Emily Clarkson (em_clarkson)

[lisa.mekh890305]

Regarding the whole “Jezza headlines” topic… it’s not at all sexist to refer to her as that? Emily is no one in her own right. If you said “Emily Clarkson” to a random person from the UK (ie the audience of those newspapers) the likelihood is they’d have no clue who you’re talking about. If you said “Jeremy Clarkson” they’d most likely know. So it makes sense to say “clarkson’s daughter” otherwise the headline just sounds like “random lady gives birth” especially as Clarkson is such a common surname.

it’s not about sexism or being a man / woman. I bet most people don’t know who Alex Jones is, so if he was to do anything noteworthy newspapers would have to write “Felicity Jones’s brother”.

I guess what does bother her is that she’s achieved nothing and despite all her efforts she’s still a nobody, as evidenced by the headlines

 

[cee-bee]

I'm not going to knock her dress, each to their own. It's the staggering privilege that gets me. I know it's not her fault but I googled her brother to see what he did for a 'living' and he went to Rugby school then immediately became maitre'd at The Wolseley then Soho House then onto Newscorp. These opportunities just wouldn't present themselves to Finlo if he went to a comp in Dunstable would they?

Same for Em. Lots of talented authors struggle to get published because of lack of “audience” (read: insta following). The ones that do manage to get published tend to come from oxbridge type unis (think Sally Rooney, who went to Trinity and who had her books picked up without even trying too hard). JK struggled in the 90s to get published - nowadays she almost certainly wouldn’t be.

But Em? Somehow managed to get two books published pre-Instagram account in her early 20s. This is all despite not having any big platform or any real experience in writing or having a literary education.

I posted a little while back an article in which Jeremy Clarkson is practically bragging about nepotism. I’d bet my life on him having pulled strings for his kids.

It’s not their fault for being born to wealth and privilege but it is a lack of character when they just accept and coast along on that privilege while pretending it doesn’t exist.

 

[cee-bee]

Has anyone hated themselves enough to force themselves to endure attempted one of the podcast episodes?

Em sounds EXACTLY like I’d I’ve imagined her too. Loud and difficult to listen to, self absorbed, ranty, interrupts Alex because obvs the stuff Em has to say is more important than anything else

there was a review that said;

“What happens when two bored, privileged and uninformed white people decide to make a podcast and treat meaningless trivial rubbish as life and death”

which feels pretty spot on

 

[hellogrrrl]

Lol apparently she's seen our facesView attachment 1462450

She doesn’t know our faces. She’s just desperately trying to scare people off from calling her out on shit she shouldn’t get away with. What a gobshite

 

[cee-bee]

Basically that for her it was the best day ever and reading what other people thought made her question it. So as an example seeing other people say they didn’t like her dress and hair made her think it she made the wrong choices, when at the time she’d loved them.

people will always have opinions, it’s immature and entitled to expect everyone to swallow a contradictory or negative opinion. Reading between the lines, she came onto tattle and read it. That’s on her. I’m not going to pretend I like her dress on a forum that isn’t for her. Likewise, I’m not a dickhead that’s going to leave a message under her photos saying I don’t like her dress.

 

[cee-bee]

That's not how they met is it? was he hired to help when Jeremy lamped the guy in the Top Gear crew?

I wondered the same!

imagine being invited out to socialise with that group:

“meet Jeremy Clarkson, he got fired from his job for assaulting and racially abusing a subordinate to him! It’s all in the past now though don’t you know, he has a wholesome farm so it’s all ok now…

then we have Jez’s girlfriend Lisa. Lisa you must tell us what it was like to be married into the Thyssen family with Nazi connections? I bet that was a real hoot at dinner parties!

Then we have Jeremy’s daughter Em. Em has fortunately inherited her fathers disdain for education and has chosen the oath of ignorance in life. She’s hypocritical and proud don’t you know? One day she’s about female empowerment the ex day it’s a fast fashion #ad! So many fingers in so many pies. What a trooper.

last but not least we have Em’s fiancé, Alex. Alex please tell us all about how your company defended one of the UK’s most prominent alleged child abusers? Were you directly involved with that or indirectly involved with rehabilitating his image? I bet Jez has given you lots of pointers on that front!”

lovely bunch of people

 

[cee-bee]

For anyone under the misunderstanding that Em is a victim in the Clarkson V Clarkson saga…

Google her name now, and you’ll get a column in pretty much every national newspaper about how she’s “condemning” her father. Most of the U.K. doesn’t know who she is - but she’s sure making headlines for next to nothing now. This will be generating traffic to her insta, garnering her sympathy follows and likes.

At the start of this month, she had ~265k followers… she now has 283k… an extra 18 thousand people in the space of three weeks. Her post about Meghan has 29k likes, in contrast to her overall average of 6k likes per post. All of this, translates as building her “career” and translates into revenue stream for her.

