Jade Mitzi
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Or simply
Vonny Leclerc #3 - Did ye aye?
Vonny Leclerc #3 - Did ye aye?
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Veronicaaa
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The 'Caroline has Hands' sequel we never knew we needed, and probably don't deserveA rather amusing excuse for getting out of a job in the past (just remembered this one) was she said she had got her hand trapped in a meat grinder (as you do
ihadamoonring
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Agreed. Not everyone that’s in her life wants to be public with these sorts of things. As family I’m going to ask that we please refrain from speaking about the children. I’ve already stated the children and well looked after and it’s really inappropriate to be speaking about them on a gossip page. Also please don’t try and out people that want to remain anonymous. I’m happy enough for people to know I’m her sister but not everyone in her life wants to be outed. Let’s just keep this for amusement on the nonsense she does and how ridiculous her personas are. Nobody needs to know the entire ins and outs of our personal lives.
passthecanapes
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She's wafted in and out of the liberal Jewish community in Edinburgh for the past few years, so my first encounter with her was actually not via the media or anything but rather as the new goth-looking girl I saw at one of the events. Her face did ring a bell though, and when I was looking at a copy of The National a week later and saw her face on the strapline I realized who she was. I did wonder a bit at the time why she was there, but I figured she was maybe Jewish but didn't shout about it or getting married to someone and converting... while this sounds like a sexist assumption, the majority of converts to Judaism in liberal communities are women getting married. It's just a fact. Men are less common due to the fact that a certain famous Jewish operation is expected.
She did put in the occasional appearance at events I went to. I don't attend too often, but at a few times I was there and she was there, and then the whole Jewish thing appeared on social media.
There are a fair few people I knew of converting in the liberal community, however of course none of them would ever be called. That's what I said about the "practising Judaism for herself" bit. She does have some Jewish communal involvement, but is not Jewish. Someone in the process of converting can appear to be Jewish (i.e. reading Hebrew) but until they go through the final conversion rites isn't considered Jewish ritually by the community. And like I've said before, usually when a convert becomes officially Jewish it's celebrated by the community as a whole, but I can't recall any mention of it.
Like I've said: if she wants to practise Judaism as her religion quietly that's fine. But grandstanding "as a Jew" on social media? Not cool. Until she takes a dunk in the mikveh, as kosher as a pork sausage.
She did put in the occasional appearance at events I went to. I don't attend too often, but at a few times I was there and she was there, and then the whole Jewish thing appeared on social media.
She played Vashti, the first wife of King Ahaseureus in a Purimshpiel, which is a play commemorating the Jewish festival of Purim. I'm not going to go into the where and why of it all (hence the wiki links) but in the traditional story Vashti is banished for refusing to display herself for the King and his court's pleasure, and for this in Judaism is considered something of a feminist icon. She did indeed play Vashti in said play according to an email newsletter I got, but I didn't attend the purimshpiel. The "yeah Vashti is a feminist" could have happened, or couldn't have.
It depends on the community. The Orthodox community is much more tightly knit and doesn't have many (if any) members that aren't Jewish, but Vonny did befriend some people in the liberal community and thus was allowed to take part in the purimshpiel. Purimshpiels have a tradition of being a very silly and satirical play, so really it doesn't matter whether anyone is Jewish or not. What is restricted is doing things during the service such as carrying the Torah or being called up to do the prayers before the Torah is read (called an aliyah). I've seen her when I've gone to some services on and off over the past few years, but never ever being called up. These things are called mitzvot and considered an honour in a Jewish community.
There are a fair few people I knew of converting in the liberal community, however of course none of them would ever be called. That's what I said about the "practising Judaism for herself" bit. She does have some Jewish communal involvement, but is not Jewish. Someone in the process of converting can appear to be Jewish (i.e. reading Hebrew) but until they go through the final conversion rites isn't considered Jewish ritually by the community. And like I've said before, usually when a convert becomes officially Jewish it's celebrated by the community as a whole, but I can't recall any mention of it.
