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blue-orchid

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What happened to the ugly green polish and pointy nails?
I question if that's her signing.....
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So off topic real quick....

I've told my parents and two friends but not others. It's going to be a rough Oct and Nov....

Long story short...my 82 year old mom had a stroke last year, my dad who's 80 cares for her himself. She was in hospital end of June with pneumonia and Covid. I flew home spending the last 3 months there.

I am back in the US but have decided my 32 years here in the US are done.

We have no family in Singapore and so am selling the house, car and retiring at 49 from my job of 17 years.

My older sister is a narcissist so no help from her.

Yes, I will be moving from a lovely large home to the bedroom where my baby cot was.

Fun!

My time in the US is over.

I'm fortunate to still have my parents and being single and childless grants me the opportunity to go care for them.

They gave up so much for me and now I happily give this all up for them. I also plan to travel like a nutter.

My 2nd trip after my 50th in April will be the UK and France.

My 1st will be Melbourne and Sydney.

Perhaps one day we will all meet.

It's the one thing I am grateful to this muppet for.

She brought so many of us like minded women together.

Love to you all and for keeping me laughing despite the many days and nights I had tears streaming down my face.

🤗

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I am fortunate they have a live in housekeeper ( very common in Asia and the Middle East) and my dad is able bodied albeit slow, but it's not me there for them.

I have spent more than 3 decades in North America but it is time to go.

The decision to go be with them even though they do not feel they "need" me right now, is easy.

Moving back to a different culture, a place I left a week after I turned 17 is going to be really interesting.

I also wonder how life will be when both parents are gone. We are not close to any family as my parents were both set to be in arranged marriages to others.

Instead they told their parents and families to fuck right off, by running away together at age 17 and 18 in the middle of the night.

I admire them.

This is not a new chapter, but a new book in my life.

I just want to say thanks to all you lovely fellow Tattlers for always being so sweet, kind and unbelievably hilarious especially during my many sleepless nights.

Thank you. Love to you all
 
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Fantastic second thread @muffintop13 –thank you so much, and such a brilliant title suggestion, @Oops...! Is it possible that we can please put it forward for #191 again with *ALL* credit to @Oops...

#191: Smug and vile she writes to shill and now she’s got more Gates than Bill...

@blue-orchid 💕A very big, beautiful heart you have...matched only by your positive spirit! What support and joy you will bring to your family...it is beyond selfless & noble what you are doing, and all of us here will be supporting & cheering you on! 💕

@Namima You are so on top of things, from the Able2UK article to Petty Moi & 100,000 TikTok views! And that is without any key hashtags…it would be even higher if Savoygate’s 2.7M lydimillencontroversy and the 681M ableism were also tagged, which would reach so many good people who are dedicated to these causes.

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@clara95 It is disheartening, but the most powerful article, the 900+ comments Daily Mail one is still there—atop more blistering articles, many of which are about people's outrage. It paints an accretive negative image for her—which becomes damaging when prominent news organizations repeatedly write & publish such words, even just in the headlines:

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Very crafty editing of the book signing—to make it seem more impressive than it was.

With drama, tears and shrieks of “Still going! Still going…!” to create a show for YouTube—echoed by a dizzying swirl of repeating camera shots, which were sped up and slowed down for extra effect, so viewers believed the bookstore was overrun with orders & that this was one exhausting day! For a book that must be so in demand, that it was far too much for one author to possibly sign!

When it appears that this elevated drama was for just some 300 books.

For someone who has 990,000 YouTube subscribers, and who has been speaking about this book for months, (plus on all her other social media channels), the fact that such few autographed books were purchased, especially when it was claimed to have been “sold out” “multiple times,” is a terrible reflection of one’s ‘influence’ in general—but also of the book’s trajectory, with a conversion rate of just .0003%.

You can see these 300 books when they first enter the room…

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…which are then moved to the front for her signing. This is the exact same set of booksnot double the quantity, nor a room full of books.

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All she had to do was literally sign—and she had FOUR PEOPLE helping her. She didn’t have to open any boxes, stack any books, print out the orders, package or ship the books out, or get down on her hands and knees like the employees did—she didn’t even have to open a single book.

