having sex with a child he had known since she was 7? That she was a plotty little slag who took advantage of him and now he's trapped? Because the poor lamb couldn't possibly, way back in the dark ages of the 1980s when it happened, have been reasonably expected to understand that a 13 year old wasn't a suitable sexual partner?

Really?

Noel was and still is a sexual predator. He abused a child. He impregnated her so many times he might as well have installed a revolving door in her uterus. He stole her childhood, her adolescence and her entire life from her.

If you want to know what made Sue the narrow, ignorant, nasty bltch we all love to hate, you have no further to look that that animal you call "the more responsible parent" and seem to pity because one day she might feel compelled to tell the whole ugly truth of how he abused and groomed her and trapped her in a baby making cult of his own design.

I am 2 years older than Sue. I remember what we knew and didn't know very well and believe me, we knew that 18 year olds having sex with 13 year olds was not just illegal but amoral and unforgivable. If one of them had knocked me up at 13 my father and brothers would have cut his nonceydlck off and shoved it up his arse.

Sue was failed and betrayed by every adult in her life and now she's a train wreck with no idea how to express or receive real love. She sees herself as a uterus with no other purpose than to reproduce continually because that is what Noel showed her she should be. That's what he taught her made her worthy of being loved by him. And being loved by him was all she ever had to call her own.
That's what happened.

Sue's a shit mother and a nasty bitch but Noel is vermin.
 
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Eye_Spy

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Why are people not questioning in the comments as to why they need to buy new decorations every year? People are stupid.

How many videos of kids opening predictable plastic tat can one audience watch? It was ok to begin with, but when there isn’t much else going on, it just makes them look very materialistic and unimaginative.

Nobody in that house seems to have any different personal interests (except maybe max, who enjoys science). It’s all generic fashionable plastic toys for younger kids, clothes/makeup for for older girls, and clothes/gaming for the older boys, plus the standard stuff like scooters, bikes and football.

There’s a real lack of individualism and personality in the kids. I thought at first that Archie might be different (with his love of wearing girl’s clothing), but even that I now just think was because he has no bother’s near his age so is around his similar age sisters mostly so picks up their clothes. Plus possibly there are more comments from Sue about how cute the girls look in their outfits, so it could have been an attempt to tap in on that attention.

Maybe I am on the wrong track, but with so many kids, I’d expect to see lots of different preferences and interests. The swimmer, the tennis player, the one who goes to drama clubs, the girl guide, the one who sits on their own doing puzzle books, the one who has a big career ambitions, the one who always has their head in a book, the one who is involved in the school student leadership team, the one who has joined the army cadets.

There seems to be literally nothing unique about each child. They are just being born to be materialistic girls who are destined to aim to become mothers themselves, and lazy boys without much ambition with gaming habits. Chloe is the only one who partially broke the mould with not wanting kids at a young age, but even her career ambitions were predictable, the makeup following on from the ‘girl’ presents and activities, and the pie factory out of necessity. I get the impression that those of the kids who end up at the pie factory don’t have any genuine love of catering, it’s just a convenient to be able to get a job without an interview or experience.

It was apparently Chloe who expanded the business online, but we never see any of the workings of that. Showing her interest and her determination in getting that working could have made a good vlog. Also the running of the bakery, not just a tour or briefly showing a pie made…but the shop and customer interaction, the organising, ordering, who does what. How they actually work together as a family and are there also non-related employees. What about the older kids, where are the conversations about their futures, decisions on whether they should take A-levels etc. We see nothing of any value or importance in the vlogs. No information on budgeting for a large family, no information on keeping their impact on the world around them of being such a different to an average families to a minimum (such as recycling and careful purchasing, and things like ensuring their large group doesn’t overtake and stop other members of the public being able to enjoy being in that same location - the kids haven’t been taught any consideration). We don’t see kids doing any household chores or be rewarded for good behaviour or see educational, sports achievements, interview successes being celebrated.

There are plenty of interesting things to vlog, such as showing people actually achieving things, yet they just show us paper being ripped off plastic toys and then showing off all the things they get for free such as the Alton towers passes. They haven’t even really shown that particularly well, if the purpose is to advertise it as an attraction.

With them advertising things, same as with some other influencers who are just ‘grabby’ and not humble…I’m actually more inclined NOT to use the thing they advertise on principle. If they for example are getting very expensive passes for Alton Towers for free, totalling thousands for such a large family, with little to zero appreciation shown for how much that is worth…then why the hell should I want to pay full price for such a pass myself? The price customers pay covers many other costs as well as the staff and ride maintenance on the day of entry, so including all their advertising and Freebies they give out. So why should my pass be more expensive to cover the costs the business has spent on these ungrateful gits?

