Harry and Meghan #90 Philip didn't want a fuss so let's make the funeral all about us!

[Lady_H]

This is only my 2nd post but I wanted to say that I don’t really care what words Harry decided to string together for his tribute to PP. His decision to do that completely unconscionable interview at a time when his grandfather was in hospital displayed such a lack of empathy and understanding and care that it makes no difference whatsoever. Anyone who has lived through the last weeks of a loved ones life will understand how incredibly difficult it is, when the days are filled with confusing and conflicting medical information, and people calling you for updates, and your sleep is totally disturbed, and you know the end is near but you can’t prepare for or anticipate it and you don’t know if you should pray for the end or for a few more weeks. It is agony, and into all that H and M inserted themselves and their poisonous narrative and created terrible anxiety on top of what the RF was already suffering. I am probably too close to this situation but I can’t help thinking that they are both vile, and that includes Harry, even if he is under her thumb. Terrible, terrible people.

 

[Starburst_87]

Tried to post this in the last thread but it had already been locked. Haha.

It's human nature to want to forgive people who hurt us, especially family, but I don't think they should forgive him or allow him into the fold. I do believe he's in an abusive relationship, but abusive relationship or not, he's always been a little pr*ck, it's just that he's had the RF there to clean up his messes. Meghan may have been the one to push him over the edge, but I believe that he was waiting for an opportunity like this because he'd been wanting out for a long time. He's just as selfish as Meghan and a life of service and little to no recognition was just not for him.

Some things should not be forgiven, regardless of the circumstances or state of mind of the person. Accusing your own family of racism is a serious charge, especially in these times. He and Meghan basically accused them of denying Archie his birth right (we all know it's b.s. but it's what they claimed to Oprah), and removed his and H&M's security because of racism. That's essentially saying the RF left them under the constant threat of bodily harm or death because they didn't like the fact that Meghan was "black". I'm sorry, but I don't care how close he once was to his family. He severed that bond once he and his vile wife made those accusations. How can they ever trust him again? How can they be sure that another woman won't pull some kind of minge manipulation and make him turn on them again?

 

[freda19]

*BREAKING NEWS*
Uncle Elton's plane has touched down at a private airport. Baldy Dean Scammy Stott (spit!) and his ratty rooted wifey were seen escorting a mysterious figure dressed all in black off the plane, while shouting "MAKE WAY YOU PEASANTS ... ROYAL FUNERAL ATTENDEE COMING THROUGH ! "

Luckily the figure paused dramatically in the doorway and the waiting backgrid photographer guy managed to get a good shot (of her, not at her. Unfortunately).

No idea who it is. Not a clue. Baffled. A conundrum wrapped in an enigma.

 

[igiveup]

This set me off

 

[LadyMuck]

"Twitter"

 

[buflesse]

 

[Amelia99]

And it was all so bloody unnecessary. Before that fucking awful interview there still was a chance to mend fences and still stay in the loop somewhat. But they couldn’t see beyond their own self importance and selfishness. They had to try and blackmail the RF into getting what they wanted. They thought it would work, everyone would feel sorry for them and the RF would have to give them what they wanted. Big mistake. Whose laughing now dipshits.

Every decision they’ve made has been a mistake. Either they have crap advisers or they don’t listen to good advice.

Firstly never lay down an ultimatum unless you are sure you have the winning hand. And never make a public announcement which assumes you will get what you want.

The Queen called their bluff and took more things away from them than they had anticipated. In effect they were cut loose and because they’d already announced their departure they couldn’t really back down.

Secondly never, if at all possible, get into a fight with the media. You may win the battle but you will lose the war. When they see their ”press freedom” being threatened the media stick together and they don’t forgive. From the moment H&M fired the first shots in the media war there will have been journalists assigned to sniffing out every possible negative story about them. And it won’t ever stop.

Thirdly, do not attack your family in the media. Rifts that are wide already will be stretched further by airing private grievances in public. The Opra interview was a huge mistake.

They have now totally backed themselves into a corner with precious little support from any direction.

I don’t feel the hatred for them that I see on these threads and I think the whole fake Archie thing is total tinhattery. But I do think the pair of them are much too self absorbed and incapable of seeing how their comments and actions will be perceived. Harry is very much his mother’s son - very emotionally fragile. And Meghan is too American ever to understand the way the British aristocracy operates. Together they both manage to make each others faults worse and dig themselves into a deeper and deeper mess.

 

[SweetSummerChild]

Re Catherine acting as peacemaker - why. should. she..? Smeggy singled her out as a target of her vitriol in the interview. She trashed the family that Catherine is a key part of. Why do people assume she’s ready to lead the way in ‘healing the rift’? In her shoes I’d be incandescent. She’s entitled to be angry.

 

[kev1974]

 

[Rubythefirebat]

Welcome to the new thread! I see, you are still here despite advised by your doctor, your friends and Oprah to stay away!

