Harry & Meghan #85 As the Actress didn't say to the Bishop

[vretch]

I completely agree.

It’s hugely unfortunate that he ever met her before she started dating Handbag...but it was slightly inevitable. He is famous in the US as well as the UK and is exactly the kind of person a bit part actress looking to increase her profile would smarm up to, which is what she did. She literally asked him to interview her, which he didn’t because she was nobody.

Dumping him without a backward glance is precisely what she’s done with so many other people which is the only point he’s ever tried to make - but if you don’t like him it’s very easy to invent motivations for his criticisms which probably aren’t true.

I have no particular opinion on Morgan...I never watch GMB or any of his other shows & I’ve never read any of his books. I did think his performance at the Levenson enquiry was iffy to say the least & I certainly think he engaged in questionable tactics during his tabloid career so I’d never vote him Man of the Century. I agree completely with everything he’s ever said about Markle but I wish he hadn’t said it quite so frequently...less is more, quite often.

But if no one else is willing to publicly tackle this barefaced liar and her neutered husband, then Morgan has to. Seems to be that simple to me.

I agree no one but Piers Morgan has the balls to stand up to that bitch. So if no one else will do it then there is no choice. Whats the alternative no one including Piers says anything in defence of the RF. Nope that wont do neither. Someone had to say bloody something, we cant pick and choose who would or could do it better, there was no other choice but him. And out of everyone who may rubbish him tomorrow there will be others who will be thinking....hmmm, now thats a good point he made. I fully support Piers Morgan in this instance and he spoke for me and Im glad he did. You never know maybe, just maybe, it will give someone else some courage to also speak out, we can only hope.

 

[Baguette]

She was not suicidal when pregnant..depressed maybe but not suicidal. Wanting to take your own life while pregnant is very rare. The protective instinct is at its strongest then and taking ones life would wait until after the birth.
She is a disgrace to be mocking women who were genuinely suicidal during pregnancy and the the big, open mouthed clown gor not exploring that one a bit more.

I'm looking at her actual words to Oprah again.

Meghan: And I was — I went to the institution, and I said that I needed to go somewhere to get help. I said that, ‘I’ve never felt this way before, and I need to go somewhere’. And I was told that I couldn’t, that it wouldn’t be good for the institution.
Oprah: So the institution is never a person. Or is it a series of people?
Meghan: No, it’s a person.
Oprah: It’s a person.
Meghan: It’s several people. But I went to one of the most senior people just to . . . to get help. And that — you know, I share this, because there’s so many people who are afraid to voice that they need help. And I know, personally, how hard it is to not just voice it, but when you voice it, to be told no.
Oprah: Whoo.
Meghan: And so, I went to human resources, and I said, ‘I just really — I need help’. Because in my old job, there was a union, and they would protect me. And I remember this conversation like it was yesterday, because they said, ‘My heart goes out to you, because I see how bad it is, but there’s nothing we can do to protect you because you’re not a paid employee of the institution’.

So... if you ignore how Meghan has padded and loaded the question, she just says that she asked 'to go somewhere'. Not that she needed to talk to a doctor/specialist/needed mental health support. No. She needed 'to go somewhere'. What we don't know is whether HR also said '... but why don't you talk to the Royal Household doctors/your family/your enormous team at Kensington Palace, and ask them to book 'somewhere' for you'

I'm still convinced that this conversation between Meghan and the HR department in Jan 2019 was all about the Australian tour staff bullying and resignations.

 

[Chita]

I doubt Sharon Osbourne will be invited to the baby shower.

She might send a little gift in a Tiffany box though.

 

[Baguette]

100 per cent this.

Piers is goading the universally litigious Smegz into a lawsuit. He's backing her into a genius corner: either what he says is a scurrilous lie and she will win... or, she dare not go there and has to let whatever he says be publicised.

Or, the preferred option: she sues him, all the scandal comes tumbling out, she loses the lawsuit and justice is served.

If the latter happens, I tell you, us tattlers had better take time off work/homelife/any kind of life for total and utter delicious thread meltdown. I for one, stand ready.

What Meghan's PR wanted was 'Royals fight back' headlines for weeks, to make her look important.

What she's got is Piers Morgan. 'Meghan v Piers - it's war!' is a major downgrade and tabloid heaven. She's going to be fuming about this.

 

[liar liar]

I don’t actually want them to lose their Sussex titles though I know half of Sussex is fairly pissed off so apologies to them. I just want the HRH formally gone and the line of succession changed to remove Harry and his kids. If they lose the Sussex titles they really will have a ‘woe is us’ drum to bang. Plus to most Americans, who don’t know much of the intricacies of aristocratic titles, all they know is a Prince and Princess is better than a duke and duchess so I don’t want them to revert to Princess and Princess Harry. Being a duchess didn’t do much long term for Fergie did it? They’d rapidly fade into utter insignificance. If they wanted their kids could still be Lord and Lady and they’d have to be content with that (or just pickle themselves in bitterness and fury, whatever works for them).

