Caroline Hirons

[rosemarina]

Dear My Employer

Please stop trying to tell me what I am supposed to do all day for my salary. I see you’ve already scheduled my weekly one-to-ones for this year, and there are also rumours of a mid-year review?

Z-snaps

rosemarina

 

[Slacalis]

Of course she knows.

She is the all knowing, all seeing, all trying, all experiencing, every continent living, mother of more kids than you, writer of books, website crashing, washbag flogging, pay-me-up-front-mother-fucker, queen of everything and don't ever doubt it.

 

[Girl meister]

Well, well, well. I saw this starting on Inst last night so thought I would wait to see how it unfolded. It has all the hallmarks of a Hirons incident.

Build up... cue the background info of the private message which one of her sycophants basically could not wait to tell her about.

In fact if you look at the original posters Insta and the whole post I think she was goading them (DE) about the issue so she could boost her profile with a post about it and she then struck gold with their Hirons reference.

(Look at me Queen Hirons. Look at me!!!)

Going in.... all the ranting which includes swear words for maximum affect to appeal to all the teenagers

‘I’ll deal with that Bumbaclot later’

‘I’m a fucking grown up’ oooo use of the F Word you’re so clever Caroline

Bigging herself up…. Telling them how much they need her not the other way round (delusional)

Examples of classic Hirons bingo

‘Too old to be afraid of it thankfully’

‘Mother of 4’

‘you may wanna call your mommy’(note the use of the Americanism as she was brought up in Mississippi don’t you know)

‘Leaving your 11 positive reviews up making you some serious coin’ Christ she believes that they are relying on her reviews to make a profit.

Tacitly setting the Hirons Cult onto the Brand….putting out all the drama as she knows the Cult will slavishly protect her

Calling off the dogs…. She then puts out posts to her Cult to say let’s leave them alone now, we are bigger than this. If that was what she wanted why put the post out there at all.

These people just crave the worship and attention there is no other explanation for it. CH has a cult following but half these people are deluded. I took a gander on the FB page and there are actual people ACTUAL PEOPLE saying she dealt with this gracefully. CH would not know subtle, graceful and professionally appropriate even if it punched her in the face. All she knows is shouting, swearing and aggressive.

I cannot see how a programme like This Morning would want to have someone on their show who is so unprofessional. let alone other brands working with her. Despite what we all think about the other Influencers none of them act like her. I’m not saying that This Morning is up there with Question Time but surely they have an image to project and that image is not a shouty sweary mad woman.

CH clearly changed management so she could improve her profile, but even she must realise that TV brings with it some semblance of recognising you have to tone down yourself. As quickly as this fame and infamy comes it can be taken away

This incident had some Classic Hirons contradictions as like most unintelligent people she can’t remember half of what she writes and so basically changes the tune to suit the situation

‘I don’t like confrontation’ numerous older posts saying things like ‘bring it on’

‘Once just once accept some perfectly reasonable constructive feedback like Adults’ Jesus the irony of this sentence alone.

I don’t need your money and I don’t need your fucking immature head of R&D calling me hostile’

This phrase is an absolute classic. Who is immature – you are Caroline by putting this out over social media in the way you have. You simply just have no idea.

I have said it before, swearing whilst it has its place just lessons your position. As soon as she started on the f word it made ‘her’ look unprofessional not DE.

Whether we agree with what this bloke said or didn’t say (as an aside I think there is no way he would write that about CH if that was not what the brand thought themselves and if DE think it you can bet your bottom dollar so do other big brands) as soon as she went in on them about money and using swear words she just looked like the ill-educated chip on her shoulder person she is..

Sorry for long post but WTAF.

Caroline I hope you read this thread because you are just a parody now.

 

[Tesla's Ghost]

She's seen them all? OK, no hyperbole there, simply facts. Let's try this logic.
Your lashes are the worst ever. There is no competition. I've seen them all. Don't @ me. They look like they're about to walk off, no, slither off your eyes, and throw themselves into a fire for everyone's benefit.

 

[SqualorVictoria]

All those she has sent it to already have overflowing bathroom cabinets, they don't need any more lotions - use one pump, forget about it til it's time to post a "declutter" video. If they were sent for marketing, why hasn't anyone bothered to give details other than a silly boomerang of the box. The influencer donation to eve appeal idea would be a fab idea, not a single one will put their hand in their pocket for charity.

