Positive_jess74 & trans_atlantic_alison

[ell73949032838]

Just an FYI that what I say next is not transphobic, I am not transphobic and have actually supported Ali when people on this thread have used the wrong pronouns. This is just my option.
She’s deleted it now, but she had a video up a while ago about ‘doing it for the girls’ and people praising her underneath. The fact of the matter is, when she was training and qualified as a pilot, she identified as male. So she has nothing to do with ‘doing it for the girls’ because she identified as male up until 2 years ago, at which time she was already employed. Therefore, she cannot relate to the struggles or inequality of women pilots, and it annoys me trying to take credit for that and be part of a movement when you had male privilege to get you where you are now

 

[Melj71]

This might offend but I can’t take her calling herself a woman, she’s not. Women have a uterus, a womb and have periods. Why is the word woman being erased to fit in with others! Also when is Ali going to get a bloody job.

It does offend. This is not the thread for that.

 

[ell73949032838]

Why the Angry Face in the reactions.

Probably because you’re purposely using the wrong pronouns. This thread has nothing to do with being against Ali being transgender and she identifies as a woman and is transitioning. Regardless of our views on her (I myself have expressed that I don’t particularly like her and her content) that is no reason to misgender someone

 

[Popsock123]

I’ll try and find more when I get in tomorrow.

one last thing tonight.

I do get that from what Jess has said at work Ali isn't half as bad as we all think on here, And foolishly Ali worships the ground Jess walks on.

Jess was saying it wasn't Ali's idea to open a go fund me, Jess suggested it. And I do know from speaking to her Ali had no clue about the fund raising for her. Ali had already saved up for her surgery before and paid for her top surgery before hand. I got the impression that they have gone thro all the money Ali had put aside for her op while she's been messed about going back flying, hence the go fund me?

Hi Ali I mean if your not and your Jess’ colleague, why are you here? You know a lot to not ‘out’ yourself surely

 

[Popsock123]

I love Jess, she deserves the world. What a kind hearted lady..

I like Ali’s content but I dunno I think her mask is starting to slip. I can see what others mean when they say it, sometimes she looks furious that people ask about Jess etc. And the video replies to ‘trolls’ are coming off as arrogant IMO

 

[wishywosh23]

I work with Jess so got to be careful what say here in case she works out who I am.

Don't fall for the sad Jess line, she's as hard as nails and by her own words she's the one in control of that relationship and always has been.. She's admits she's a control freak... and things like always checking up on Ali, monitoring their bank accounts and lots of other things I've picked up on since she started here. I actually feel Ali could be classed as being controlled at times.

Reason she does not want to talk about Ali is two fold. Firstly, Ali asked her not to after she started her new account, yes she using her secondary account and doing lots of trans stuff on that apparently and I'm trying to find out the name of it from Jess. Secondly and the reason she is wanting a divorce is that she's (Jess) sleeping with a member of staff here. They try to hide it but we all know... Been at it since she started here, Ali has no clue at all I think. I get the feeling its not the first time she's had an extra marital fling..

As for Ali I met her once at a do and she was lovely, really warm and open to people, bit nervous as you'd expect and wary of harassment, maybe it comes over wrong on tiktok.
And I can't say her hair was greasy, it looked really good that night, and not just looking like a one off but like she looks after it well, I wish mine was in half as good a condition.

And according to Jess, Ali is not seeing anyone. The camera man guy is an old friend and she was joking with a friend.

And as for Ali not working she is, doing some sort of instructing, other things while she waits, so she's bringing money in. and her parents only paid the mortgage for two months while they got sorted after redundancy.

If this isn't someone that's been asked to make an account by Ali then I will quite literally eat my hat. They throw Jess under the bus AND defend Alison having greasy hair in the same message. Come on, nobody is stupid enough to believe it's a colleague of Jess

 

[Melj71]

Sad people? This is a gossip site. We are not trolling her on her socials just commenting on here and having an opinion. She's actively sought out this site and thread and cherry picked the comments to screen shot. Holy moley she needs to read some other threads to see how vicious comments can be.

In my opinion Ali has led a privileged life as a white, male, middle class pilot. Ok, she wasn't living her authentic life but for the majority of her adult life she has benefited from white, male privilege. Her transition is possibly the first time in a while where she has had to face judgement, criticism and things haven't gone entirely her way (all completely unjustifiable and horrible) This is why I feel she comes across as passive aggressive, flouncey and arrogant. The go fund me was a joke. You would exhaust all other avenues before getting your begging bowl out - downsizing, getting a temp job etc.

That is my opinion. I am not obsessed with you Ali I am talking about you as you have put yourself out there to be talked about.

