Susie Verrill #2 woke in the streets, racist in the tweets.

[Kisscub]

I blocked Susie a very long time ago after she ignored my pleas for her to take down a story of her and her husband pulling a face similar to someone with Cerebral Palsy (I’m sure you all know which face I mean. It’s very offensive, usually pulled when someone does something stupid, insinuating people with CP are stupid, which they’re not)

I agree with a poster upthread who said she sensed something unkind about her. Turns out we were right.

I try and cut people slack, I really do. I’ve made mistakes, I’m sure I’ll make more, and I’d hate to upset anyone. But I’ve never made a ‘mistake’ like those tweets. They are over a prolonged period of time, at an age when we all knew better. If they’re ‘jokes’, I’m not seeing the funny side.

Susie, I know you read Tattle and I don’t want to unblock you to tag you-
Having just sorted my deaf, dumb (the term is non-verbal) & partially sighted child at 2.30am, as a single parent carer ‘on benefits’ (I haven’t been on any documentaries yet) - I can conform it is pretty hard. But nowhere near as awful as having a heart like yours. She may never grow up, but at least she’ll never grow up to be an ableist, racist, fat shamer like you. We all knew better in 2012. There is no excuse.

 

[OhhBacon]

So there are now 2,840 guests.
While some of you are here to look at Susie‘s tweets you might want to open your eyes to other issues that are discussed here, rather than writing it off as a bunch or jealous bitches.

• Are you ok with joking about domestic violence?
• Children being naked in the bath and shared on line? or children on potties shared?
• Collecting PayPal donations for DV charities but not sharing any accounts about donations?
• Promoting Body Confidence and air brushing every photo?
• Not declaring adverts?
• Promoting small business but never buying anything from them?
• Promoting continuous spraying of a ridiculous amount of chemicals and encouraging people to stock pile them?
• Children having no privacy?

 

[poopypants]

The reason the influencers aren’t as fired up about this as they were about MOD is because Susie isn’t slagging them off, she’s slagging off black people and disabled kids who they really don’t give a fuck about. There are no sad crying white ladies in stories talking about how deeply she hurt them. So they don’t care.

Grim, but true.

 

[Allie101]

Do we need a new name for the next thread?

Susie's a racist now the plot thickens , meanwhile Greg is living with the chicken's.....

 

[OhhBacon]

Cigarettes and Calpol have called her out, but they always have to have a little dig about tattle.

When they call us ‘Those’ sites it is so arrogant. There are thousands, millions of influencers who aren’t talked about over here. Then there are influencers who are talked about on here, for good reasons.
Nobody can question influencers behaviour because they delete and block, but their behaviour can’t be untouchable.

Influencers commonly sharing their children in the bath, are none of them concerned about the plethora of naked children plastered across Instagram, how has that become acceptable?

An influencer is accepting monthly donations to her PayPal account and claiming it is being used to support victims of DV, she will not share accounts and deletes anyone who asks, how is it acceptable to accept charity donations but won’t declare where they go, is that ok?

A number of influencers have accepted free dogs from a puppy farm in Russia, is that ok?

Influencers not declaring #AF, or posting it in tiny letters so they get a cut of anything you buy off Amazon, in the middle of a pandemic when it was one of the only delivery options, is that ok?

Influencers having friends round, in their houses, during a pandemic...then quickly deleting the pictures without a mention of their mistakes?

The white middle-class identikit mums paraded out at events or on advertising campaigns have been called out here for ages, is the lack of representation outside of that bubble ok?

Influencers filming their children in distress, all their private moments...including filming their underwear drawer, is that ok?

If you are ok with all of that then I can see why tattle would frustrate you, but I don’t think we are the bitches!

*1635 Guests now who might want to have a think about the things we are discussing. Topics that will make some of you quite uncomfortable.

 

[Starsanddaggers]

I think we should stop talking about Sophie Verrill.

She's bravely spoken out despite not being able to because of a legal battle

Susie probably was a total cunt to her.

She hasn't said anything bad about ethnic minorities or disabled kids or poor people

She's a single working mum.
Unlike scrounging Susie .