Why pay when the plebs can do it for you. The annoying thing is that this box was guaranteed to sell out anyway (thanks to Caroline and her herd of fans) so it's not like the box needed to be sent to influencers to boost sales. Same with SH and the Liberty advent calendar. It's all just so wasteful and sickening

 

[Wobblehead]

There are people having these plastic bags shipped to Australia, are they insane? I would ship them a plastic Boots one for £20!! CH must pinch herself every day that these idiots drink the coolaid

Oh when I just checked the thread was still there, shouldn't be imo mind you. It is embedded in a thread with a photo of the bag called 'Any one else getting one?' (or something like that) from 8 hrs ago. I think it is horrible when a group founder is happy to encourage a pile on of a poster no matter how justified they feel. The poster has now left/been removed but her posts are still there.

is it me or is the woman out of control. Who writes things like this??

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  Caroline Hirons If I sold it for less on this run I would literally lose money. We had to fly them in to make it on time. You don't have to buy one. What you DO have to is not be a rude f'ing bitch to me in my own group. Insinuating I would rip off my readers is outrageous and frankly you can fuck off. See yourself out.
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Who replies like this. She is meant to be a professional. She had ridden in on the bandwagon of YT et al.... at some point the bubble will burst and she is quite frankly unemployable. She goes on about how she has had to apologise her whole working life for being who she is. Well I am not surprised because who she is is an unprofessional idiot.

 

[AmberSpyglass]

Caroline Hirons has a mouth bigger than the Mersey Tunnel .

She of the ‘do as I say not as I do’ attitude .

I don’t rate her skin care advice either, give me Dr Sam Bunting any day of the week.

 

[AmberSpyglass]

Just found this on her Twitter feed.. yeah, very grim. Unless it's one of your mates (SH) playing the public, then it's fine for the likes of you and that dreadful India women to jump in. Hello Pot, have you met Kettle?

Imgine having a public one way IG rant at Drunk Elephant because a private DM about what they really thought of you was sent to you.

Caroline’s not confrontational (thankfully) so she kept her dignity and sorted it out privately .

 

[OolongTea]

Hello,
I'm curious about and genuinely concerned with Caroline Hiron's credentials (or entire lack of?) ??

So, as a "facialist"/"aesthetician"/"beautician", where did she train?
What are her qualifications?
And, if her qualifications/credentials are legitimate and valid, is she supposed to undergo regular training to update/maintain her knowledge and technique with new developments, like doctors/dermatologists/dentists etc?
If she trained 20 yrs ago, does her accreditation expire? How does this all work in the beauty industry?
I have extremely sensitive skin and avoid facials/procedures etc because in the past they have done more damage than improvement. Simple, consistent skincare has helped rebuild my skin barrier, manage acne breakouts, and deal with pigmentation/scarring--it obviously takes longer, but I cannot take risks. Reading/hearing/seeing CH's approach to skincare truly frightens me because she is horrifyingly ROUGH.

If all her knowledge is merely from being on counter (as she calls "3rd generation" shop girl), can that really equal scientific knowledge that, say, a "3rd generation" pharmacist holds? Beauty department stores etc all have one aim: to SELL as many products as possible. Western medicine/any form of it is by no means perfect, but (in Australia, at least), pharmacists are very helpful and always try to match the right product to our needs. They often suggest a budget option--I've never encountered this in any beauty department store.

If her knowledge is from working with brands "behind-the-scenes", then isn't that still coming from a position of convincing people to part with their money as much as possible? I just don't understand how she can demand readers/subscribers to take her word as skincare law, when even doctors/pharmacists always practise caution?

As a reviewer/consumer, does she need to attack anyone and everyone who offers feedback in which a product she lauds failed? And if shew were to be comprehensive in being a reviewer/consumer, should she be so biased (some forums have even suggested racist) against K-beauty products? Would it really hurt to try snail essence and then say it didn't work for her?
I'm against animal cruelty; however, the way our capitalist world works means that all our decisions have infinite intended and unintended effects on everything, especially the environment.
I'm also not a vegetarian/vegan, but I still try to make conscious and educated decisions to the best of my ability--that's the best anyone can do? But I don't think CH has any legitimate grounds to be on a moral high-horse against Japanese/Korean skincare being "eww"/"gross" and the being the worst/only offender of animal cruelty, when she still eats meat, wears leather shoes and belts, uses leather handbags etc; if she has a car and it has a leather interior, animal products were used in that way as well. Paint pigments and dyes have always involved crushed insects/bugs. Using/having wooden furniture has and will always affect the environment and animal habitation, but using plastic/synthetic materials may solve one set of problems to create new ones. All of it is just so much more complicated than simply "boycotting" products when the problem is systemic.
LabMuffin beauty has talked really well about how silicones and plant extracts are not how they're made out to be as terrible and magnificent, respectively. Given CH's giant following, her misinformation and ignorance is deeply worrying ...

Finally, watching her dunk her talons in and out of jars/products and apply them on her face, I know it's only on her face, but when she does "her clinic" for "clients" [who actually pays for her treatments?], are her nails STILL THAT LONG?
Isn't that UNHYGIENIC?

