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poppycat

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Always. So many new people come here and then stay on the strength of the petition and/or an IG rant.
I arrived here after watching the bizarre Sali Hughes rant on IG, came to see what all the fuss was about and to meet the *dreadful* women who were making her life a daily misery. So glad I did, I'll never forget those 2 weeks of lockdown meeting everyone for a late breakfast to watch DKL (sad little hausfrau I know 🤣)
 
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Harrybosch

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She has an entire shed!
Shed? Shed? What are you talking about? That shed was gifted to her by Tracy Emin's hat maker and holds sentimental value to her. It CANNOT be used for storing spuds. Suggesting this makes you the worst troll of trolls as well as a pathetic Hausfrau.
 
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lipsticktaser

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I love Grayson Perry and disappointed to see his wife commented on a JM post 😢


They fit her demographic perfectly. Lefty luvvies with plenty of money. They think backing her is helping the poor. They can live their socialist views through her.
I am well aware I am a champagne socialist with my daughter in private school and a house with more bedrooms than I need. I own it though. I had a hard time from the ages of 15-18 including homelessness, teenage pregnancy and as I've mentioned before my MH. I am not that person. I can be empathetic to the cause and I want other people to move on like I have. But I have no shame at saying I don't want it to be at the expense of me and my daughter. I want state schools to be the standard and think fee paying schools should be abolished. BUUUT State school was crap for my daughter and was making her ill. She is my priority over my political and social leanings.
I am her demographic (well significantly less wealthy as Nigella and the Freuds) . Someone who is relatively comfortable who thinks oh this is going to help the foodbanks raise awareness of economic and food disparity in this country.
Remember the token black. She is playing the part of the token pauper.
Jack is stuck. She has had no growth. She's spent so much time jumping from thing to thing she hasn't built any skills to further her career.
 
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Flumps

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Depressed. Want popcorn. Buy a bag of the ready made stuff or at a push the micro stuff. There is no way I would do any dishes. It’s a thankless task at the best of times but how insurmountable does it seem when you are down.
When I’m down it’s about al I can do to make up fish fingers and chips for tea.
Oh totally. I know everyone's experience of depression is different and I know that I am talking about a period of my life when I was in the midst of a full on breakdown that had been 20 years in the making, but still. I managed to make my child food, and it was the bare minimum that I could manage, things that could be shoved in the oven and taken out 20mins later, so I didn't have to smell it cooking or stand over it. I'd eat toast or cereal. And sometimes I'd order a takeaway, as long as it could be done on Just Eat, and by the time it turned up, I was often too fraught at the thought of it to eat it and my part of it would go into the fridge until I could deal with it the next day. I'd go to supermarkets to try and buy food and end up just standing in an aisle, feeling entirely overwhelmed, let alone shopping with an actual recipe in mind. I once had to ring a friend who had to guide me round the supermarket and out of the door. And I know, I know this is at the extreme end of things, but I'm sure plenty of people have similar stories. This book is SO far removed from my experience. I just don't get who it's going to help.

These days, if I have a bad day (and I am not talking anything as bad as I was) I retreat into my well-worn pattern of things I've cooked for 20+ years, or dig something out of the freezer. Stuff that I can do without thinking about, because I know I need to eat properly, but I need to manage what energy I assign to that process. It's not a time to pick up a new book and try and work out a new recipe, however simple it is.

I just don't get who this is aimed at.

Exactly, nothing with a mess. Basic freezer food is my max effort or pasta pesto. Why can’t she just accept most of us fo beans on toast, pasta with pesto and frozen peas is my standby! The whole small boy breakfast actually made me jittery. It reminded me I need to take my “happy pills” this morning. Just toast the roll and put some jam or honey on it? We know she keeps a kilo of butter handy at all times, so no prob there 😬
Yes. The mess thing is so crucial. Even a dirty saucepan felt too much some days.
 
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Raker

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Vengeance is mine says Jack:


In universal punishment for becoming a Chatty member, I’ve just discovered my garage freezer (only place where there’s room, don’t have 3, no Smeg or #kindly gifted sadly, etc.) was fecking unplugged by mistake on Friday. I could weep. I did swear.