 

[KiKiGreen]

That’s how you call someone out

 

[Hula-hoop]

 

[No_f_in_clue]

Thread suggestion: She hopes it'll blow over, or her wedding will be in Dover!

 

[AdoraDelano]

The house is never going to get skirting boards now.

 

[Starsanddaggers]

Hahahaha

starving black people are something to joke about......

 

[Allie101]

The more I think about it. The worse it is.
We're not talking about casual ingrained racism and prejudice (that is abhorrent and we must be rid of as society).
We're talking about years and years of extreme comments without any thought or love or kindness : for the poor, for the overweight, for the disabled children, for the people that Susie felt better than.
Why did Susie feel better than them? Because by society and their WHITE standard she was a: pretty/hot/attractive 25 year old.....

Now as a mother, with media training, with a "famous" partner and a big house, lots of disposable income she feels superior and like she should get away with her previous transgressions. Because she is elite.

The fact Gregory Rutherford in the midst of all the hurt and exposure is harping on about their lovely new chicks on their homestead , when we're in the middle of a global pandemic, with poor kids stuck in flats (the kind of kids 25 year old Susie condemned because she felt better than them) speaks volumes.

They may have money. They may have conventional "good" looks by a white middle class standard in 2020 . They may own trendy things.
But they have been shown for who they are and why they needed media training

 

[OhhBacon]

It is interesting that so many of them have seen the tweets but none of them read tattle.
Where are they finding these tweets?

It’s also interesting that they all ‘know’ tattle is a horrendous place but they haven’t been here or read anything here.

Currently there are 2,467 guests on this site...guess that answers my question.

Edit... 2670 guests now...stick around you might like it.

 

[susiebluesyy]

I know both SB and CaC are probably fundamentally well-intentioned, but they’re both so incredibly juvenile in how they engage with politics. (This is a side-point, not a defence of SV’s grim Twitter mouth-running).

We all have to start somewhere and some people take to the analysis side of things better than others, sure, but they absolutely exemplify what is wrong with Insta-activism. Just a paper-thin understanding of a given subject leapt upon out of sheer emotion or conformity, followed up with the inevitable woke-scolding that Instagram has turned into a weirdly pervasive form of female intrasexual competition. It’s fine to not know everything about a subject, but if you don’t, then accept that you don’t, and don’t turn gladiatorial and get pious about things that 5 minutes ago you knew bugger all about just because you’ve spent a couple of weeks “signposting” people to the same lists and accounts as 100 others have been doing. This is not useful activism, it’s just a tenuous upgrade of secondary school social climbing.

I know both SB and CaC are probably fundamentally well-intentioned, but they’re both so incredibly juvenile in how they engage with politics. (This is a side-point, not a defence of SV’s grim Twitter mouth-running).

We all have to start somewhere and some people take to the analysis side of things better than others, sure, but they absolutely exemplify what is wrong with Insta-activism. Just a paper-thin understanding of a given subject leapt upon out of sheer emotion or conformity, followed up with the inevitable woke-scolding that Instagram has turned into a weirdly pervasive form of female intrasexual competition. It’s fine to not know everything about a subject, but if you don’t, then accept that you don’t, and don’t turn gladiatorial and get pious about things that 5 minutes ago you knew bugger all about just because you’ve spent a couple of weeks “signposting” people to the same lists and accounts as 100 others have been doing. This is not useful activism, it’s just a tenuous upgrade of secondary school social climbing.

Hello! This is about me - I wanted to respond... and this is my first time on tattle so wasn't sure if I'm using the functionality correctly (apologies if not). I think your assessment of me probably has a lot of truth to it, and seeing it on paper has been a jolt to the system. I started my instagram and blog (which is now defunct due to lack of time!) to talk about having an invisible disability, and I had a lot of confidence in that because it's my daily life. I obviously don't know if you've followed me for a long time or not, so I don't know if you have seen much of that at all. I started chatting about politics at the last election and during the pandemic, and you're right, it's not my lane. I talked about it because I am interested in politics, I have always believed that everything is political, and I wanted to encourage people to engage in politics. I worry that people not engaging because they don't think they're experts can sometimes have the impact of people just ignoring it or feel overwhelmed. But I definitely take your point on board, and it's been a good for me to see how it has come across.