Anyone funding this family, unless it is for essentials to directly improve the children’s education or basic nutrition, so to pull them upwards from being disadvantaged by the bad parenting…doesn’t get my money.

Think about the message the companies are sending to both the viewers, but more importantly the Radford children. They are being shown that it’s not hard work and perseverance that gets you nice things in life…it’s have a large, selfish and careless family. They are growing up with a distorted view of success, which they are unlikely to be able to replicate themselves. Maybe this is what Millie is now starting to see, that being part of a big family is just a fact of circumstance as a child, it’s not a commercial enterprise and when treated as one, at some point the children will start to unravel when they find it’s not sustainable as long term lifestyle. At some point the kids will grow up and the audience and advertisers will lose interest, something Sue in particular will struggle with. She needs another baby, not to complete her family, but to keep her name in the papers.
 
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spilleroftea

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It’s like this…
Millies Pregnant, it’s a boy!
Sues been trying, possibly had a miscarriage but she’s 46! She’s been resentful towards Millie. I also think it being a boy, Sue is more resentful, she did the same to me, she will be over the moon about this one!!
Chris and Nicole came to stay, anyone who had seen them online can see they are not the best turned out family. So because of filming did Sue help herself to clothes for the baby from millies room? Millie had every right to be pissed off.
That spurred off the argument the day before /of the christening, Millie didn’t attend. That day Millie obviously was messaging a sibling, Luke is my guess and they showed Sue. Sue took a pic, was mixed in with the christening pics and she posted it accident or not!
 
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Why the big secret about where they’re going? Does she think she’s gonna get papped at the airport 😂😂😂
Just do it hun. Have your holiday, buy a load of tacky shit, take videos of you all eating and then come home and show us your massive washing pile. We know the drill.
 
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kat101

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Sophie was writing about a 13 year involved in a shooting in Morcombe....she wrote "when I was 13 I was climbing trees...."

Err....no....you were taking care of multiple brothers and sisters and being groomed for a life of bringing up children....

Your mum at 13? Was being groomed by noel and pregnant 🙈

I don't think a radford child knows what a tree is unless it's a singing lump of plastic and says "vtech" on it 🙈
 
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scrantonstrangler

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Remember in one of the old specials one of the boys said "We'll always be known to them, we'll always be known as their children"? That's not a normal family. Your older children aren't just "known as your children" to you, they're still your children who you love with every fiber of your being and care for even if they're out of your home and you've got younger ones still at home. They're not bloody acquaintances who happened to grow inside of you, they're your BABIES even when they're grown up and having babies of their own.

It's proof that they're just a number to S&N and they know it. They're still one of their children, they're still listed in the countdown of kids and may still live at home to keep up the numbers. But once they no longer rely on Sue it's like they're not her children anymore. Imagine being a teenager and knowing that you became useless when you were no longer in nappies, you're essentially her ex-child, just one of many. Teenagers still need dads and mums, they need love and support and care, but not in the Radford house, not unless you've got something to bring in views like an injury or teen pregnancy. Once you can form your own opinions you're merely competition or unpaid labour.

That's why having a huge family is so easy for them. Because they may have created 22 people but they only care for a few of them. Sorry for the rant but it pisses me off that they get so much praise for the absolute bare minimum when every day I meet hard-working parents or people who desperately want to be parents.
 
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babybelle

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What I don't get with regards to the food portions, is Noel is always saying the kids are raiding the snacks. Maybe they are raiding the snacks because they are hungry. How could you as a parent, sit next to your child with a plate filled with food and your child with 1 slice of turkey, 1 potato, a couple of carrots and some gravy? How could you cook yourselves a huge breakfast then when your child asks for some, you say no and give them 1 slice of toast? How can you on valentines day sit in the kitchen eating a massive board of cheeses, meats, fruit and crackers, when you said the kids had eaten earlier, yet the kids come in asking if they can have some cos they are hungry? I don't understand how they can buy designer clothes, cars, spend money like water, yet won't allow your children seconds of a meal when clearly they are hungry. I remember Sue and Noel going out on a date night, they went to a pub and the table was filled with pints, cocktails and vodkas and they put the photo on Facebook with the caption out out, yes they are all mine! Pure greediness.
 
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Shinealight

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What really pisses me off is the constant "we don't claim benefits" "everything we earn comes from the pie business" so, they do the TV shows for free? They get no payments from YouTube? Pull the other one, it's got bells on it. Noel is never at the pie shop, he's always with Sue because she can't manage the kids by herself. They still say they are relatable but relatable to who? Not your average family they aren't.
The pies that lot really specialise in are called porky pies!
 
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Kingbin

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So the cult have fled the country and Millie has posted a pic of her bump.

Happy holidays Sue!!!! 😂😂😂
 
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