Emily Clarkson (em_clarkson)

[cee-bee]

There’s something just so self indulgent about every aspect of Em Clarkson’s Instagram.

Em Clarkson has been born into wealth and influence. Her dad is famous with connections in the media world. Despite having zero qualifications or experience, she had two (poorly written, clichéd) books released in 2017 at the age of 23. That is insane. Many more talented, innovative and hard working people never get that sort of break. Em would have you believe that it’s all down to her personal attributes, but it’s not.

not only that, but she enjoys the privilege of being white and conventionally slim. She’s never been overweight for all her body positivity guff. She’s never endured long spells of ill health or mental health. Even if she did, her wealth would act as a huge buffer to that. She’s enjoyed the privilege of being in a stable relationship with a similarly privileged white male (and for those who are female and have had to experience long spells of being single - the world is not easy as a single female. We are constantly made to question our worth and value ourselves based on how men value us).

despite having almost everything literally handed to her - she’s never had to seriously tackle any health issues, any extreme weight or dietary issues, she’s never had to date. She’s never had to crawl her way up the ladder as a female in a male dominated work space. She’s never had to endure job interview after job interview and know she’s being overlooked because she wasn’t posh/white/male enough. She’s never had to struggle by in a rental property on minimal wage. And yeto despite having no experience in any of this, she hasn’t even studied it objectively - she sure has a lot of opinions on it all.

truth is, Em is boring AF. Life has been one big gift for her and good for her. But what irritates me is that she has zero humility about it and uses her privilege to position herself at the forefront of issues she has zero understand of. She has to post about her “crippling insecurity” because she has nothing else interesting to say and she knows it will strike a cord. Even at her heaviest Em was acceptably slim.
i don’t want to disparage the fact that it’s hard being insecure about our bodies as women, and we are subject to scrutiny in a way men aren’t.

but geez… it’s all so boring, overdone and not especially effective when you’re slim the way Em
Is.

 

[barryjones]

Yeah ouch. She looks burned to fuck, not a good look.

Also I’m all for body positivity but it’s a lot easier to ‘accept’ your body when you’re slim, white, rich, able bodied and have a body type that is typically sought after, so to speak.
Like she contorts herself to create those rolls and it does my head in. Stop creating problems that you can yell at us to just ‘love yourself!!’ about.

 

[Pollyanna263]

slightly off topic but…

the world of influencing is dominated by privileged, (predominately white) wealthy people. For a myriad of reasons I suspect, but the fact the media is dominated by the same demographic is one factor. Societal snobbery is another. We prefer to listen to middle class people with home county accents as the standard for voices of authority and intelligence.

there are a few exceptions perhaps; the likes of Mrs Hinch. Mrs Hinch is from a fairly working class/lower middle class background. And she definitely has experience in body/weight issues. I’m not a fan by any stretch but she is a rarer example of someone who has become a successful influencer and has had a working class background. But the serious body positivity stuff etc. isn’t an issue she really (to my knowledge) has waded in to much or led from the front. She mostly sticks to her interiors and fairly superficial stuff. And my personal belief is that it’s because 1. She just doesn’t have the confidence to do it as someone who has genuinely struggled with it and 2. Her voice (and others like hers) are drowned out by the likes of Em, Alex, Danae. And perhaps 3. Are we, as a society - prepared to seriously listen to Mrs Hinch and others like her? Are we prepared to take regional accents seriously? Are we prepared to critically assess someone’s credentials as opposed to how well they present themselves? The ugly truth is I think as a whole - we aren’t. But maybe we should be.

The more confident, self assured, middle class who have grown up watching their peers receive accolades publicly and their voices being amplified in the way the working class/ethnic minorities haven’t, don’t struggle the same way and they benefit from the knowledge they’ll be taken seriously. Em can open her insta account and talk about serous issues because she comes from a privileged background and it’s always been that way for her.

which is just one reason why the likes of Em irritates me so much. She drowns out the voices of other people; people with lived experiences, people who are better informed, but less well connected. Less listened to. Less confident.