 

[OhhBacon]

The fact that she took the same approach she did with her old tweets in private with the mother of a disabled child (you’d think that would make someone humbler/more circumspect even if only out of social embarrassment, at the very least!) when it would have cost her absolutely nothing to do the right thing makes me a lot more dubious about her. Most people have an aversion to hurting someone’s feelings, and by the sounds of it this was not something where the hurt feelings were over something fundamentally benign. So it is troubling that SV’s instinct was to do nothing.

I really respect the posts you have made in this discussion, you have raised some interesting points. I really think that your point about Susie‘s instinct to do nothing is particularly of interest. (This is referring to the situation discussed about, not the tweets)

I don’t think Susie is alone in this instinct. There are multiple posts across the website where people have contacted influencers about posts they have made and the general response is block/delete. There appears to be an arrogance level based on followers that means these influencers are untouchable or unquestionable.

Pictures of children naked in the bath are posted regularly if questioned...block/delete.
One influencers children were apparently found on a porn site in their swimming costumes, someone contacted them...guess what? Block/delete and then she posted pictures that day in their swim suits.

There is an influencer accepting paypal payments that she claims she is using to fund work with DV victims, people have asked for a newsletter or information about where that money they have given goes...guess what...block/delete.

I agree with your comments earlier on about cancel culture, people do make mistakes and conversations about changing behaviour should happen, I understand your link to the olden days about people being put in the stocks and mocked however there are very few influencers who will ever accept they make mistakes.

They seem to be living on a level of self importance, where they can do no wrong and will be fluffed up their followers if any one dares question their behaviour. That can’t be good for society as a whole. A lot of people come to tattle who were originally fans of the people they now discuss, because when they questioned any behaviour they got deleted and then realised through this site they weren’t alone.

As soon as anyone on Social Media is questioned they simplify it down to ‘troll’.

There needs to be an understanding that asking questions about stories, posts, advice shared, adverts etc, questions that might be uncomfortable aren’t trolling. This discussion just isn’t happening in Instagram, actually it might be there probably are a small number of influencers who will have it but I just haven’t seem it.

I think the simplicity of the situation at the moment is you are either a fan or a troll has led to the cancel culture being more prominent. I should be able to follow someone on Instagram and ask them a question without being deleted, in the same way that they should be able to make a mistake without worrying about instant cancellation.

This leads to influencers who are nervous about being caught out. There is almost an unhealthy level of emotion on each side, and it does feel like sides when really there should be discussion happening somewhere in the middle.

I hope this makes sense and is obviously a wider discussion that just SV, I’d be interested in what you think.

*Id also be interested in what any of the 2170 guests think...I reckon there are a few influencers hiding in that number. You can stay anonymous but are welcome to join the debate.

 

[Willowtree]

 

[Meechny]

I'm a lurker but not a poster but was disgusted by her post and then what I found out when I read this and the other thread in more detail so sent the shots to regatta and got this. Small steps are what matters I guess!

 

[SockPuppet2020]

I really hope Candice doesn't comment on this, or feel she has to. It must be exhausting for her that yet another white influencer has been exposed as a bigot, with everybody in the wings waiting with baited breath for Candice or one of the other big woc influencers to go to town on her. I saw a comment about the fact that poc shouldn't have to 'wade through white tears' at the moment and it's absolutely correct - it's bad enough that they're having to watch videos of their brothers and sisters being murdered. The sheer volume of self pitying posts that centre themselves instead of boosting poc is infuriating. Get your selfies and your egotism out of the way and make room for the people you are supposed to be helping.

(Sorry went a bit off topic with that rant but it's been pissing me off this past week)

 

[Guineapigmom]

Result.

 

[Slip slip knit]

Fucking love kisscub, that woman is a super hero. If I’m ever having a hard day with my kids I honestly think of her and the amazing job she’s doing to raise Amy and she gives me strength