But let’s pretend that, despite all of the showbiz help she has at her disposal, and despite years of experience her parents have between them, and despite the fact her husband works in PR (specifically, reputational damage) and despite the fact she has her own management (Jenny Rose at 84 world, who is head of operations and above the other regular talent managers, which means Em enjoys the best treatment and management possible)… let’s suspend disbelief for a second and pretend this has all been some accidental faux pas.

She still has the aforementioned support available to her. She has still undoubtedly benefited from this. What are the downsides exactly? Some angry DMs shes (presumbably) receiving. In a couple of days people will forget what Jeremy Clarkson wrote and how his daughter responded… but she’ll still have enjoyed that surge of exposure and engagement.

and sure, when articles like jeremy’s are printed, all women suffer. It feeds into a misogynist public dialogue, it reaffirms sexist attitudes, it feeds into internalised misogyn. But what I won’t accept is the pretence that it effects all women the same.

because WOC, poor women, disabled women and so on, suffer much more than the likes of Em Clarkson ever will, from her dad’s sexist rants. He feels comfortable being openly sexist because he knows his daughter is protected from it to an extent.

em is only concerned about misogyny when it negatively affects her. She isn’t intersectional in her personal brand of feminism. She is happy to peddle fast fashion in full knowledge of how exploitive it is towards women. She is happy to accept promotional column inches from the sun when it involves selling her book. She is happy to benefit from nepotism from her father. She is happy to latch onto the first man to take her seriously. She is completely happy to benefit from misogyny and is never really concerned with actually dismantling any real patriarchal systems. She doesn’t refuse to do business with the sun, she didn’t refuse opportunities nepotism brings her - even though all of this harms other women who don’t enjoy the buffers she has, shes happy time and time again to overlook it all. Sorry, but posting a vid saying it’s OK to eat a doughnut, doesn’t cut it. It doesn’t negate all the shitty practices she engages in. It’s superficial, it’s easy, it’s cheap feminism without any real backbone.

so sorry but in my view, Em Clarkson is no victim. Not in any direct sense.

 

[jjeett]

She acts how I imagine men would if they got pregnant.

 

[cee-bee]

I certainly wouldn’t be arguing with internet people while on that beach
Would love to be there right now!

Look at the comments it’s gotten though. Just under 1300. That means engagement, even if the comments are negative. And ultimately engagement is money to these people.

Look at her other posts - some have as little as 41, a rough average seems to be about 150 (at a glance). She’s improved her engagement 10 times over with that Nelly vid.

If you’re under the illusion that Em gives a fig about the beliefs and values she claims to, you have to question why she monetises it. The Nelly post has indirectly earned her money. Plus Nelly has more of a following than she does, so she is aligning herself to bigger players so to speak. She’s upping her engagement and potential following by posting that. To the people asking what the point of it was - that was the point. Em has shown no real desire to engage in meaningful dialogue over it, she hasn’t even offered much food for thought. Plus I’ve commented earlier about how Em is all about empowering women but will also promote fast fashion brands which exploit women.

Simply put: she doesn’t care about empowering women. Em is a wealthy, privileged, cloistered young woman. She’s grown up with an opinionated entitled father, and she herself is every bit as entitled and opinionated (but ill-informed). Just as her father curated an affable, laddy image for his TV show (but then showed his ugly side when he assaulted someone at their place of work, losing his job for it), Em too curates an image of being a feminist defender of minorities and social issues. Don’t be fooled, her priority is making money.

She didn’t care about female empowerment when she posted that Nelly vid. She posted it because she knew it could be, ultimately, financially profitable for her, which is precisely why she shouldn’t be the voice for any of the issues she wades in on.

 

[cee-bee]

It’s sad though isn’t it that everything on social media is orchestrated nowadays. Everything is fake just to make money. I wish it would all collapse around them so they’d fuck off

I honestly really miss when Instagram was just a bit of fun and see what your mates were up to. No “trending” fashion or makeup being shoved down your throat, no “influencers” making a living covertly selling you crap while pretending to be your bestie. No super curated images and videos. You’d just snap a blurry pic on an earlier iPhone model and made slap on a pre-made filter and that’d be it.

Influencers really are total leeches who don’t offer much of positive value to the world. They are largely hugely narcissistic and em is no exception. They aren’t people we should be taking advice from, but they position themselves as advice givers.

Em rants about how photoshop can be used to cover physical blemishes etc etc. and seems wholly unaware of the hypocrisy or irony as somehow who puts on a total front for social media, who curates a presence there with management to assist.

 

[Fridgepicker]

She’s so defensive I’m really going off her now, it’s like when she’s losing a point & more people disagree with her than agree she just cannot take it

 

[cee-bee]

This has certainly flipped from a rave thread pretty quickly

I think after a while the mask starts to slip and people start to pick up on the insincerity when someone’s words don’t align to their actions and they quickly become very annoying (even when we can’t put our finger on it)

in the case of Em, complaining at the start of the year after being reported, showed a real sense of entitlement IMO, and someone who is very out of touch and arrogant.

she wades in on important social issues but has literally zero qualifications or experience. Worse, she’s rather dismissive of the academia which studies and conceptualise these issues. I quote Em “By choosing to forgo a diploma and three years of stealing traffic cones and eating cereal, I got a head start on my life, jumping straight into work while saving a fortune.” Because Uni is just stealing traffic cones and eating cereal, right? Maybe the spelling mistakes are genuine as she didn’t get the a levels she needed for Uni despite having every social advantage. Maybe she really just isn’t very intelligent.