It was all done for her…in perfect, assembly-line fashion. It could not have been any easier. Despite this team of people adoringly catering to her, complaints were still vented, with multiple eye rolls.

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Including having to write people’s 5-letter names (“Emily”)—because names beyond 3 letters were deemed to be ‘too long.’ “Excessive! Get rid of them!” she says, with a cackle. Yes, she said “get rid” of her viewers/fans who spent hard-earned money to support her, but happened to be born with a name beyond 3 alphabetic letters that she would have to write out.




































So with this team of 4 dedicated, point-by-point helpers by her side—and having to sign only 300 books—things likely went quickly & smoothly, instead making for a *RATHER SHORT DAY.*

But…shhhhhh! Don’t tell the people at home that! One must stretch it out and provide whatever theatrics it takes
including a change of hairstyles, to make that “sold out, multiple times” story look believable.

When in reality, on that drive back home to the bungalow, that is where any real shrieks or tears were probably ever shed—that 300 signed books were all they could drum up—with this book literally not “flying off shelves”—except in the rarely-sought Sensory & Therapeutic Gardens and “Indoor Gardening Amazon categories.

It will be interesting to see if the Waterstones event will also have a low turnout—and how they will cover it when guests can film and share their versions of the event—unlike these intentionally closed-off moments (like Harrods—privately signed) where any real, face-to-face contact is avoided, and where they can fully control & edit the narrative.


But then, when you look deeper into this book's forthcoming release…


⭐ Where are there ANY interviews with lifestyle magazines—or even any news publications, to tease & create excitement for the book’s release?

Nowhere.


⭐ Where are there ANY formal book reviews by any critics, leading publications or lifestyle experts?

Nowhere.


⭐ Where are there ANY podcasts—or any sought-out interviews with her of any type?

Nowhere.


⭐ Where is ANY integrated marketing campaign or advertising to support the book?

Nowhere.


⭐ Where are there ANY celebratory launch events or parties—thrown by the publisher, colleagues or friends?

Nowhere.


⭐ Where are ANY of her influencer, corporate or celebrity friends—even her Life Coach, who are proudly putting their reputation on the line, ready to promote & speak well of her book?

Nowhere.



The pre-launch & planned activities for this book’s debut are essentially non-existentwith just 2-3 private signings & 1 event for launch.

THAT. IS. IT.

⭐ Even more shockingly, her publisher,
Orion Spring, HAS NEVER ONCE proudly announced or posted about her book on their Instagram OR Twitter accounts—even now, 72 hours prior to its release.

⭐Therefore, SHE, HERSELF has had to do nearly ANY & ALL promotion of this book ON HER OWN.


⭐ Lest anyone be fooled—this book is very poorly supported
and is not performing well in any way.


No one is strongly by her side.
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Which all shows how VERY LONELY a journey this in actuality has been for her.

Which is why the book store theatrics the other day were absolutely necessary to create some excitement or activity of any kind.


But beyond this book launch, she also has a very damaged image to simultaneously repair (a la the Daily Mail headlines)—with articles like these all over, like being named THE TOP | #1 “Most Out-Of-Touch Influencer Than They’d Ever Want You To Know"


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…that she is paying her PR firm good money each month to repair and resuscitate…so they likely helped get her into the awards show last night.

Which essentially then, she bought & paid for, making her own exalted appearance—
so she likely would want to milk it for all it is worth and get her ROI.

So again, cue the dramatics!

Maybe “forget" to upload Monday’s video
so that when it has blatantly gone missing and everyone wonders why, she can blame/remind everyone DID-YOU-KNOW-I-WENT-TO-A-BIG-AWARDS-SHOW-LAST-NIGHT? to help make people believe that:

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she is a luminary, busy & in demand

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there is a frenzy leading up to this ‘hot new book’

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she is so popular, loved & accepted by this very group—that they couldn’t stop spending time with her! Even until 3:30am!

- that she passionately cares & supports these causes


Does she passionately care? Going off today’s post, she called last night the “most emotional and special evening,but what appeared beneath these very words?

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Not a photo of the ceremony, or even of one triumphant person of courage.

