Hello,
I'm curious about and genuinely concerned with Caroline Hiron's credentials (or entire lack of?) ??
So, as a "facialist"/"aesthetician"/"beautician", where did she train?
What are her qualifications?
And, if her qualifications/credentials are legitimate and valid, is she supposed to undergo regular training to update/maintain her knowledge and technique with new developments, like doctors/dermatologists/dentists etc?
If she trained 20 yrs ago, does her accreditation expire? How does this all work in the beauty industry?
I have extremely sensitive skin and avoid facials/procedures etc because in the past they have done more damage than improvement. Simple, consistent skincare has helped rebuild my skin barrier, manage acne breakouts, and deal with pigmentation/scarring--it obviously takes longer, but I cannot take risks. Reading/hearing/seeing CH's approach to skincare truly frightens me because she is horrifyingly ROUGH.
If all her knowledge is merely from being on counter (as she calls "3rd generation" shop girl), can that really equal scientific knowledge that, say, a "3rd generation" pharmacist holds? Beauty department stores etc all have one aim: to SELL as many products as possible. Western medicine/any form of it is by no means perfect, but (in Australia, at least), pharmacists are very helpful and always try to match the right product to our needs. They often suggest a budget option--I've never encountered this in any beauty department store.
If her knowledge is from working with brands "behind-the-scenes", then isn't that still coming from a position of convincing people to part with their money as much as possible? I just don't understand how she can demand readers/subscribers to take her word as skincare law, when even doctors/pharmacists always practise caution?
As a reviewer/consumer, does she need to attack anyone and everyone who offers feedback in which a product she lauds failed? And if shew were to be comprehensive in being a reviewer/consumer, should she be so biased (some forums have even suggested racist) against K-beauty products? Would it really hurt to try snail essence and then say it didn't work for her?
I'm against animal cruelty; however, the way our capitalist world works means that all our decisions have infinite intended and unintended effects on everything, especially the environment.
I'm also not a vegetarian/vegan, but I still try to make conscious and educated decisions to the best of my ability--that's the best anyone can do? But I don't think CH has any legitimate grounds to be on a moral high-horse against Japanese/Korean skincare being "eww"/"gross" and the being the worst/only offender of animal cruelty, when she still eats meat, wears leather shoes and belts, uses leather handbags etc; if she has a car and it has a leather interior, animal products were used in that way as well. Paint pigments and dyes have always involved crushed insects/bugs. Using/having wooden furniture has and will always affect the environment and animal habitation, but using plastic/synthetic materials may solve one set of problems to create new ones. All of it is just so much more complicated than simply "boycotting" products when the problem is systemic.
LabMuffin beauty has talked really well about how silicones and plant extracts are not how they're made out to be as terrible and magnificent, respectively. Given CH's giant following, her misinformation and ignorance is deeply worrying ...
Finally, watching her dunk her talons in and out of jars/products and apply them on her face, I know it's only on her face, but when she does "her clinic" for "clients" [who actually pays for her treatments?], are her nails STILL THAT LONG?
Isn't that UNHYGIENIC?
Also, I still don't understand how Caroline Hirons is a professional in the beauty industry? Having a commercial influence is surely different from having a professional influence?
For example, with the term "beauty professional"/"skincare professional", these are the people that come to my mind: Lisa Eldridge, Caroline Barnes, Mary Greenwell, Dr Sam Bunting, Dr Dray (I know she's controversial regarding her personal health, but that is personal and the skincare information she gives is ace), LabMuffin (she's got a pHD in chemistry that is heavily used in skincare) and those of a similar educated background (whether it be institutional, such as university, or industry based such as with makeup, they have put in and continue to put hours into learning/training). They have studied, and continue to study, in their field and are paid to work daily for their professional services.
How does working on a beauty counter compare? I just cannot be convinced of her "authority", which more often than not is merely a strong opinion.
I'm curious about and genuinely concerned with Caroline Hiron's credentials (or entire lack of?) ??