I couldn’t read and not reply to this…

Mrs Hinch doesn’t have the same privilege as Clarkson in terms of a famous dad, but she’s certainly not an accidental influencer. The whole thing was meticulously planned. She and her husband were both in sales, she tried a few different types of account at the start, and they actively approached Gleam. The person she shows on her insta is a character she plays.

Her body image issues are so sad, frankly it’s terrifying, and she’s an awful awful role model for young women. She edits her body, alters every single part of her, even when advertising make up and clothes. It’s dangerous and she’s never called out on it because she portrays this ‘accidentally famous, don’t know how it happened to little old me, still learning this world’ image.

Sorry to derail. But there aren’t over 500 Hinch threads for no reason.

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[jjeett]

Actually you know what I just saw this and it's pissed me right off. Fuck off. Every single person you argued with had more intellectual arguments than what you're giving credit for. You just know there's minimal logic behind your argument so you have to be petty about it.

Edit: Want to add that everyone she's disagreeing with are legitimate followers of hers. It's not like the IG algorithm has blasted her on the wrong side of IG where all the mysogynistic, shitty men are. Like these are people that up until now have been fully with her. Surely that should make her question herself.

 

[cee-bee]

There have been so many really thought provoking, insightful comments under the Nelly post. All Alex and Em have done is invalidate them because they don’t align with their shallow, faux-feminist, uneducated drivel.

the underwear, as someone pointed out, caters to the male gaze.

The sphere of body inclusivity and positivity has been co-opened by largely white, middle class women with bodies that are acceptably attractive. nelly still has a slim, attractive figure.

Nelly walking around London isn’t appropriate for that reason. It isn’t empowering because she’s only able to do it because her body and her lingerie cater to the male gaze and ultimately, misogynistic ideals.

there’s nothing wrong with wanting your children to not have to see a woman’s body if it’s being sexualised. In fact I’d argue it’s healthier for children to be protected from sexualised female bodies since women’s bodies are overly sexualised and I wouldn’t want my child to internalise that view. When a woman’s body is dressed in lingerie, it is ultimately being sexualised for the male gaze.

em’s recent post in a bikini, making a jab at women wanting to protect children from sexualised female bodies, doesn’t make sense. Because bikinis aren’t sexualised in the same context that lingerie is. The whole concept of that type of underwear is that it’s sexual and to be worn as part of sex.

if Alex, Em or Nelly had a brain cell between them, they could maybe understand that. Could maybe begin to question how the beliefs they are parroting, are perhaps byproducts of a patriarchal society.

but since the trio are utter idiots They aren’t capable and resort to what amounts to bullying and name calling their own following.
The worst part is? They don’t care. Because the arguements they are embroiling themselves in, amount to engagement and all Em cares about is money. As per her rant earlier in the year because people dared to report her.

no wonder people kept reporting her. She is toxic AF and an entitled bully.

 

[Swipeupyouguys]

I generally like her but can’t help but think she is going to go insane as it seems at least one of her followers is going to disagree/take umbrage with even the smallest silly thing she posts about. I don’t know how you could live a happy life having to constantly apologise to people or defend or clarify your every move. And also when she had Covid and people were on at her about not being able to have her operation.. why would people do that I feel bad for her.

Came here from Niomi Smart's thread as Em waded in on Niomi's insta.

Maybe I'll stand alone here, but here goes...

Em Clarkson actually asked for people's stories on jaw surgeries, (to up her insta engagement) and told her auidence she had covid near her op date etc. By marketing herself as a dear chum / big sister to her auidence they will feel like they can message her with thoughts and advise just as they would an actual friend. She isn't their mate, she's a sales person on insta masquerading as a big sister figure, yet like the rest chooses to keep the friend act going while she establishes a larger and larger following who she currently needs to interact with her while growing her insta engagement figures.

She needed the SM following to get her book sales, she got the publishing deal thanks to family connections, and is very lucky. People stating she doesn't use Jeremy Clarkson's to get exposure, well...firstly she has his name, secondly she has his face (not saying she looks like a man but as soon as I saw her I knew, as she has her father's features) and lastly having Jezza all over her socials (with his reputation for being a ruddy cheeked bully, who was fired for punching camera crew over lack of steaks. His being a Conservative etc) won't appeal to her target auidence of younger, mostly Liberal women who want to be told that just by showing up they're doing great, and that insta filters aren't real (a good message!) She will however take all the lucrative endorsement deals along the way - thanks. Picking up where Jameela Jamil's twitter tapered off and offering a picture free version of Florence Given's book. Em seems to (like her Father) just enjoy the sound of her own voice, an awful lot.

