Alessia would never thought to have questioned her little friend’s skin colour but her dad asking “is there anything wrong with that” is surely going to make her wonder. What a stupid thing to ask a 3 year old.
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MellyMel
Member
I just...sometimes....wanna...you know. 
I was a single mom of 4. (Kind of still I am, but I have amazing new husband) Anyway, I was left alone to take care of my kids when they were 8 and almost 18months. Oh and by the way, the youngest ones are triplets! How about that Anna and Jonathan.
Once a week kids dad came to see them 2hours. And then my mom or my godmother came once a week to help me.
Everything else I did all by myself. Because my kids. I choose to have them, so I have to take care of them.
They sometimes make me so angry.
I was a single mom of 4. (Kind of still I am, but I have amazing new husband) Anyway, I was left alone to take care of my kids when they were 8 and almost 18months. Oh and by the way, the youngest ones are triplets! How about that Anna and Jonathan.
Once a week kids dad came to see them 2hours. And then my mom or my godmother came once a week to help me.
Everything else I did all by myself. Because my kids. I choose to have them, so I have to take care of them.
They sometimes make me so angry.
DoseofReality
VIP Member
Jon boi has such a massive God/ Power complex. Him becoming an influencer has all been one big power trip. He tried by being in a band but when they fizzled out no one cared. He couldn't stand being in normal working environments because he had to take direction and work to other peoples requirements and no one blew smoke up his ass and told him he was a genius and promoted him to CEO with a millionaire salary. Becoming an influencer was his perfect way of doing that. Get himself a pretty blonde who loves the camera but is vulnerable and has little self awareness, sees the hype she is getting on YouTube, the money she's making and the adoration and sees pound signs and an opportunity to get his own ego massaged. There's a bit in the Stacey Dooley doc that Anna explains Jonathan's motives. That whole documentary reveals exactly who Jonathan is and how not having control of the narrative affects him.
Jonathan from day one set out on wanting to emulate the Shay Carl and the Shaytards. Even before having any children, years before Emilia and when Anna was adamant she wouldn't have children. He was always going to turn the channel into a family channel. But best of all it gave him the opportunity to play god, to influence people, to tell the story he wanted to tell and for people to believe about himself (I grew up poor anyone) to control the narrative. A chance to play out the fantasy worlds he describes as a child as an adult.
And he absolutely loves it. But he doesn't know when to stop.
He's trying to influence the nanny situation even though if they had no nanny for 10 weeks every video wouldn't be Anna in the kitchen and him destroying the garden both away from the kids ALL DAY.
He tried to influence the #metoo movement with his story about having sexual relations with a male producer. Not understanding that the movement was about WOMEN. Not at the expense of male sexual assault but because women were being silenced for so long.
And now trying to influence the #blacklives matter movement with the typical white line we can't be racist because we have black/ brown friends and our children have black brown friends who they sit next to at school. Again missing the whole point! He completely othered that child and for what for his own gain. And using his child to do so to
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As for the "I had a meeting with YouTube" as though he controls YouTube and has influence in the actual business side. All to impress his fans and sound more powerful than he is. YouTube don't even feel that family channels should have comments enabled because of the amount of dodgy viewers. Their content creators would have been briefed about this and told it was in the interest of their families. What do they do? They override it and turn comments back on. They cannot do without being fawned over and having their egos stroked every day. And is begging for more interaction. Blinded by it almost that he doesn't see the disasters he's potentially getting himself into.
How Gleam/ Belle PR are not having serious talks with them I don't know. They know who watches these videos. They know that interacting regularly with certain fans and building relationships is a slippery slope. They've seen it happen. Even if there's nothing more behind it than just being happy people are supporting you, there's a risk when you engage in more than mere "thank you's". But even if they said anything they're the sort of people who just won't be told and think they know best.
Outside of the tiny YouTube bubble you aint shit Jon boi.
Oooft that was a lot! Apologies. But it needed saying.
Jonathan from day one set out on wanting to emulate the Shay Carl and the Shaytards. Even before having any children, years before Emilia and when Anna was adamant she wouldn't have children. He was always going to turn the channel into a family channel. But best of all it gave him the opportunity to play god, to influence people, to tell the story he wanted to tell and for people to believe about himself (I grew up poor anyone) to control the narrative. A chance to play out the fantasy worlds he describes as a child as an adult.