Since then, however, I’ve sacrificed a few bags of frozen veg and fruit, and a long forgotten packet of scampi; the kids are delighted to be having some weird mix of all the back-really-late-from-work bung in the oven dipper type beige shit they love
and have been missing since I’ve been home to make things from scratch EVERY night since mid-March; I’ve got a load of stuff marinating, slow cooker is primed; and I’ve got a couple of unexpected pasta sauces on the go.

And I managed to do that without Twitter and within 20 minutes of discovering the fuck-up.

where’s my book deal, eh?
 
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CarrotsandSticks

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As soon as I had my first and my mum was there, holding my hand and rubbing my gas filled post partum tummy, all the slights I Had previously felt before baby just fell away. Yes, she was a money burning, drama seeking alcoholic for parts of my childhood but then again her mum committed suicide when she was 11, my dad had a horrific stroke when we were small and she was just 35 with 3 kids and a mortgage. She did the best she could and yes she messed up some of it, but when I needed her, she was there. I might have done what Jack has done and criticised her openly, but only in my early twenties and before kids. Having my own really did open my eyes. Jack hasn’t endured half of what most of us have, it’s a shame someone with such a stable childhood seems to feel so wrong done by.
 
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Bellybutton lint

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I'd like to thank you all for keeping me semi sane over this weird time in our lives. I have happily learned from these threads that all of you are wonderful and very special people. And very, very humourous. Some of us have MH problems, health problems, money problems, but not once has anyone dwelled on it. We have shared, which in itself, as strangers is quite remarkable. We have shared, planting, cooking, baking, cookbooks, shopping tips, podcasts and a plethora of many wonderful things. I appreciate and in my own weird way, love all of you. Thank you all for just being you. xxx



Saffron, pfft, Philistines.

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And of course @Flumps deserves a special mention for being a seed pervert like me. :love:
 
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chocolate choux

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I know! Not to derail the thread but Joe Wicks' poor mum just seems like she was very young and skint having kids, and was probably a bit overwhelmed, his childhood diet doesn't sound any worse than others of his age. Jack's parents were clearly decent, kind people who were comfortably off financially (not "working class" as she claims) and it's unlikely that she and her son "froze and starved for years" (direct quote). What is wrong with these people slagging off their parents in public, on forums where they can read? I find it quite shocking, especially as they're parents themselves and know how tough it can be.
I’m a huge advocate for breastfeeding but Joe Wicks is a twat, I’m sure his mum raised him the best she could at the time

I also think it speaks volumes that Jack’s mum is aware of her daughter’s poverty fantasy and doesn’t challenge it at all. I can imagine the narcissistic rage that would come with being challenged like that, even privately. Jack’s mum probably will do anything to keep the peace. Remember that bizarre tweet exchange with her mum saying sorry she couldn’t babysit because she was ill? I suspect she tweeted her rather than privately texted (like a normal person) because she wanted to minimise the tantrum

Raising a child is hard work and I’d be livid if my daughter made fictional claims like Jack does. But I can also see why Jack’s mum is biting her tongue
 
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Raker

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I find the whole recipes thing intriguing, how do these things actually get to print when it’s basically spaghetti hoops with cheese and pepper? A child could make that, surely that’s plagiarism from Heinz or something?
So, my friend’s sister-in-law was a home economist and food stylist for some very well known household name TV chefs (books and programmes) back in the 90s. As well as doing all the dogsbody work (chopping, arranging, washing up etc.), she spent ages cooking the dishes over and over until they were suitable for publishing. This is CLEARLY not happening here. Would the publisher take the cost of testing the recipes out of her advance? Expect her to pay independently? Is this why it’s not happening?

St Yotam of the Blessed Ottolenghis always name checks his testers! He says he’s so used to working in restaurant kitchens he really needs help to translate his recipes into something that can be done at home on domestic equipment, and logically and clearly describing the steps. He has said he couldn’t work without them on many occasions.

Do you think this might be why there is an absolute chasm of quality between Blessed Yotam of the Many Ingredients and St Jack Martyr of the Mushy Hoop ? (Also cross reference to cookery training: lots of vs none)
 
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OhhBacon

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Off-thread Jackers but have wee all seen this? Trolls?! How very dare she!! (She has just had a baby by footballer Kyle Walker if you’re not familiar with the lovely Lauryn) and she’s objected to comments about her on this here forum
I love a tattle petition share. Some sheep will sign it but generally it sends more nosey folks over to these parts and many stick around.

It’s a total win for Team Tattle.
 
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