So, as a "facialist"/"aesthetician"/"beautician", where did she train?
What are her qualifications?
And, if her qualifications/credentials are legitimate and valid, is she supposed to undergo regular training to update/maintain her knowledge and technique with new developments, like doctors/dermatologists/dentists etc?
If she trained 20 yrs ago, does her accreditation expire? How does this all work in the beauty industry?
I have extremely sensitive skin and avoid facials/procedures etc because in the past they have done more damage than improvement. Simple, consistent skincare has helped rebuild my skin barrier, manage acne breakouts, and deal with pigmentation/scarring--it obviously takes longer, but I cannot take risks. Reading/hearing/seeing CH's approach to skincare truly frightens me because she is horrifyingly ROUGH.
If all her knowledge is merely from being on counter (as she calls "3rd generation" shop girl), can that really equal scientific knowledge that, say, a "3rd generation" pharmacist holds? Beauty department stores etc all have one aim: to SELL as many products as possible. Western medicine/any form of it is by no means perfect, but (in Australia, at least), pharmacists are very helpful and always try to match the right product to our needs. They often suggest a budget option--I've never encountered this in any beauty department store.
If her knowledge is from working with brands "behind-the-scenes", then isn't that still coming from a position of convincing people to part with their money as much as possible? I just don't understand how she can demand readers/subscribers to take her word as skincare law, when even doctors/pharmacists always practise caution?
As a reviewer/consumer, does she need to attack anyone and everyone who offers feedback in which a product she lauds failed? And if shew were to be comprehensive in being a reviewer/consumer, should she be so biased (some forums have even suggested racist) against K-beauty products? Would it really hurt to try snail essence and then say it didn't work for her?
I'm against animal cruelty; however, the way our capitalist world works means that all our decisions have infinite intended and unintended effects on everything, especially the environment.
I'm also not a vegetarian/vegan, but I still try to make conscious and educated decisions to the best of my ability--that's the best anyone can do? But I don't think CH has any legitimate grounds to be on a moral high-horse against Japanese/Korean skincare being "eww"/"gross" and the being the worst/only offender of animal cruelty, when she still eats meat, wears leather shoes and belts, uses leather handbags etc; if she has a car and it has a leather interior, animal products were used in that way as well. Paint pigments and dyes have always involved crushed insects/bugs. Using/having wooden furniture has and will always affect the environment and animal habitation, but using plastic/synthetic materials may solve one set of problems to create new ones. All of it is just so much more complicated than simply "boycotting" products when the problem is systemic.
LabMuffin beauty has talked really well about how silicones and plant extracts are not how they're made out to be as terrible and magnificent, respectively. Given CH's giant following, her misinformation and ignorance is deeply worrying ...
Finally, watching her dunk her talons in and out of jars/products and apply them on her face, I know it's only on her face, but when she does "her clinic" for "clients" [who actually pays for her treatments?], are her nails STILL THAT LONG?
Isn't that UNHYGIENIC?
Also, I still don't understand how Caroline Hirons is a professional in the beauty industry? Having a commercial influence is surely different from having a professional influence?
For example, with the term "beauty professional"/"skincare professional", these are the people that come to my mind: Lisa Eldridge, Caroline Barnes, Mary Greenwell, Dr Sam Bunting, Dr Dray (I know she's controversial regarding her personal health, but that is personal and the skincare information she gives is ace), LabMuffin (she's got a pHD in chemistry that is heavily used in skincare) and those of a similar educated background (whether it be institutional, such as university, or industry based such as with makeup, they have put in and continue to put hours into learning/training). They have studied, and continue to study, in their field and are paid to work daily for their professional services.
How does working on a beauty counter compare? I just cannot be convinced of her "authority", which more often than not is merely a strong opinion.
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I did see CH wish Hinch all the best with her book.
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(this is obviously a joke for anybody who doesn't follow the Inghams thread)