Also, I still don't understand how Caroline Hirons is a professional in the beauty industry? Having a commercial influence is surely different from having a professional influence?

For example, with the term "beauty professional"/"skincare professional", these are the people that come to my mind: Lisa Eldridge, Caroline Barnes, Mary Greenwell, Dr Sam Bunting, Dr Dray (I know she's controversial regarding her personal health, but that is personal and the skincare information she gives is ace), LabMuffin (she's got a pHD in chemistry that is heavily used in skincare) and those of a similar educated background (whether it be institutional, such as university, or industry based such as with makeup, they have put in and continue to put hours into learning/training). They have studied, and continue to study, in their field and are paid to work daily for their professional services.

How does working on a beauty counter compare? I just cannot be convinced of her "authority", which more often than not is merely a strong opinion.

 

[Curio]

Caroline ought to be ashamed of herself, but as we can all see, she has the hide of a rhino.

Hungover Rhino - the next big indy skincare brand after Drunk Elephant has been bought out.

 

[Sln2404]

She’s sent a box to Stacey fucking Solomon. I’ve had it. I’ve literally had it. All those fuck wits buying it are paying for all these free boxes. *slams door on way out*

 

[Jelly Bean]

Sali Hughes and CH are so similar in their humourless self righteousness. Plus snake oil saleswomen. I have watched only one Hirons video and she got all angry and shouty about anyone having the nerve to wash their face 'in the SHOWER!!!' and not do her double cleanse with a flannel instead. Dirty slobs or something like that. Plus this sounds so judgmental and petty but I don't think her skin looks that brilliant anyway so why would I follow her advice.

 

[Alightened]

Why is she so aggressive all the bloody time though, she needs to calm herself down before she gives herself a bloody heart attack. I've unfollowed her now on You Tube. She's too up her own arse now

 

[TriviaNewtonJohn]

£290 neon yellow winter kit, this guru is full of s**t

 

[AmberSpyglass]

£290!.

What a fucking cheek , us plebs pay that and the likes of Candice bloody Braithwaite and Zoe bloody Sugg don’t .

Hirons is a saleswoman for big companies and she’s so full of self importance and ego she’s lost sight of the fact £290 might be what people spend for their entire family Christmas.

£290 for a box of potions selected by a loud mouthed saleswoman with nothing but an attitude and shit eyelashes, it’s ridiculous!

 

[Anafurlactic]

I honestly don't think she'll have been given the products for free from the brands for these boxes. She'll have bought them at wholesale pricing like any other retailer because that's essentially what she's set herself up as here, a retailer rather than an influencer. The brands are in business as well and I just can't see them giving product to her for free so that she can make a whacking big profit on it. If they did, more fool them.

I must admit, I did get suckered into buying her box from Cult Beauty a few years ago. A couple of the products were great (though too expensive to repurchase) but the penny dropped that I had been well and truly influenced when I tried the May Lindstrom Blue Transy balm. She had raved about that so much and I thought it was going to be amazing. I literally didn't know what to do with it, the smell was horrendous and it went it the bin. So this one is a hard no from me. And I'd put money on guessing that these boxes were at one point going to contain a Drunk Elephant product until that relationship went tits up.

I can give you a cast iron guarantee they were all provided free of charge. I won’t reveal how I know but just trust me on this one

 

[SavetheDrama]

I used to be a huge fan of hers, her skincare advice (many years ago) was very good and I found myself really drawn to what was once no-nonsense approach. My skin really benefited from it and I still use a lot of her advice daily (double cleansing, acids).
I had to unfollow her when she quite honestly lost the plot and started with the obvious peddling of really expensive brands, literally contradicting her old blog advice. It was really upsetting to see how obvious it was that she sold out, especially to the old fans (lots of my friends also unfollowed). Nothing wrong with her making a buck (since she was RAISED IN THE US!) but when she started going against her old advice, coupled with her frankly insufferable persona at this point (and her pretty terrible skin and hair!), made me hit that button faster than you can say wet wipe.

 

[LurkyLou]

I'd never heard of this woman until about 6 months ago and wow, just, wow. I apologize for my language but what an asshole. She prides herself in being blunt and "honest." I'd say hostile and for sale to the highest bidder would be a more accurate description. Hopefully that over inflated ego of hers bursts and she comes crashing down hard.

 

[usofake]

She has a face like a melted welly

 

[Jelly Bean]

Why do these brainwashed followers think she wouldn’t rip them off , do they really think she’s their mate ?

It's almost like they are pathetically grateful. 'Oooh! A plastic bag! For us! Thank you Thank you Thank you'.

Update: Someone did suggest it was a rip off and CH responded in her usual calm measured fashion. Told the woman she is a rude fucking bitch and to fuck off.