No, it was all about her—and her appearance: a contrived, tacky glamour scene of her own making—posing on all sides of an ostentatious chauffeured-driven car, in an outfit courtesy of this week’s #paidsponsor. Which she had already posted plenty of the night before.



Lydia, throughout the past 2 weeks, have you taken a moment to try to understand the plight of the very people you were with last night? Did you really hear their stories? Or of the ones you slurred—to imagine what their daily life might be? Of the many hardships they face every single day—who already suffer far too much, and don’t need one more roadblock of being ridiculed?

If not, kindly see here:



































How does this not move you? Possibly to tears?

How can you still not apologize?

Or turn this into a learning moment that others could also benefit from?

How have you let this go on for another 2 weeks now—by denying, deflecting and ignoring what you have done?

How could you ensure your entry into last night’s event—but still not say or do anything of real consequence—just platitudes?

Was it all just to dress up for sponsored ad money? To get Getty Images ‘money shots’ of you in the clothing of your #paidsponsor? To land on the red carpet that you made sure to get yourself photographed upon? Which ‘ironically’ will be televised on the same day that your book releases?


This was already a terrible situation.

Which is now only EVEN WORSE.



At a minimum, may you take a moment today to count your many blessings. That you were not born with Down Syndrome, nor similar disabilities. That you are not a parent who has to watch their beloved child unnecessarily suffer, day after day, with lives forever changed. And endless medical bills. Notwithstanding all the strangers’ stares, finger pointing, ridicule and all else that comes with it.

For how fortunate they would be if their biggest problems were when will Despina finally return to the UK to fix their hair…..or which Hermes bag should be carried tomorrow in a seemingly unending & insatiable rotation.


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Queenofsaigon

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My lovely tattlers I have survived!
I must say her answers were coherent and made sense, whoever wrote them for her should get a pay rise.

Our little man was there. The whole 5’6.5” of him. Yes this is a confirmed height. There was no opportunity to confirm Lydia’s height, but Carrie was about an Both Carries and Lydia’s parents were there. Carri
parents sat in the 3rd row. Lydia’s somewhere in the back.

Surprisingly the church was full. I haven’t seen any influencers. MK way was definitely not there.

If you expect a lot of footage in the next vlog you will be disappointed. Carrie filmed for a grand total of 5 minutes out of an hour. This could have been a great opportunity for more content but alas her YouTube subscribers don’t pay to see her so why should she share.

The q&a was meh. Someone did ask why she published the book as Lydia Millen not Millen Gordon. Her answer was that this way she retained her real identity- the sweatpants wearing, bun on top of the head one (her words).

She forgot to switch off the mic when she left and we could all hear her say that she was “sweating soooo much”.

oh and I almost forgot, she had flash cards that reminded her to thank the audience because she gets overwhelmed.

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Do you think she realised I’m the tattle plug?
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How’s it going @Queenofsaigon ? Hoping she has arrived by now !?.
she was on time! 😱
 
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Julia123

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The way she talks about her mother is SO bad... and it's all to find a way to sell the hair zapper. She's the worst.

Growing up she was hairy but her mom was "very very busy keeping her head afloat so she was not really conscious of how hairy her daughter was." Says she should have been taken to a SPECIALIST for being hairy and was "left to her own devices" and had to shave.

WHAT IN THE ACUTAL F is wrong with her?! Using funerals to sell ugly clothing. Throwing her mom under the bus to sell a hair zapper.

Lydia you can say... I'm very hairy so I like this device for these reasons and shut the F up about your supposed negligent mother.
 
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Duchesspink

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Imagine getting half a dozen eggs as a birthday present! Imagine getting half a dozen eggs as a birthday present from someone in your family who would spend 20k on a handbag just for likes from strangers.
Half a dozen eggs. Fucking hell. That's shite. Nothing says I love you, quite like it
 
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FlipFlop0706

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Jesus it’s not hard Lidl. Here, I’ll even help you out with your response.

“oops a typo! Apologies, now changed, thank you for letting me know!”

If you can’t take accountability for something as simple as a spelling mistake then you have serious issues.
 