Her insta is mostly fun at this stage, but she's in it for the easy life, the huge cash grabs and minimal work hours like the rest if the influencers who refuse to acknowledge their privilege, and will screw over their auidence in time when the right deal is offered.

Enjoy her, but don't be fooled, she is just like the rest of them and only has her own best interests at heart.

She reminds me of a bully. The kind of girl in school who was soooo good at appearing like an angel to teachers and parents but was horrendous behind the scenes. I get strong bully vibes off her but can’t put my finger on why - I think it’s how I see her interact with people in comments, and the way she comes across as very ranty and sanctimonious.

I appreciate my opinion might not be shared by others on the thread but I get really bad vibes.

Yes!

 

[cee-bee]

Feels like a sense of entitlement again to me. She feels entitled to be liked and not be spoken negatively about.

her father has literally gloated about nepotism. She’s called women who have one night stands “sluts”. Her brand of feminism absolutely isn’t intersectional, it’s about making herself money. But anyone critiquing her is out of order.

I don’t come on tattle to gossip, I come on tattle because I see how damaging and hypocritical a lot of “influencers” are. It gives me a place to vent and learn about ways influencers can be misleading, and in that sense I think the forum provides a valuable function. Some threads are a bit mental, but then every pocket of the internet has that. Nothing I’ve seen about Em has been wildly unfair.

Em says she doesn’t think anyone would come onto a forum and speak badly of her if they were unhappy? Well thanks for your concern em, but i have a pretty great life actually and im a pretty happy person if I do say so myself.

Conversely, I would suggest that people who curate an online persona of themselves probably aren’t very happy people. I don’t know anyone who is happy within themselves who needs to present an act online and get validation from strangers. I don’t know anyone happy within themselves who needs to relentlessly post online. I don’t know anyone who is happy within themselves who feels the need to outright LIE about seeing “trolls’ faces” in a pathetic attempt to control the narrative.

good for you hun if you “know yourself” and if dismissing everyone on tattle who disagrees with you as some sad, unhappy troll helps you sleep at night then I’ve no issue with that, but no one is actually believing that line. The truth is, we are all normal people who have full and happy lives, but just have a very different perspective to you. And just like you refuse to “make yourself small” why should tattlers keep quiet? You make money as a promoter, often promoting products like fast fashion which a lot of people find unethical. Your brand of feminism is exclusionary, which lots of people find unethical. Etc etc etc.

 

[cee-bee]

The one with Nelly London about trolling pretty much was. They basically said if you’re on Tattle we don’t want you as a listener, so that’s the point where I thought, ok then bye 🫥

What they were really saying was;

If you have an opinion that differs from our, superior opinions then we aren’t interesting in having you as a listener as we like living in our cocoon of privilege and are creating a nice little echo chamber for ourselves that we don’t want ruined.

 

[jjeett]

I've never disagreed with Em up until now. If I saw Nelly in the street in lingerie I wouldn't be offended or have much to say but I can still respect that it might make other people uncomfortable. I don't get why they're putting such energy in trying to invalidate these people. It's not up to Em and Alex to determine what should make others uncomfortable or not.

There are flaws in their arguments too like someone above mentioned.

 

[Brazenboob]

Emily IS a victim here. MM IS a victim here. With comments like this, tbh, ALL women are victims. It doesn't matter who is right who is wrong who did what, ALL women suffer from misogyny like this.

Today right now Emily will be feeling that directly with the thousands of people in her DMs saying say more do more cut him off blah blah blah. MM will be feeling it while thousands parrot JC's violent words. Saying you hate someone on a cellular level and describing sexual violence of this level is not 'questioning actions or behaviours'.

But men having platforms to say shit like this damages us all by giving men a free pass to speak about us and our daughters that way on small and large scales. Anyone who makes this incident into an anti-MM thing is completely missing the point.