And he absolutely loves it. But he doesn't know when to stop.
He's trying to influence the nanny situation even though if they had no nanny for 10 weeks every video wouldn't be Anna in the kitchen and him destroying the garden both away from the kids ALL DAY.
He tried to influence the #metoo movement with his story about having sexual relations with a male producer. Not understanding that the movement was about WOMEN. Not at the expense of male sexual assault but because women were being silenced for so long.
And now trying to influence the #blacklives matter movement with the typical white line we can't be racist because we have black/ brown friends and our children have black brown friends who they sit next to at school. Again missing the whole point! He completely othered that child and for what for his own gain. And using his child to do so to
.As for the "I had a meeting with YouTube" as though he controls YouTube and has influence in the actual business side. All to impress his fans and sound more powerful than he is. YouTube don't even feel that family channels should have comments enabled because of the amount of dodgy viewers. Their content creators would have been briefed about this and told it was in the interest of their families. What do they do? They override it and turn comments back on. They cannot do without being fawned over and having their egos stroked every day. And is begging for more interaction. Blinded by it almost that he doesn't see the disasters he's potentially getting himself into.
How Gleam/ Belle PR are not having serious talks with them I don't know. They know who watches these videos. They know that interacting regularly with certain fans and building relationships is a slippery slope. They've seen it happen. Even if there's nothing more behind it than just being happy people are supporting you, there's a risk when you engage in more than mere "thank you's". But even if they said anything they're the sort of people who just won't be told and think they know best.
Outside of the tiny YouTube bubble you aint shit Jon boi.
Oooft that was a lot! Apologies. But it needed saying.
You know, this family make me feel really sad.
They have four beautiful children - all the joy and the opportunity for fun and making memories that must bring - why are they not doing it, why are they not soaking their children up? Crafting, reading, going to the beach, doing puzzles, going for long walks, jumping in muddy puddles, biking, camping out in the garden, messy play outside, do they do these things but just not show them? I watched one of the lockdown blogs and Anna didn’t even join them for their picnic lunch, just plonked down their plates, left them to it and walked off. What the fuck? I don’t understand why you’d choose to have four kids and outsource everything to paid help WHEN YOU DONT EVEN HAVE A PROPER JOB OR CAREER.
When those kids are older, more self sufficient and have flown the nest, will Anna look back and think the time neglecting them to preen her hair, perfect her make up, get dolled up everyday for a day round the house, going to bed early, all the fucking dawn workouts, food prep, cooking, all the mental head space taking up by all of the above plus god knows what at the expense of ploughing that energy into her children. Will she regret it? I know I would. I just don’t understand her. You can tell she is engaged and disconnected from her children when she talks to them. It is sad.
They couldn’t wait to get the two girls back at school. All for the wrong reasons, they couldn’t give a fig about the virus and safety. It is all about them.
Also surely one of the joys of having dogs is walking them? I get they have six but they’re tiny; between the two of them they could walk three each twice a day easy. I understand having a dog walker if you worked outside of the home but these two never leave the house. I just don’t understand them!
Anna has a huge platform. Why isn’t she using it to raise awareness and promote understanding of issues she claims to be close to her heart - eating disorders being one.
Sorry guys had to get that off my chest. Feel better now!
They have four beautiful children - all the joy and the opportunity for fun and making memories that must bring - why are they not doing it, why are they not soaking their children up? Crafting, reading, going to the beach, doing puzzles, going for long walks, jumping in muddy puddles, biking, camping out in the garden, messy play outside, do they do these things but just not show them? I watched one of the lockdown blogs and Anna didn’t even join them for their picnic lunch, just plonked down their plates, left them to it and walked off. What the fuck? I don’t understand why you’d choose to have four kids and outsource everything to paid help WHEN YOU DONT EVEN HAVE A PROPER JOB OR CAREER.
When those kids are older, more self sufficient and have flown the nest, will Anna look back and think the time neglecting them to preen her hair, perfect her make up, get dolled up everyday for a day round the house, going to bed early, all the fucking dawn workouts, food prep, cooking, all the mental head space taking up by all of the above plus god knows what at the expense of ploughing that energy into her children. Will she regret it? I know I would. I just don’t understand her. You can tell she is engaged and disconnected from her children when she talks to them. It is sad.