 

[wibblywobblywoo]

Em and her horrible friends sent nasty messages to my friend that were so bad she deleted her Instagram at no point had my friend direct messaged her or commented on her posts, but she had posted comments here. Absolutely disgusting that Em thinks it's ok to attack people via their private dms.

She likes to pretend she's not bothered but is clearly spending time reading here and then spreading her hate via dms. She's a vindictive nasty person.

 

[CBS1]

I mean its interesting how she's discussing the media's interest and how they are constantly "hellbent on destroying this woman", how they've "been treated appallingly" and then there's this... her own Father is a part of it...

Jeremy Clarkson rages at Meghan Markle before pal crashes car

Jeremy Clarkson revealed he had a "furious argument" with his pal about Meghan Markle.

www.express.co.uk

I had an argument with someone - we couldn’t agree how awful Meghan is

I HAD a furious agreement with someone this week, and it got so out of hand, she crashed into a hedge. We both agreed that Meghan Markle is an unhinged monster, but we couldn’t agree on just how aw…

www.thesun.co.uk

 

[Misssj80]

I've had to un follow her, I liked her up until this. Both her and Alex(the other lady that does the podcast) keep saying it is ok to have a difference of opinion but then in the next breath it's like only their opinion on this matters

 

[wibblywobblywoo]

Jesus that’s awful. Sorry that happened to your friend, I hope she’s OK.

She's ok but at the time she was soo upset. The messages she received were horrific. Just to say the initial messages were from Em but the really awful ones were from her friends. Even her mother sent my friend a friend request!

 

[CBS1]

I went to school with Emily, she made sure that everyone knew who her father was, so this is absolute bullshit. What she failed to realise is that there were a lot more important/famous parents than Jezza so literally no one cared

 

[cee-bee]

My opinion is she is very careful about what she shows online, despite making out she is oh so open. In lockdown she lived with her mum, had access to their own swimming pool and never once posted how she was enjoying it (her sister did though) as im sure she knew full well how much it would piss the regular everyday people off (and especially those struggling). She has her own manager, which I don't think she's ever mentioned (i know someone who knows them), so they obviously have a content plan and meetings about what will be posted, and I'm sure that'll include her 'body positivity' posts. She's a huge humble bragger IMO, tries way too hard to be relatable when reality is fuck all of her followers can genuinely relate to her actual privileged lifestyle.

Oh and the symprovise bullshit was probably uploaded by her manager, along with lots of the other content too

I think you’ve hit the nail on the head. She pretends to be one of us girls because that’s what will sell, not because she genuinely believes any of this.

a few posts ago she posted about how romance “isn’t equal” and partnered up with bumble but like, she’s been with the same guy since her teens - what does Em know about waiting to respond to texts and deciding who pays for dinner?

And that post “society has us falling in love with lads we met up with once in Nando’s” like, how would you know Em? You’ve never dated as an adult - what makes you think you can wade in to talk about modern dating issues when you’ve never actually done it?

it’s her entitlement. Shes entitled to her opinion, to talk about things she knows nothing about. She’s entitled to money and that’s what brings in the cash - being relatable to women. It’s all one big facade.

Id normally say, let greedy shallow people live their greedy shallow lives, more fool them. But I despise the fact she misleads people on really important issues.

 

[girl1980]

This woman had better not EVER preach to us about global warming/climate change etc.

EVER!

And such an unnecessary post. Like, why did she post it? To show off her privilege? Show off that she went to the funeral? Or wind us up with her carbon emissions?

 

[cee-bee]

I didn’t see her say that about one night stands? What an ugly outlook.

The vaccine thing pissed me off as well.

I don’t understand what she is actually an “activist” for? For advertising and money? There’s been a lot going on recently with Roe V Wade, Johnny Depp trial and Kim K. All serious topics yet she’s recording herself wearing the wrong size of underwear…

she’s not an activist for anything. She’s just a very opinionated privileged person, who isn’t well informed in her opinions, has a lot of them and wants to monetise them. She wanted an easy, well paid career. She didn’t have much intelligence or work ethic but had the connections to go down the influencer route. She has no real passion or experience in most of the topics she talks about.

the Johnny Depp trial is too nuanced for her to wade into … she’s an easy tumblr type feminism because that’s easy to sell. The Depp trial is hard because it’s obviously challenging the initial
perception of Amber as a victim of DV. There’s also the delicate and difficult topic of male victims of DV or intimate partner abuse I think it’s been referred to in the trial. In short, Em doesn’t have the brain cells or inclination to tackle it. It’s not going to up her engagement much or get her #ads so no incentive there either.

the roe v Wade stuff is maybe a bit too political for her tumblr style feminism. Money is her main goal here, she wants to keep it light and accessible.