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callurdadurinacult

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I just wanted to express my gratitude for these threads. I came to Tattle on a whim when an IG account I follow was apparently being talked about. Never found mention of her, but I did find these GC threads and I've been catching up on almost all of them for the last week or so.

Last fall, my 15 yo son told us he was trans and you could have knocked me over with a feather. He's NEVER given us any indication of that, and I've been very open about that kind of thing practically his whole life. He had long hair until he was 4, grew it long again a few years ago, cut it all off and now he's growing it out again, but that's truly the most "feminine" thing about him. We always let him play with whatever type of toys he wanted, dress up however he wanted, etc. If he'd told me he was gay or even NB, I would've been much less surprised, but this blew his father and I away. There was ZERO indication of GD throughout his life.

We're both very left-leaning, been participants in the Woke Olympics in years past, swallowed all the propaganda hook line and sinker in the name of being a good person, but his announcement just felt WRONG somehow. After some long talks and lots of tears, it seems like the likeliest conclusion is he was influenced by a friend of his who was a girl, then MiF, and now NB. He's on the autism spectrum and has a problem with hyperfixation, so I think he probably began reading about being trans and got a little obsessed. Everything he was saying sounded JUST LIKE a script he'd seen online somewhere. I explained to him that at 15, it's very normal to feel confused about and a little grossed out by your developing body. I told him his dad and I had both been through the same thing, that I'd even experimented with self-harm because I hated myself at that age so much. I told him if he'd like to paint his nails or wear make up or borrow some of my clothes at home, he was welcome to, but there wasn't going to be any hormone treatments or surgery in his near future.

I tried to find a therapist who would help him tackle his underlying issues, because I believe this should be the basis of ALL trans treatment? The first one I spoke to literally made me feel like the world's worst mom for not immediately leaping to affirm his newfound identity because "this is who he is" and I would just need to accept it if I loved him. I never spoke to her again. In the course of reading and reading and READING to try and understand how this whole thing came out of nowhere, I came across ROGC and GC discourse and holy shit, did I peak. Unfortunately, my entire friend circle is super woke and I have never been able to talk about this with anyone other than my husband until now. I am 100% in support of treating everyone with dignity and respect, including those who are truly experiencing GD or those who just want to quietly live their lives as the opposite sex. But the pendulum has swung SO FAR that it feels like we're living in an alternate reality at this point. I am the same kind-hearted, generous, logical, giving, and respectful person I've always been, but if I were to try and have a rational discussion about the "trans trend," I would be labelled a TERF bitch and cancelled. It's madness.

Sorry for the book, but I am so happy to be able to get this off my chest in a relatively safe space! For the record, I love my child and would support him if he were truly trans. Since that brief episode, he hasn't talked about it again, although I've brought it up several times to see how he's doing. I told my husband he may revisit it once he gets older, and if he does, we'll tackle it then and love him regardless. I'm just so sick of seeing such a complex tangle of issues distilled into black and white identity politics.

(I haven't proofread this because I'm working, apologies for any typos!)
 
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Chani10

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The speed to change the names and everything is shocking. With Ellen/Elliot Page it was the same. Name changed on every movie and website in a few hours.
If only they were so fast deleting rape videos from porn websites and things like that...
 
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GladiatorReady

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Women freezing to death in menstruation huts in Nepal? Nah, that's not as bad.
Women being victims of genocidal rape? Nah, that's not as bad.
Women being imprisoned if they show their hair? Nah, that's not as bad.
Women being forced to undergo FGM? Nah, that's not as bad.
Girls being married at 8 years old and giving birth at 9? Nah, that's not as bad.
 
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Vanelope

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There are loads of these on tiktok which, I'm sure entirely co-incidentally, has the youngest, (and most easily influenced by peer pressure) demographic of all social media sites





Take a note of the bit he says at the end - that if a lesbian's refusal to have sex with him comes from being raped, that it is 'maybe forgivable', but it is still transphobic. With the implication that if you are homosexual and do not have past sexual trauma, refusing sex is not forgivable.
News flash - I can refuse sex with anyone - even my own husband (thank you R v R for making marital rape a crime in England in 1991!) so fuck off with your guilting women into sleeping with you. It didn’t work when you were incels in your mums basement and it doesn’t work now you have put on a dress and target lesbians.
 
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SqualorVictoria

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I'm not going to lie and say I think it's fantastic if men were dresses. For the most part I think they look ridiculous and while the examples of Bowie and Cobain wearing dresses are used, let's be honest that most men are not Bowie or Cobain and can't pull it off. However, if a man wants to wear a dress, it's no skin off my nose as long as he doesn't decide that's what makes him a woman
 
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petitspois

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A guy in work asked me why a women's award had been pulled by an organisation and I started to explain what's going on. Straight away, he replied 'you can't improve equality for one group by eroding another's' and I felt such a sense of relief. I'm sure the vast majority of people feel like this but are either unaware of what's going on or too scared to speak out for fear of being attacked or insulted.
 