 

[purplepuffle]

A long time lurker here, finally felt it was time to say something. I have no issue with Jess at all, she seems very kindhearted and a genuinely nice person. Ali however, I just cannot stand the arrogance of her! I grew up with a stepdad who was a captain for a luxury airline - he too had the typical pilot arrogance, I think that's part of Ali's problem, she is a typical pilot - thinking she is above everyone else, knows it all and just so self obsessed, it's unfortunately very common with pilots. You'll know if someones an airline pilot because they won't shut up about it! I also feel bad for Jess, it seems that she's done so much to support Ali, and Ali seems to treat her like crap... the way she talks about the kids winds me up! Ali cannot seem to grasp the fact that people don't hate on her because of her being transgender, that's never okay to hate on someone for that reason, she gets the hate because the way she comes across, her personality. As others have said, any potential new employers aren't going to want to employ someone who portrays them self the way Ali does currently. I don't hate Ali, and I've never actually commented on any of her vids, or lives, I just feel like she needs to present herself better, and understand that not everybody is going to like her, and that's okay.

 

[tiktokaddict87]

Wow. That is incredibly rude.

Wow - I hope I don't get lynched when I say I adore Jess and what she is about. Grafts some hours in her job and has to grieve for her husband due to transition. I liked Ali but her arrogance towards Jess at times just isn't fair and reading above made it seem so unfair.
I hope Jess meets someone absolutely spot on as she deserves it from watching her this past year. I've actually unfollowed Ali as I find the content boring and repetitive

 

[Bellaboo1994]

I think it's time Jess take her boys and get out of Toxic Towers. Start a new life and make herself number one priority.
I also think Ali needs to keep her nasty trap shut. She's making herself look like a cretin.

I agree. I think Jess feels she has to stick around to financially support Ali until she gets her job situation sorted and she can support herself. I’d say fuck that, god knows how long that will take.
Jess is working all hours whilst Ali is off meeting friends and starting relationships. Nah that’s not right.
Jess if you read this get out now, you’ve done your bit for Ali but now it’s time to concentrate on yourself and your sons.

 

[butterfliesandhurricanes]

People seem to leave some nasty stuff on Ali’s videos I’m not surprised she’s a bit more standoffish. Remember she is a trans woman. That comes with a lot of transphobia a lot of people who think it’s “wrong”. People seem to pity Jess a lot but it is hard on both of them. Jess losing her life as she knew it with her husband and Ali after years and years beginning her life as her true self. Coming out as trans isn’t easy and she is probably still finding herself. I wish them both well I genuinely think they are both good people

 

[SamanthaC1990]

I actually really like Jess. She seems a really genuine person and as others have said she works really hard at her job and is trying to better herself. I feel so sorry for her though, she must feel like she's wasted 10+ years of her life with Ali, like their whole relationship was a lie. If Ali would have been honest from the get go then maybe Jess's life would have been totally different as those are years that she will never get back unfortunately. I do think she's a lovely woman and happiness will find her though.
Ali has blocked me on TikTok though, I'm not even sure what I said but whatever it was would have only been minor. She comes across as so rude and like she thinks she's better than everyone else. The way she speaks to Jess is disgusting, she's always interrupting her and talking down to her. If I was Jess I'd feel tiny with some of the things Ali says!
If you're reading this Jess, I'm so sorry for everything you've been through. I'm sure you'll find the one for you soon enough though as you're a genuinely lovely lady.

 

[clamo48]

On Ali’s live somebody asked who Jess is, she responded just someone I live with it, thought it was a bit harsh, things definitely aren’t good in the camp!

 

[alittlelostsheep]

I also love Jess!! I hope she is ok also - it must be awful what she’s going through.

I find Ali is all a bit self-entitled at times? Now she’s got the go fund me money she’s changed...

 

[CheCheKitty1]

New thread thought - Jess and Ali, a sneaky pair, they blame the trolls yet overshare!

 

[Bellaboo1994]

I just caught a bit of Jess’ live. Ali was live with her but she was elsewhere with friends. Jess seemed quiet sad, Ali of course didn’t seem bothered. People were commenting saying it was awkward which I agree it was.
Ali is obviously very selfish and seems oblivious to how Jess is feeling. I think Jess needs to get away from Ali now as it must damaging her mental health. There is no way I could stick around in that situation. As much as I find Jess annoying I feel so bad for her. It’s pretty obvious all this dancing and grinning at the camera is an act to cover up how she’s truly feeling.

 

[Bec3007]

I do really like Jess. Yes she may be cringe or whatever to some but overall I do think she’s a lovely person. I cannot stand Ali though, never have. I think she’s very rude and almost comes across as she’s better than the rest of us. I understand transitioning may be hard but I just don’t like her personality at all. I don’t think she appreciates Jess anywhere near enough either.

 

[CheCheKitty1]

I think Ali lives her life just waiting to be offended and is probably offended if there’s nothing to be offended about.

 

[allaboutthebling]

New thread suggestion- Ali and Jess shared their address now their life is more of a mess

 

[Octopies]

If I had been earning around £100,000 a year for a good chunk of my life and lived in a huge huge house I would be looking @ raising money myself (by downsizing, for example) for something before I considered a go fund me for any reason but that’s just my own personal opinion, I don’t like go fund mes as a general rule