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Mrs. Gordon, “author,” questions the correct spelling of daughters. A complete embarrassment per usual in front of the bookstore staff while surrounded by all those books. See clip.
 

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FlipFlop0706

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The way she talks about her mother is SO bad... and it's all to find a way to sell the hair zapper. She's the worst.

Growing up she was hairy but her mom was "very very busy keeping her head afloat so she was not really conscious of how hairy her daughter was." Says she should have been taken to a SPECIALIST for being hairy and was "left to her own devices" and had to shave.

WHAT IN THE ACUTAL F is wrong with her?! Using funerals to sell ugly clothing. Throwing her mom under the bus to sell a hair zapper.

Lydia you can say... I'm very hairy so I like this device for these reasons and shut the F up about your supposed negligent mother.
Not watched yet but she’s disgusting if she’s slagging off her poor mother.

I’m from a single parent family and watching my mum constantly juggle the bills whilst working full time work on shit pay WHILST looking after us on her own gave me nothing but admiration for her. She made sure we had everything we needed and I understood that there was some things everybody else had but I would never tell my mum so as not to put her under more pressure or make her feel like she wasn’t doing enough. I remember everyone going on school trips and hiding the letters about it so my mum didn’t bad about needing to find the money for it. When mobiles came out, I was literally the only person in my year not to have one. I pretended i didn’t want one but really if was because I knew how much money my mum earned a week and the cost of the phone would have taken her weeks money to buy not to mention the £10 I’d likely burn through every week! I’m grateful as it’s taught me the value of money. I take nothing for granted and appreciate everything I have.

I can see why she has issues with her mum if this is how she behaves. Frankly if she was my daughter I’d disown her for being so ungrateful and so bloody inconsiderate.
 
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claredeloony

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Regarding her post about the book: is that what it’s going to be like? A half page full of two word sentences, and unexplained capital letters?

Brisk walks. Tweed jackets. Stodgy food. CONSTIPATION. Bracing air. Split ends. Pumpkin pie.

no doubt her sycophants will lap it up… But come on: I’d be embarrassed to charge people for this pile of crap.
 
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PottyPotager

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God she triggers me so much. How anyone can stand to work with her is beyond me. She always knows better!!

Watching her tell the florist from Hello petal how to style the displays. “That looks too symmetrical” “there’s something missing over here it needs more foliage”

she tells every hairdresser on the planet (well, those that she allows to touch her scabby scalp that is) how to do her hair, then touches the fuck out of it when it’s done, while they are still stood there having to watch

Her poor make up artist (and supposed friend) Alex has to watch while she grabs a brush and buffs out the work she’s doing, then tells the world how only she can do her own eyeliner as no one else knows how to do it.

even the bloody life coach vlog was 99% Lydia talking and that poor woman having to sit there and listen to her drivel. Unless the lady did speak but Lydia cut it all out so only her words of wisdom were heard

if I was any of these professionals I’d be so embarrassed and undermined, to be shown up like that to millions of followers

what a bitch, she has no self awareness, no empathy
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Is she saying that because she is human, it is ok for her to make all these spelling mistakes? That she shouldn’t make an effort to look intelligent? That it is ok for her to come across as a complete thicko? Because she is human???
What would the world come to if we all had that attitude about making mistakes? 🤯
She says this on one hand but then laughs and takes the piss out of Ali when he pronounces things wrong or says things wrong. She can correct everyone else but god forbid if anyone criticise her….bloody boils my pish 🤣
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…not forgetting how vile she was to Carrie in those Christmas vlogs, where she was rude about everything Carrie was using to decorate her own tree…it’s her tree, fuck off woman! This was the reason she stopped showing Carrie on the vlogs for a while because everyone was defending her saying Lydia treats her like shit

p.S my phone keeps correcting “vlogs” to Clogs and I’m here for it 🤣
 
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Evergreen: Discover the Joy in Every Season by Lydia Elise Millen | Goodreads

Down to a 2.1 out of 5 stars. No way would I blind buy a book under 4 stars, let alone 2.1 stars. Frow's book has a rating of 4.01 stars, and she actually composed and wrote the entire book herself and didn't just compile a bunch of quotes with the help of other people.