I'm in Sussex and I don't want them apparently representing this area which they visited once. They can fuck right off.

 

[mardymare]

A doggie diversion from c. 1994. Sorry - off topic but İ love the way the corgis keep popping out of the car like rabbits out of a hat....

 

[Baguette]

Prince William 'ends his 20-year friendship' with ITV's Tom Bradby

EXCLUSIVE: William has been left annoyed that Tom Bradby has sided with his brother Prince Harry and sister-in-law Meghan in the increasingly bitter war of the Windsors, writes DAN WOOTTON.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Thoughts?! True or BS?!

Likely to be 100% true. ITV, particularly ITV News, have stepped away from their duty to be impartial and have turned into a propaganda outlet for Harkles PR. That's potentially quite serious for them as a broadcaster, if the palace are minded to challenge this via Ofcom or other channels. They seem to have lost their collective minds over the Oprah interview, not followed it up with an equally prominent 'balancing' discussion and not paid any attention to fact-checking. It's bad enough for Oprah to indulge the 'speaking your truth' crap with the Harkles on a US network, but for ITV to decide they will allow damaging allegations to be made without fact checking or balance is serious stuff. Chris Ship did a kind-of follow up but it was really a figleaf and mostly repeated all of Meghan's allegations uncritically.

ITV are being put on notice that they will lose access to the future King.

 

[JAR21]

Shade from Piers: During his hour-long interview with the Tucker Carlson Today programme on the Fox Nation streaming service, Morgan hit out at Beresford, calling the 40-year-old 'the stand-in weather guy' and 'not a journalist'.

Piers Morgan slams Alex Beresford for 'pre-meditated' Meghan attack

Sitting down for his own tell-all with Fox News US TV host Tucker Carlson aired Monday, Piers Morgan said Alex Beresford's comments last month were part of a 'premeditated attack'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[freda19]

That is quite the claim from Piers though - I think it really undermines everything he has done so far and makes him look as flakey as the Harkles!
Even if it was true (which I'm not so sure about) there's no way of proving it and it looks like a flimsy brag! He would have been better keeping that knowledge to himself.

Why is it quite a claim though? I think maybe you and some others are reading it as if he got personal notes from Family members. I read it as that he received messages (whether by email or phone) from persons close to the royals appreciating his defence of them. It could be cortiers or frustrated aristo cousins or simply just friends the royals mingle with.
He's not claiming Brenda/Phil/William called him personally. They wouldn't and nobody with half a brain would imagine they did, apart from sugars, but their brains are only working on 10% battery at the best of times.

 

[Cassandra333]

Thanks for the new thread and cracking title. Why isn't there a cheering smilie?

I think they're waiting until the baby is born to make any announcements. If they do it now, there will be screams of 'upsetting a pregnant woman'.
I'm convinced the truth will out and both Harry the Weak and the Empress Megain will be seen for what they are.
Personally I think it would be a big mistake for Harry to come back to the UK. He didn't just insult the Queen, he insulted the entire country. He'll be booed where ever he goes.

 

[Scotch Mist]

Thanks. It's a shame the PM function doesn't work. Does anyone know why?

It's bloody annoying because it used to work. There are some posters who have decamped here from DS. I recognise some of them and they will go to any lengths to goad and get others banned. They will put words into your mouth and stir. Its best to ignore them.

And the Harkles are cunts.

 

[Rubythefirebat]

Welcome to the new thread! If you are new or need a recap please read the WIKI, pink on top. You can find timelines, pictures, articles, you can even add your 2cent.

Thank you for the title @Baguette

 

[JudithKuntz]

I just wish someone less controversial had done what Piers did. I’ve dipped in and out of the Piers thread and people are seemingly too blinded by their contempt for him to understand what he’s trying to expose. If someone more neutral had called them out publicly and to a wide audience with regards to all of their interview inaccuracies, things might have gone differently maybe?

I completely agree.

It’s hugely unfortunate that he ever met her before she started dating Handbag...but it was slightly inevitable. He is famous in the US as well as the UK and is exactly the kind of person a bit part actress looking to increase her profile would smarm up to, which is what she did. She literally asked him to interview her, which he didn’t because she was nobody.

Dumping him without a backward glance is precisely what she’s done with so many other people which is the only point he’s ever tried to make - but if you don’t like him it’s very easy to invent motivations for his criticisms which probably aren’t true.