Like I've said: if she wants to practise Judaism as her religion quietly that's fine. But grandstanding "as a Jew" on social media? Not cool. Until she takes a dunk in the mikveh, as kosher as a pork sausage.
tippingpoint
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As someone with tiny eyes I’m affronted such a disingenuous person was gifted so much lid space. Enjoy your perfectly displayed wings ya fucking...liar woman.
Oh there's even worse than that, trust me, but I won't get in to them all.
She tried to get me charged for saying she wasn't Jewish on Twitter and it was actually going to be court until they realised I was her sister and telling the truth. She had implied I was a random lady giving her racial abuse online, so the police weren't best pleased about that with her wasting their time.
I'm sure there's other police incidents but none that I can think of right now.
A rather amusing excuse for getting out of a job in the past (just remembered this one) was she said she had got her hand trapped in a meat grinder (as you do ) and lost her hand. Most would fake a cold or something. I found out as I got a job at the same place and they asked me how she was after her horrific accident.
She tried to get me charged for saying she wasn't Jewish on Twitter and it was actually going to be court until they realised I was her sister and telling the truth. She had implied I was a random lady giving her racial abuse online, so the police weren't best pleased about that with her wasting their time.
I'm sure there's other police incidents but none that I can think of right now.
A rather amusing excuse for getting out of a job in the past (just remembered this one
) was she said she had got her hand trapped in a meat grinder (as you do ) and lost her hand. Most would fake a cold or something. I found out as I got a job at the same place and they asked me how she was after her horrific accident.I have no idea! I've never met him but had shitty messages from him in the past coming to her defence when I had outed her BS on Twitter.
They married after knowing each other less than a year so I'm sure she hid some of the crazy but he really must just be turning a blind eye or perhaps he's just as bad. I always wondered what her partners thought but maybe she hides posts from them?
A friend of mine actually grew up with him and he was known to be liar and fantasist then so maybe he's just as bad
Though her first bf (who she lied to pretending she was a dr, going as far as to buy scrubs and pretending to go to hospital everyday ((also claiming she was 26 when was in actual fact 17)) was told that her mum left her on a door step when she was a baby and she was brought up by grandparents. Imagine his dismay when they went to visit the grandparents and her mum showed up too
it all got worse from there really
They married after knowing each other less than a year so I'm sure she hid some of the crazy but he really must just be turning a blind eye or perhaps he's just as bad. I always wondered what her partners thought but maybe she hides posts from them?
A friend of mine actually grew up with him and he was known to be liar and fantasist then so maybe he's just as bad
Can confirm that none of it is. Literally none.
She lies to every partner of course, about why's she's estranged from the family etc, usually saying it's because they don't accept her aspergers or Judaism conversion.
Though her first bf (who she lied to pretending she was a dr, going as far as to buy scrubs and pretending to go to hospital everyday ((also claiming she was 26 when was in actual fact 17)) was told that her mum left her on a door step when she was a baby and she was brought up by grandparents. Imagine his dismay when they went to visit the grandparents and her mum showed up too
it all got worse from there really
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Cakemachine
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The reality is, she's good company. Vonny in real life is nothing like online Vonny. She's certainly not the pale-faced flawless made-up goddess she wants to project—she's entirely normal, she's not flawless, she gurns when she talks, she's awkward, she's self deprecating. And I mean that all in a good way. She's bright, she's funny, she's alright, and it's baffling that's not enough for her. So anyway you see her about socially, meet for group drinks a couple of times, shared interests, you know. Then the dramas begin. Then the tales that make no sense. Then the backtracking and the lies. You joke amongst your other pals about what she's said or done now, but you feel bad about it because that's a really shitty way to be friends with someone. So you distance yourself because it's not fair, delete her from social media, and then the slow realisation dawns that she's mentally ill and maybe you should have said or done something, but you're not really equipped to deal with it. But Scotland is small, and time and time again over the next decade she turns up wearing a new skin, and on every occasion you get less sympathetic and more pissed off with the lies. You anticipate some sort of comeuppance, but it never comes. It's to my shame that I'm even here, but that's how it is, and I'm sure it's a very common social trajectory.