 

[caterday28]

Anyone else think she's great? She's upbeat and genuine, and uses her platform for a lot of good (e.g. body positivity, women's rights). She's the daughter of Jeremy Clarkson but seems to have gained a following beyond this.

 

[bellinibobble]

What they were really saying was;

If you have an opinion that differs from our, superior opinions then we aren’t interesting in having you as a listener as we like living in our cocoon of privilege and are creating a nice little echo chamber for ourselves that we don’t want ruined.

Exactly!!! Part of me would love to discuss it with them, like, you realise 99% of Tattlers are just nosy people who like to gossip, but then log off and get on with their day, and don’t give influencers a second thought, never mind wanting to ruin their career/life/business/whatever? There are funny people on here, not to mention lots of good off topic threads and it’s a more approachable forum than MN in my opinion. It’s not how they make it out, at all!

 

[cee-bee]

I overall like her, she’s privileged yeah and I am not entirely sure how she affords her lifestyle or what she actually does all day, but hey she’s certainly putting a better message out there than most and I like that she sticks up for herself, calls shit out and doesn’t mind just saying it how it is.

Although i have a slight issue that every time she does a post where her stomach is on show she poses with her arms above her head trying to make herself look slimmer. Like yeah we’d obviously all do the same, but on the next post she’ll be ranting about how fake Instagram is and how you should be happy in your own body.. just find it a bit troublesome.

I think she knows what the right thing to say is, what will sit well with people, and goes with it.

she doesn’t have a lot of original ideas. She is all about feminism and inclusivity on a surface level, in that she’ll regurgitate feminist quotes. What some people might call “saying it like it is” to me comes across as aggressive and rude; as someone who is convinced of their superiority and will attack anyone who dares disagree.

In an ad she posted for a sweaty betty sports bra, she talks about female empowerment and “breast concerns” among women, how Sweaty Betty have a campaign to encourage women to exercise yada yada yada.

except sweaty Betty as a brand, isn’t sustainable. On the rating website good on you sweaty Betty scored 2/5 on the Labour rating and were rated overall as “not good enough” with the verdict on their labour practices; “There is no evidence it has worker empowerment initiatives such as collective bargaining or rights to make a complaint. There is no evidence it ensures payment of a living wage in its supply chain. It traces some of its supply chain. It audits some of its supply chain including all of the final stage of production.”

who makes up the majority of labourers in the fast fashion industry? That’s right - women and girls. Em is happy for female empowerment when she’s able to #ad it, she’s happy to talk about it because she knows it appeals to most of us reading. but if she was *truly* about empowering women; wouldn’t she care about these women bein exploited by this particular brand? Wouldn’t she highlight that in her ad? Wouldn’t she refuse to work with Sweatyy Betty until they improved? It’s easy to interview popular female journalists and influencers and bloggers and ask them to talk about how hard it is being a female in the public space. That isn’t hard hitting or unique. These are women who already have a platform, a voice. The garment workers do not.

someone pointed it out to her in a comment a little while back, and I noticed because she was super sarky. They pointed out that fast fashion is exploitive and it’s something a lot of influencers are involved in. em’s response?

“Why don’t you want women to make money?” Aka female influencers are making money so what’s the issue? Who cares about female garment workers?

and in response to that same person saying women shouldn’t make money if it exploits other women;

“You say women must support each other and then literally say you don’t want women making money if it’s in a way you don’t agree with” like yes, obviously Em. No one should be happy to make money off of poor, underpaid, exploited women. That isn’t feminism. Feminism is dismantling patriarchal systems (of which fast fashion is one). What em is doing is pushing these garment workers to the side to get a place at the table for herself. That’s working to keep the patriarchial systems in place under the guise of feminism.

Don’t let her empty platitudes fool you. Em doesn’t care about anything other than making herself money. That’s how I came to learn of her existence: that time she had a meltdown because someone reported her posts. She was worried she’d lose money because of it.

to everyone who says they like her; she knows exactly what she’s doing. She’s saying things she knows you like hearing. But she’s not practicing it. Her attitude towards fast fashion shows her complete hypocrisy.