Thank you for the title @spangly ! We may need your service to survive all the PR coming this week!

This pic by @Romy is all you need to know to recap!

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[freda19]

Familial forgiveness is a strange thing. Terrible family rifts can perhaps be plastered over, but never actually healed in my personal experience. Once people say/do something unforgiveable (which I suggest is what Hazzno and the Ho have done) if it is in the interest of other family members to smooth over the cracks then perhaps they'll do that. But it's never the same.

There is a Japanese tradition of restoring broken porcelain with gold, which I think is a beautiful concept. But I'm not sure if it works with people. If I were Catherine or Wills or Camilla I'd never trust either of the fuckers again. It would probably he harder for Charles to reach that stage.

There's also the story of the cracked pot. Sometimes a crack in something is not a bad thing and can lead to something beautiful in the future.


An elderly Chinese woman completed a daily trek to the stream past her home and back to supply her family with fresh water. In order to do this, she fashioned a heavy pot on each end of a long pole, which she carried across her shoulders.
One of the pots was in perfect condition and always delivered a full portion of water. The other had a deep crack in it, causing water to leak out. At the end of the long walk, the cracked pot arrived only half full.
This situation occurred daily for two years, with the woman bringing home only one and a half pots of water. Of course, the perfect pot was proud of its accomplishments. But the cracked pot was ashamed of its imperfection and miserable that it could only do half of what it had been made to do.
After two years of what it had perceived to be bitter failure, the cracked pot spoke to the woman by the stream. “I am ashamed,” it said. “This crack in my side causes water to leak out. You work so hard and yet have little water once you return home.”
The old woman smiled and replied, “Did you notice that there are flowers on your side of the path? I have always known about your flaw, so I planted flower seeds on your side of the path. Every day, while we walked back home, you watered those seeds and helped them to grow. For two years, I have been able to pick these beautiful flowers to decorate the table and give to neighbors. Without you being just the way you are, there would not have been this special beauty to grace our homes and lives.”

 

[the musician]

I swear to god, MM's fans are so stupid:

 

[elli-94]

Harry’s biggest mistake since all of this kicked off was mistaking a public relations firm, used to dealing with celebrities for the palace communications team, oh and also not using either and just “winging it”. They have been cursed with events beyond their control coinciding with their departure and subsequent endeavours. Covid fucked all of their plans, had to drop sussexroyal, financial implications of lost security, and the interview just as DoE got sick. They’ve had to resort to high paying deals with the likes of Netflix and entering into contracts that Harry has no knowledge or understanding of. Meghan is used to being a “celebrity” but had no knowledge of royal contracts. They were doomed from the start in terms of success outside the family- in my opinion of course

The likes of the Obamas and all of the world leaders coming out in support of the queen and out of respect for the Duke has probably scared these shit out of them (Meghan). She now realises that universal service isn’t quite the same as being a servant to your country. Nothing they have done has gone the way they planned and all they can do is try to back peddle. But they’ve truly fucked themselves by doing that interview- they didn’t just display their dirty laundry- the actually misrepresented their “authenticity” by lying and getting called out on it. Now they have very few options left- they will forever be remembered for shitting on the family as the duke was dying. Everything they said now looks petty by virtue of their timing. Even if any of it was true, they look cold and calculating and self involved.

 

[DarnIt]

Im not sure..........I think its a masterstroke to stop everyone wearing a uniform!
At the end of the day, its going to be a massively slimmed down covid funeral to say goodbye and show respect to Prince Philip.

All it does is actually show Andrew and Harry up for being so petty......And denies them to chance to put on their fancy dress outfits!

But i spose it does raise the issue of ''How to deal with Harry and his wife, going forwards!

I have a feeling that Charles and William would be a lot less charitable and forgiving, if the Queen wasnt there! Meghan hasnt got Camilla and Kate onside at all! I am sure Kate will be polite but I cant see her ever forgetting the slights issued to her in the Oprah interview!

If Kates recollections of the squabble about Charlottes bridesmaid dress vary from the Douchness Meg... its a long way back!

There is precedent for HMTQ. The QueenM loathed Wallace Simpson & kept that flame flickering for a lifetime. I suspect the QM was not taken with WS even before the abdication. Neat parallels with Catherine & Megs.

Can only imagine in the Ladies loo after the ceremony...at the mirrors gather two dainty ladies.