Veronicaaa
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Listen, I feel bad for her children. I feel bad for anyone who's unlucky enough to know and / or be related to her. But what are we meant to do? Just keep silent while she's constantly misrepresenting who she is, not only on her twitter feed and insta but inside the pages of newspapers and on the telly and radio? While she's selling stories about how one of her kids almost died, complete with emergency room selfies? While she's telling us she recovered from ME and recommending hugely expensive and completely nonsense Lightning Process in the Guardian? While she's taking in respected journalists from America to punt herself as the face of the longest COVID ever? While she's harvesting sensitive personal information about sexual assaults from her unwitting followers? I haven't even gotten into the trail of dead kittens she leaves in her wake, complete with Munchie-style medical 'interventions' including sticking little bits of plastic into the most recent dying kitten's mouth. We're all just to allow her to shit on anyone and everyone who has the misfortune to cross her path, to the point of trying to take her own sister to court for questioning her 'reality'? Her fanaticism has been the biggest open secret on the twitter backchannels for years now and yet she was still getting commissions which furthered her career, so it's clear the powers-that-be are (or were) in the dark about what they were dealing with. And we're meant to just wilfully ignore it and allow her to carry on as she was? That does no one any favours, least of all her. Least of all, her children.
tippingpoint
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Imagine telling people you lost your hand then years down the line casual as you like setting up an Instagram dedicated to you lifting “heavy things” with your two hands it’s amazing 
The Secret Life of Vonny Mitty should be next thread title
In a meat grinder too A FUCKING MEAT GRINDER. Ok Lars Vonny Trier
The Secret Life of Vonny Mitty should be next thread title
In a meat grinder too A FUCKING MEAT GRINDER. Ok Lars Vonny Trier
tippingpoint
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I’m a manager, I’m sure there will be loads on here too. Such a broad term
anyway if I ever leave my job I won’t say it was a pleasure to MANAGE them (it fucking isn’t). I’ll say it was a pleasure to WORK with them (it fucking isn’t)Really tiny gripe but it just seems a bit as my mother would say “The big I am”
passthecanapes
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Started out as a Catholic, became an atheist raising her kids as "godless heathens" and stated that "organised religion is out of step with modern Scotland and in time for when antisemitism was being discussed nationally wrote about the travails of being a Jew in 2019 Britain. It's mince.
Conversion to Judaism via the progressive movements takes around 18 months. You have to go through the entire year of the Jewish calendar and study Hebrew, learn about all the facets of Jewish life in classes and then go on to have an interview with the Beit Din (religious court of three rabbis) of the movement, get circumcised if you're a man and go to the mikveh (ritual bath) to complete a rite known as tevilah (ritual immersion). That's pretty intense, and for the Orthodox you also have to live with a Jewish family in Golders Green to learn about being Jewish and commit to all 613 commandments in the Bible as well.
To go from "godless heathen" to a Jew in one year doesn't happen. The only way it could have happened is if her father happened to be Jewish and the Liberal Judaism movement who accept patrilineal descent (if the child is raised as Jewish) had issued her a status certificate stating she is Jewish. Even that involves paperwork and study and interviews, so there's just no real pathway for her to go overnight to being considered a Jew by any Jewish movement. And she's never indicated being raised as Jewish and a daughter of a Jewish father raised as Catholic would be a bit of a problem that would require more study to fix before she was regarded as Jewish.
After reading the first thread I searched all over the place for if she'd written an article in between about her deciding to begin the process to convert to Judaism. That would have explained some of this, although I'd call it poor form to write about being Jewish before finishing the conversion process. At least then it would have some explanation, but no, she's just *puff* insta-Jew with no history. A "why I'm converting to Judaism" article, which many writers similar to her have done, would at least indicate sincere intent but it just looks like as stated before it's for the kudos and little else because of the convenient whiplash in belief systems.
Or perhaps she's just a Cameron Diaz mega-fan...