 

[Littleandsmall]

I think Arla would be beautiful for a girl, but Arlo? Maybe it's because I know two people who have recently named their male puppies that... But each to their own

 

[cee-bee]

To illustrate my point (because this type of misinformation really pisses me off)

here’s what Em is claiming;

here is a small selection of major U.K. news outlets covering in depth about what is going on in Iran, from the last two days alone. It took a whole 2 minutes to google this and find these stories, but em is more concerned with getting an insta story out than the small inconvenience of letting facts get in the way of her take. After all, why does she need to check? She’s right about everything, all of the time.

Em, revelling in her ignorance, telling us she never reads the news without telling us she doesn’t read the news.

 

[petitspois]

Just the concept of being an influencer makes my skin crawl. It undermines mental health, fosters envy and feelings of inadequacy.

 

[cee-bee]

They can put across their opinions as forcefully as they want, it’s their platform at the end of the day, but the arguing with individuals in the comments seems unnecessary. It’s probably all to up the engagement, simple as that. Weird to do it at the expense of a mate though - especially one who has never done a podcast for this reason. I note she hasn’t addressed it at all.

I’d defo leave this to Alex and enjoy my holiday if I were her! The ‘argument’ or ‘drama’ is only continuing because of them

Yep exactly. They are definitely doing it for the engagement.

It’s utterly pathetic to argue in the comments the way they are. Someone (very reasonably), said they didn’t think it was appropriate for someone to be walking around in underwear. Em’s response?

“Go have a word with every single builder from may-September pls”

Like, what? What is she even talking about? Builders bums? Builders working topless? Not only does she like childish, argumentative and holier than thou - she sounds stupid af and uneducated too.

Building sites are not the same at all, as someone walking in the street in underwear that is inherently sexual in nature.

A bikini is not sexual by nature. Builders working topless is not sexual by nature.

Lingerie that is silky, lacy and with a purely ornamental garter belt - is sexual.

It isn’t about women’s bodies or being empowered. It isn’t even addressing the argument of how overly sexualised women’s bodies are. This was purely a vanity stunt by Nelly. You can be empowered in your body without wearing lingerie. You can be empowered fully clothed or in cotton Granny pants. If Nelly wants to wear her undies because that empowers her? Fine. If she wants to take pics of it, fine. But walking around in public in undies? (Why is that empowering exactly?) the public sphere is a shared space. We should be considerate towards others.

It’s about someone wearing an outwardly sexual outfit in a public space and the appropriateness of that. If I saw a man wearing a leather thong strutting the streets, id find that immensely uncomfortable, just as much as I’d find Nelly uncomfortable. And that doesn’t make me some Puritan, or evil proponent of misogyny.


The fact that Alex and Em can’t countenance reasonable, alternate viewpoints to their own just showcases how narrow minded, unintelligent and idiotic they both are. They could’ve considered that what they see as empowering, isn’t a universal opinion. They could have addressed the deeper Qs of the different attitudes to female bodies v male. But no, em makes a sarcastic, idiotic, glib comment and then probably smugly gives herself a pat on the back over how clever she is and over the insta engagement.

 

[petitspois]

I'm not going to knock her dress, each to their own. It's the staggering privilege that gets me. I know it's not her fault but I googled her brother to see what he did for a 'living' and he went to Rugby school then immediately became maitre'd at The Wolseley then Soho House then onto Newscorp. These opportunities just wouldn't present themselves to Finlo if he went to a comp in Dunstable would they?

 

[Somersetvibes]

This woman had better not EVER preach to us about global warming/climate change etc.

EVER!

 

[Puglypoohead]

My opinion is she is very careful about what she shows online, despite making out she is oh so open. In lockdown she lived with her mum, had access to their own swimming pool and never once posted how she was enjoying it (her sister did though) as im sure she knew full well how much it would piss the regular everyday people off (and especially those struggling). She has her own manager, which I don't think she's ever mentioned (i know someone who knows them), so they obviously have a content plan and meetings about what will be posted, and I'm sure that'll include her 'body positivity' posts. She's a huge humble bragger IMO, tries way too hard to be relatable when reality is fuck all of her followers can genuinely relate to her actual privileged lifestyle.

Oh and the symprovise bullshit was probably uploaded by her manager, along with lots of the other content too