They couldn’t wait to get the two girls back at school. All for the wrong reasons, they couldn’t give a fig about the virus and safety. It is all about them.
Also surely one of the joys of having dogs is walking them? I get they have six but they’re tiny; between the two of them they could walk three each twice a day easy. I understand having a dog walker if you worked outside of the home but these two never leave the house. I just don’t understand them!
Anna has a huge platform. Why isn’t she using it to raise awareness and promote understanding of issues she claims to be close to her heart - eating disorders being one.
Sorry guys had to get that off my chest. Feel better now!
I had to stop watching the vlogs along time ago as things just seemed increasingly off with this family and how they were profiting off their kids. I was so glad to find this forum with like-minded people, reading the comments on YouTube made me think I was the only person who felt this way! But now I think that even following this forum is too depressing. Those children have had their entire lives shared with thousands of strangers. Every birthday candle they've blown out, every Christmas morning. They've even get filmed waking up in the morning, eating their meals, and going to bed at night. People all over the world know what school they attend and can easily find exactly where they live. Surely they have a right to privacy, surely that's a basic human right for every child? No matter what their parents say , they are all too young to give their consent to this. I just think its so wrong and don't understand why more people can't see that. I think years from now, people are going to look back at these family bloggers and be disgusted at how this was legal and acceptable.
Apologies for the rant, I just am getting more and more annoyed that children are being used like this.
Apologies for the rant, I just am getting more and more annoyed that children are being used like this.
Just-opinion
VIP Member
One of Jonathan's latest TikToks is just trying to get clicks off BLM. Refuses to share a single link, posts one picture of his kids asking for them to live in a world of peace and a picture of a black square and going offline for blackout Tuesday, which wasn't even the point of blackout Tuesday
*Jonathan and Alessia are sitting in his office*
Jonathan: Alessia what is the name of the Little boy you sit next to in school?
Alessia: Daniel
Jonathan: Daniel. And is Daniel a good friend of yours?
Alessia: Ye
Jonathan: Do you like playing with Daniel?
Alessia: Ye
Jonathan: Is there anything different about Daniel to you?
Alessia: Ye
Jonathan: And what is that?
Alessia: *mumbles*
Jonathan: He's what?
Alessia: Brown
Jonathan: He's brown. And is there anything wrong with that?
Alessia: No
Jonathan: No
She was clearly coached to answer that way, wouldn't be a TikTok without Jonathan telling the kids what to do
*Jonathan and Alessia are sitting in his office*
Jonathan: Alessia what is the name of the Little boy you sit next to in school?
Alessia: Daniel
Jonathan: Daniel. And is Daniel a good friend of yours?
Alessia: Ye
Jonathan: Do you like playing with Daniel?
Alessia: Ye
Jonathan: Is there anything different about Daniel to you?
Alessia: Ye
Jonathan: And what is that?
Alessia: *mumbles*
Jonathan: He's what?
Alessia: Brown
Jonathan: He's brown. And is there anything wrong with that?
Alessia: No
Jonathan: No
She was clearly coached to answer that way, wouldn't be a TikTok without Jonathan telling the kids what to do
Greentrees
VIP Member
I have found an interesting coincidence about them having sex bullshit story timeline. I think they were filming cameo and left the kids to fend for themselves in that time. They are wearing the same clothing in the vlog and on cameo. They posted and filmed 9 cameo videos. Which would have taken some time. Fucking idiots.
CAMEO
VLOG
CAMEO
VLOG
Eileen_2019
VIP Member
Do we think they set Alessia up so they could claim on insurance? They're desperate to get the bathrooms done........
Hanban4685
Member
I'd pay him £16 for the cctv of Andrea's accident 
Literally just joined here to vent somewhere people would sympathise. And look, I don't have much ill-feeling toward them, I think they are good people, even if I disagree with some of their words/actions. But I've had to stop watching them since Thursday or Friday for various reasons, and you can all tell me if I'm being petty:
× Not mentioning the nanny while making a big fuss about all the work they have to do. Even with a nanny I don't doubt that parents would be busy with 4 kids, but don't try and hide it, and frankly, don't complain at all when there are single mothers of 6+ children living in flats and cramped council houses. I don't need to hear how you're struggling, we ALL are.
× Also, they CHOSE to have 4 children knowing full well how much work it would be - if they didn't think they could do it without a nanny, they shouldn't have done it at all. Or, alternatively, they could have waited until there was a bigger gap between ages to ease the workload slightly.