I just decided to address the issue again as I'm Jewish and it pisses me off that someone's swanning around writing about our experience and our community as if she were one of us when it's obvious upon closer inspection that she's not. It may be a game to her, but to those of us who are actually Jewish claiming you are when you aren't is an insult.
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Elle__Dee
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Compiling a list of the many Vonnys.
Thread title by @hippitybrode
Expertly done by @Thatmoonringisdanielles.
Mod edit: Please make sure to report on the previous thread when a new one is made and linked, so that the old one can be closed.
Previous thread: https://tattle.life/threads/vonny-leclerc.11419/
Thread title by @hippitybrode
Expertly done by @Thatmoonringisdanielles.
Mod edit: Please make sure to report on the previous thread when a new one is made and linked, so that the old one can be closed.
Previous thread: https://tattle.life/threads/vonny-leclerc.11419/
- Msc in Forestry Vonny
- Lawyer Vonny
- Vegan Vonny
- Digital Vonny
- Generic Feminist Vonny
- Estranged Vonny
- Advocate for Trans People Vonny
- Chef Vonny
- Riot-Girl Vonny
- Rollerderby Vonny a la the Hidden Lives documentary she did for BBC Scotland, which was
kind ofironic for someone who posts constantly on social media. - Vonny Moyes Vonny
- Vonny Leclerc Vonny
- Vonny Laing-Leclerc Vonny
- Academia Vonny
- BFF of Dr Fern Riddel Vonny
- Visiting Lecturer at Stirling Vonny
- Researching media inequalities Vonny
- Sex worker Vonny
- Stalking victim Vonny
- Revenge porn Vonny
- Nordic Model Now! Vonny
- TERF Vonny
- Non-binary Vonny
- Goth Vonny
- Tarot reader Vonny
- Goth wedding Vonny
- Cat Vonny
- Graveyard Vonny
- Jewish Vonny
- Shul Vonny
- Esther Vonny
- Menorah Vonny
- Challah Vonny
- Rabbi Danya Ruttenberg Vonny
- Hebrew blessings Vonny
- Autistic Vonny
- BBC Vonny
- COVID Vonny
- COVID PTSD Vonny
- Marie Colvin Vonny
- Long COVID Vonny
- 1950s Vonny
- Dashund Vonny
- Twin set and pearls Vonny
- Brompton Vonny
- French speaker Vonny
- Sobranies Vonny
- Pagan Vonny
- Tarot reader Vonny
- Witch trial Vonny
- Catholic Vonny
- Humanist Vonny
- Independence Vonny
- Columnist Vonny
- Trolled Vonny
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tippingpoint
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Being Vonny Malkovich
Thatmoonringisdanielles
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No idea who she is but searched for her and ended up here.
I agree with absolutely everything you have said and I think everything you have said makes you arseholes.
You are all motivated by boredom but somehow I’ve written a 500 word essay on a gossip site.
Ok!
I agree with absolutely everything you have said and I think everything you have said makes you arseholes.
You are all motivated by boredom but somehow I’ve written a 500 word essay on a gossip site.
Ok!
ihadamoonring
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I am and I’m not as tolerant to her nonsense as others may be. I also want my moon ring back
Was trying to find Vonny's twitter to see what she was making of current world events, and apparently its gone?
Anyway I found here, and just joined to say I went to Uni with her. I am happy to report she was an insufferable teachers pet that needed constant attention at all times, as you'd expect.
Anyway I found here, and just joined to say I went to Uni with her. I am happy to report she was an insufferable teachers pet that needed constant attention at all times, as you'd expect.
Thatmoonringisdanielles
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'the good lube' I am very relieved she has the full range of lubes, I imagine it makes it much easier to slip into different identities
AdoraDelano
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I'm reminded of this I saw on Twitter.
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Veronicaaa
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Never has my avatar seemed more aptThough her first bf (who she lied to pretending she was a dr, going as far as to buy scrubs and pretending to go to hospital everyday ((also claiming she was 26 when was in actual fact 17)) was told that her mum left her on a door step when she was a baby and she was brought up by grandparents. Imagine his dismay when they went to visit the grandparents and her mum showed up too