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klarakluckbag

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Pretty much. And what lesbian could possibly refuse these cuties?
See, what I don't get is that if all trans women are women, and all of the "cuties" in the pic are lesbians, then why don't they sleep with each other? I mean, they're all very convincing as women 🙄 And it's not like a little bit of dick is going to put anyone off now, is it? Can't they just lie back and take it? Like a proper, non-transphobic lesbian is supposed to do?
 
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eyespybs123

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ALSO (since I'm in full rant mode), what is it with women, predominantly white, in their twenties, who consider themselves 'woke', who are so determined to suck up to trans people? My twitter's full today of this type of woman who tweet about 'sending love' to the trans community following the BBC article, especially to their 'trans sisters'. It's like they're all in a competition to 'out-woke' each other? Maybe it weirds me out so much because I fall into that demographic and maybe that would've once been me? But, for example, I saw someone tweet about transphobia following that article but also tweet the same day about women only gyms. Wow girl you're in for a nasty shock when you go to your woman only gym and blokes who self ID as women walk in, but hey, you can't question their gender because transphobia 💅💅💅
 
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HockyRorror

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I hate to be all “not like in my day” (I’m only in my 30s FFS) but does anybody else find that younger people and older people who seem to live their lives online are just so fucking humourless and uptight these days?
 
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weeweegie

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Re tunnocks. I have worked with them over the years through my workplace and can say they are a family run, very generous company who are happy to donate products and support the local community.

I know the person who would deal with donating products to events and can say hand on heart that she wouldn’t have the faintest idea about the LGB Alliance or any controversy donating some teacakes would have caused. It was not a political statement in any way whatsoever, this is a woman of a certain age like my mum. It is absolutely ludicrous that there’s backlash from the TRAs but hardly surprising. They are so self obsessed to think everything is about them.

I hope the wee wummin working at tunnocks isn’t getting any hate as she’ll not understand any of it. Hoping it pushes sales for tunnocks in general though, their products are fab and anyone in the Glasgow area will tell you how much they give back to the community.
 
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maytoseptember

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LOL, John Lewis have had to withdraw the baby drag queen advert because it’s been declared “potentially misleading”. In order words, a child wilfully trashing a house doesn’t count as “accidental damage”.

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Platformcrocs

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I'm so fucked off with the backlash to the BBC article. How on earth have we ended up here? Isn't it funny how the super woke blue hair brigade will believe anyone who experiences sexual harassment - until trans women are mentioned, in which case the lesbian women are DEFINITELY lying 🙄

Why can't they just shut the fuck up and actually listen to women for once? How is it transphobic for a lesbian woman to talk about what she's experienced? Sorry it doesn't tie in with the narrative on trans women just wanting to do their eyeliner and pee in peace. Just more proof to me that trans women will never be real women - look how nasty they turn when lesbian women reject them.
 
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It's very 1984 with the changing of historical documents to reflect falsehood.
I've said it before, I say it again. I cannot support an ideology that wants to rewrite history. It's not healthy. I will always respect people's chosen names and I'm a firm believer in anyone having the freedom to live how they wish (within the limits of the law, of course). But I cannot and will not pretend that Elliot Page was a man when he played Juno. I cannot pretend that a transwoman had the same experiences as me as a girl. Yes, everyone is unique, but ALL girls have experiences around getting their period, dealing with being sexualised by the world around them, the physical pain of your body developing. Boys' experiences are different. They are no less valid or important, but they are different.

Did EP deal with wet dreams? Inappropriate erections? Pressure to act masculine? I find it highly unlikely.
 
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katyazamo

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I'm bisexual and doubt I'd get with a trans woman. Trans women have immediately assumed that lesbian/bisexual women MUST be attracted to them. And sorry but I haven't met a trans woman in real life who I have found attractive. The entitlement is off the charts and I find it repulsive. I also don't want anything to do with AGP males who get off on wearing tights and talk about when they were "little girls" :sick:

Always find it funny that the likes of Ash "Woke As Hell" Sarkar compare trans women to women of colour, as if they are even slightly similar. Women of colour simply ARE women. Strange how she always lumps them with trans women. Trans women are biological men who have gone through surgeries and taken hormones to try and become a woman. That's the harsh reality.
 
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holliebollie

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I saw this on a FB page today (I always wonder if any of this thread are in the likes and comments on pages I like). My organisation didn’t notice ‘pronoun day’ thank god, but a few of them have them. If it does get discussed, I might do this with an anonymous email:

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NeverEnough

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I’m not really informed about this debate and I’m pretty much live and let live. But I did read that BBC article today. Can I just ask if I’m right in assuming the furore is because some Lesbian women are not accepting people with penises as lovers?

Because if so, that is mind bending! Is refusing to have sex with someone you aren’t attracted too now “abusive”?

Wow.
 
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Vanelope

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Cancelling tea cakes, games and books. Whereas actual women are being murdered, mostly by men. The more stupid stuff like this they do the more I hope people will get sick of it.
 
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