Camilla: ‘Fucking arse, my feet are killing me’
Catherine: ‘No kidding babes’
Camilla: ‘Gotta light?’
Catherine: ‘In my bag, help yerself’
Voice behind loo door : ‘Oh, can I bum a fag?
Cams: ‘That you Zaz?’
Zara: ‘Yo!’
Other voice behind a loo door : ‘I thought you’d given that up’
Zara: ‘Muuuuum, it’s just the one!’
Sounds of los flushing, doors open both Anne & Zara join dainty ladies sinkside.
Anne: ‘So what do you think of the show so far?’
Cams: ‘What can I say...’
Zara: ...Jeez, I though Wills was going to deck him’
Raucous ladylike cackling laughter
Catherine: ‘The night is still young’
Cams: ‘I’ve told Chas that this is the last time, last fekkin’ time we go through this charade.’
Anne: ‘ Too fekkin right. What a pair of bollocked brained numpties those two are’
Cams: ‘Just putting up with it for the old girl’
Zara: ‘Kaz, nice touch putting the picture of all the kids with Grandpa in the order of service’
Catherine: ‘Wasn’t me, it was the Lord Chamberlain’s idea’
Anne: ‘That new bloke, the spook?’
Cams: ’Ooo, he’s sharp’
Anne: ‘Ain’t he just’
More raucous laughter.
Enter Eugenie.
Eugenie: ‘Alright Girls? I’m busting for a slash’
Zara: ‘How you doing babes?’
Eugenie: ‘I’m going to nut that ginger git if he doesn’t stop pestering me’

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Lovely tributes

The Land Rover - brilliant!

 

[Octoblob]

The whole “Meghan’s willing to forgive and move on”. It’s such a typical Narc move to act appallingly, then be all “Let’s put it behind us”. Totally unwilling to take responsibility for their actions or admit they were wrong.

 

[Glaschelle]

The one thing about this funeral, is that it is a real wake up call for ginge and cringe about what they've left behind.

I mentioned this on a previous thread but there will be no more appearances on the balcony for either of them, no more state dinners, tiaras, no taking part in royal parades.

Next year, God willing, the Queen will celebrate 70yrs on the throne - the will be celebrations, street parties, tv shows, the whole shebang and they'll be sitting watching it on tv.

And that could be the first of many events - potentially the Queen's 100th birthday, 75yrs on the throne, the Queen passing away, Charles ascending to the throne.

And they'll be on the fringes of it all. Not in the heart of it.

The picture of Prince George with Phillip really hit home for me - how many photos do they have with Archie with his grandparents, great grandparents, uncle, aunt, cousins.

I predict they'll hot foot it over here as soon as wee Diana-Phillipa-Elizabeth is born to make sure they get a photo with the Queen

 

[MillicentMargaret]

I swear to god, MM's fans are so stupid:

Yup this is exactly what I was expecting.

A) He wasn't born then
B) The whole family didn't meet up with Archie there in the 4 months he was in the UK before his parents buggered off. Because his parents didn't want to do anything as "boring" as spending a couple of weeks in the Scottish Highlands (aka one of the most beautiful places on Earth) They preferred to hang out on the Med.
C) Kate wasn't going to post any picture she had with her kids and Archie for fear of being called evil or racist for using a picture of Meghan's child without her permission.
D) Why should the BRF include a picture of Archie when Meghan and Harry have made it clear they view the family as toxic etc?
E) Various media sources have run the pic of Archie with PP in recent days and they can't produce another one that probably never happened.
F) They wanted as many great grandchildren in the photo as possible because it's about HMTQ and PP not Archie.

 

[igiveup]

Sophie Wessex is amazing, such an amazing wonderful woman.

I think Megain will be very jealous once Edward and Sophie start doing more and more and they will no longer be relevant.

Sophie looks like a woman who doesn’t take any shit and she will protect HMTQ , so I think she will sort those two out.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/countess-wessex-tremendous-comfort-queen-23907712

 

[Kotare]

Re Catherine acting as peacemaker - why. should. she..? Smeggy singled her out as a target of her vitriol in the interview. She trashed the family that Catherine is a key part of. Why do people assume she’s ready to lead the way in ‘healing the rift’? In her shoes I’d be incandescent. She’s entitled to be angry.

Quite

They singled out Catherine for the worst vitriol. Or should I say, Megan did this. The attack was deliberately calculated to inflict maximum hurt too and the vengeful nature of it to me was unnecessary and quite unforgivable. I feel most aggrieved that Catherine had literally only given birth to Prince Louis pre wedding. Meghan self identifies as delicate/vulnerable in pregnancy and while she milked hers to the max, Kate was shown no quarter whatsoever. On top of that, the malicious cruelty exhibited to Charlotte was a step too far. I say bugger her. She can do the whole forgiveness thing but she won’t be forgiven at all.
One can talk themselves in circles describing this horrid situation, but essentially the family are dealing with an evil self absorbed and quite sick individual. There’s no reasoning with a woman like her EVER.

I do wish the Tower Of London would get back to it’s core business.

 

[SarahN]

Mia? She’s hilarious if photos of her are anything to go by .

Love the photo with the other great grandchildren where she has grabbed the queens handbag and is holding it ever so proudly

Edited to add photo.