Finally, someone has mentioned the actual content, and it is a book of quotes written by others. This is how she has made the book so long. A quote per page, then a recipe per page, with Season title pages, and blank pages for the reader to jot down notes like 'Why did I buy this book' and 'That was a wasted twentyfiver'. #bookgate is going to be a bigger failure than Globy. I really hope that she financed the printing of this herself. This is a future Dollar Tree book for a buck.

Why would she think that she is an author if she just used other authors' quotes, and recipes that other cooks have developed? Sounds like none of this book is original work. I hope that @shabazsays receives a copy. His review would be fantastic.
Omg wow, of course it’s got a lot of blank pages and cut and paste quotes, shitney recipe and illustrations! Did she only write a page of word salad of her personal feeling of “rising from the ashes” per season and then just do quotes? I thought it was an awfully thick book for a few weeks of writing!

She should have just made a monthly planner and planner inserts with some illustrations and seasonal quotes for her minions. Then she could have gotten away with this. No wonder she’s saying to buy it for decor.

A book with so much hype that looks like a memoir to be a nontent is not going to sell in an actual bookstore when people can flick through it.

Now I can’t wait for everyone to get thier pre-ordered book and start leaving un-deletable reviews!!! If it’s a book without writing… then it’s no different than a tanning kit with no self tanner. She is taking advantage of her followers to pre-order without much description but the look of the packages/cover. It could be GLOBY all over again!



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Fixed the countdown announcement for us tattlers… 🍿🍿🍿


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muffintop13

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Welcome to another thread created by me and not @Miscanthus who we fully expected to be back before the end of thread 189. Alas it was not to be, because just before this thread was created Lydia managed to create yet ANOTHER gate.

I will not repeat the slur which has caused such outrage amongst us and many of Lydia’s subscribers. Suffice it to say she is a massive bellend and we all hope for her comeuppance soon.

Thank you to @Al Fresco for the thread title. Unfortunately she’s still on her damn stool for the moment, in her own mind anyway.

As you were Tattlers! I need a minute because the excerpt from Evermean that she posted today is so cringe I need to go make a stiff drink!
 
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Namima

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"Without you both, this book wouldn't be here and neither would I."

This is confirmation Lydia takes no ownership of her role in Hairgate and Globygate.
None. At all.
How is Lydia the victim when everything bad that occurred was of her own doing ???

Lydia chose to scam her minions. With the help of her employees. She chose to scam her minions. No one forced to put out a product.

Lydia verbally abused Nicky on that fateful day. For hours. Then rallied Cawwiiee to join forces against the then-pregnant Nicky. No one forced Lydia to behave in that manner.

Lydia hounded Nicky for days thereafter. Even when Nicky was in hospital ready to give birth. No one forced her to message Nicky over and over. You, Lydia, are responsible for your own behaviour.

Lydia herself made the WhatsApp group to gather 'troops' in an attempt to sabotage Nicky's business. No one forced Lydia to make that group. And message her influencer friends thereafter.

Lydia bullied Nicky (online - in vlogs and on IG) for over a year. With the assistance of Amelia Liana and Despina. Lydia made a choice to disparage her ex-hairdresser. No one forced her to. She looked quite comfortable in her vlogs complaining about Nicky. Lydia didn't stutter at all.

Lydia chose to not apologise to her minions for globygate and Hairgate.

Lydia made the vlog, on the insistence of Carrie, skewing the events of Hairgate day to give the impression she was assaulted. Your vlog. Your brand. You're the boss babe. No one forced you to make the vlog. And edit it. And upload it.
This was the vlog which pushed Nicky to finally make a statement in her defence of herself and her business.

The consequences of Lydia's bad decisions and lies are her own responsibility.

I could go on and on and on.

Did Lydia really think Nicky was not allowed to defend herself after sitting in silence for so long ??? Really ?

But, hey, Lydia's the victim.

The audacity is mind-boggling.


Most importantly.
May Ali forever stew in the juices of their bad marriage. He deserves every miserable minute of every miserable hour of every miserable day he stays. For enabling this witch.
Asshole.
 
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