× The overwhelming privilege of leaving the hard jobs to the cleaner and then laughing about it. It was a glimpse of an attitude I can't stand. Cleaners are a high-risk group, if you can afford one, you can afford to pay them to stay home.
× (Speaking as a UK teacher) The utter selfishness of sending the kids back to school when there are THREE carers at home. Unnecessarily exposing the children, the family, and the staff to heightened risks of COVID. Teaching unions and scientists have been incredibly vocal about the dangers of sending children back to school so early, there is no way they haven't seen this news, and yet they've decided to go ahead anyway. It just reeks of a decision made to give the parents a break and nothing else.
TL;DR I had to stop watching because of the abundance of unacknowledged privilege.
× Not mentioning the nanny while making a big fuss about all the work they have to do. Even with a nanny I don't doubt that parents would be busy with 4 kids, but don't try and hide it, and frankly, don't complain at all when there are single mothers of 6+ children living in flats and cramped council houses. I don't need to hear how you're struggling, we ALL are.
× Also, they CHOSE to have 4 children knowing full well how much work it would be - if they didn't think they could do it without a nanny, they shouldn't have done it at all. Or, alternatively, they could have waited until there was a bigger gap between ages to ease the workload slightly.
× The overwhelming privilege of leaving the hard jobs to the cleaner and then laughing about it. It was a glimpse of an attitude I can't stand. Cleaners are a high-risk group, if you can afford one, you can afford to pay them to stay home.
× (Speaking as a UK teacher) The utter selfishness of sending the kids back to school when there are THREE carers at home. Unnecessarily exposing the children, the family, and the staff to heightened risks of COVID. Teaching unions and scientists have been incredibly vocal about the dangers of sending children back to school so early, there is no way they haven't seen this news, and yet they've decided to go ahead anyway. It just reeks of a decision made to give the parents a break and nothing else.
TL;DR I had to stop watching because of the abundance of unacknowledged privilege.
SunshineDreamer
Chatty Member
I have a little girl slightly younger that Alessia who has a friend who is black. Out of interest, I just asked her what was different between her and him, with no coaching. Her answer was “he’s a boy and I’m a girl’
Andrea opens the oven and twists the switches on it while Jonathan and Anna are talking. He's in their view while they're talking. Anna actually looks at him. Jonathan points the camera at him. They both giggle but are distracted and having a conversation about Anna's new laptop. Neither of them raise their voice to alert him that's not acceptable behavior. They saying nothing at all. Jonathan eventually escorts him by the arm saying "thank you" to get the oven gloves from his hands...
WHAT THE FUCK. On another day, when that oven is on and they have their eyes off him, that's a serious injury waiting to happen. Any parent with a brain knows that you use these opportunities to warn your kids about something dangerous and not to go near it again.
WHAT THE FUCK. On another day, when that oven is on and they have their eyes off him, that's a serious injury waiting to happen. Any parent with a brain knows that you use these opportunities to warn your kids about something dangerous and not to go near it again.
They make me so angry! Alessia could've bloody drowned! They left her unattended for who knows how long with a bloody bath tub at the other end of the house, no one would've heard her if she fell in! And he has the nerve to be cross with her because his stupid coats got WET, which he somehow thinks ruined them?! She's 3 and needs supervision from her parents, YOU BLOODY FAILED HER, not the other way around!
DoseofReality
VIP Member
It's a lady.
She has long yellow hair.
And scary eyes.
Her clothes are too tight.
She's always holding her phone.
She looks different when I see her photo.
She makes yucky dinner.
She lets me watch Tik Toks before I go to bed.
She lies in my bed and scares me.
She's a witch.
Poor Lessie. I've actually been worried about whether she went back to school with shoes that fit her today.
Didn't watch the beach vlog but saw some photos. I think the nanny is responsible for the sun hats and glasses, the towelling ponchos and making their picnic, when do they ever have normal sandwiches?
Theydid/saidwhaaaaat?!?!
Active member
Sometimes I wonder who the hell watches their crappy vlogs then I see a comment like this and it becomes real clear
Emmajayne1973
Member
Next thread title suggestion -
“vlog content is all death traps and tuna wraps.”
“vlog content is all death traps and tuna wraps.”