I have no particular opinion on Morgan...I never watch GMB or any of his other shows & I’ve never read any of his books. I did think his performance at the Levenson enquiry was iffy to say the least & I certainly think he engaged in questionable tactics during his tabloid career so I’d never vote him Man of the Century. I agree completely with everything he’s ever said about Markle but I wish he hadn’t said it quite so frequently...less is more, quite often.

But if no one else is willing to publicly tackle this barefaced liar and her neutered husband, then Morgan has to. Seems to be that simple to me.

 

[Chita]

Kelvin Mackenzie on twitter asking why Piers isnt being sued.
The responses sound very Tattlerish.
(Yachts & moonbumps are mentioned.)




Tom Bradby's Knighthood won't be happening, then?

 

[Baguette]

That is quite the claim from Piers though - I think it really undermines everything he has done so far and makes him look as flakey as the Harkles!
Even if it was true (which I'm not so sure about) there's no way of proving it and it looks like a flimsy brag! He would have been better keeping that knowledge to himself.

I'd say its true. Piers has excellent connections, knows how to work them to his advantage and it's very likely he will have spoken to one of the RF press teams prior to his interview with Tucker. He's collecting a favour.

I'm also wondering if this is the RF reminding the Harkles that tell-all interviews can go two ways. If they ever wanted to get the Markle dossier out there on TV, particularly US TV, Piers is the man to do it.

 

[2ofeach]

Appreciate all the Piers updates last night.

I honestly think Piers was the best man for this job. Love or loathe him that Oprah chat was pure shite, defamatory and inaccurate. Oprah didn't fact check anything, WHY?
I can't decide who the bigger fools are, them or her, definitely not us.
I on this occasion like PM. He was royally pissed off and like the Princess Royal, took one for the journo team and called them out. The RF haven't been able to do so although we hope behind he scenes they are getting the tower ready for 2.
He can't be the only journo thinking this way so I applaud him for standing up.
Hopefully people are talking about this and seeing some light and truth.
He's got thick skin, he'll happily ride this shit storm.

 

[AudreyAnn]

Oh look, another greedy gift-grab and another totally egregious display of consumerism by the woke moral saints and eco warriors! My shock!

Don't worry, I'm sure they'll 'give back' to 'the community' by showing up for some photo op to hand out some sandwiches next year when they've recovered from their harsh lifestyles with another extended bout of 'leave'.

Seriously, this baby shower crap already makes me puke. Fuck off with yourself expecting endless gifts when you're already perfectly able to buy stuff for yourself. But a second round? Are you kidding? Have you ever seen anyone so greedy and materialistic?

I just can't get my head around these people, we are in a middle of a Pandemic, half a million plus people have died in US alone, and they are putting out PR about a feking baby shower. For Christ Sake, didn't she get enough stuff first time around. Are they too poor to buy some pink out fits for the sprog? You know I really feel like I am living on the margins of a dystopian world, It can't be real can it ??

 

[vretch]

I dont think he wants to sway people, it was more about exposure of M&H lies which was done in pretty details. I dont think anyone neutral 'boring' would get all this news coverage about it to make it viral or 'sway' people..

And he didnt name people because it was a personal thank you note, not Racist ACCUSATIONs based on THE LIE in front of the whole World

Well it made our newspapers in Australia. A full page all about Piers and debunking of Megans lies. A very good article and it made me smile. i dont know if America is all that important to be honest with you, it isnt a Commonwealth. I honestly cant see a downside to Piers doing this and as its been said before who else is standing up to do it, no one. So at least someone is standing up to those two idiots and seeing she tried so hard to have him silenced and it hasnt worked. Yeah, one for the good guys.

 

[freda19]

Harry and Meghan #86 . Delivery time! Meghan has her due date, fedex better not be late.

 

[Baguette]

Piers Morgan wants to give America 'full facts' on Meghan Markle in chat tonight

PIERS Morgan wants to give America the “full facts” on Meghan Markle in an explosive tell-all chat on US TV tonight. The former Good Morning Britain host is planning to “go nuclear” in …

www.thesun.co.uk

The Sun can now reveal Piers, who quit the ITV show after being asked to retract comments he made about Meghan, thought carefully about where to speak out.

An insider told us: “Piers knows full well that he is talking to a tough crowd in America.

“The majority of people across the States love Meghan and Harry. The Oprah interview sent shockwaves round America and, if anything, only made them even more popular and interesting to people there.

“But America hasn’t followed all the twists and turns since the interview - and Piers is keen to make sure people know what happened next.

“Some of what Meghan and Harry said has already unravelled - like the suggestion they were married in secret before their wedding. And the fact Meghan freely travelled the world despite claiming her passport was taken away.

“Plus some Amercians may not be fully aware of the Royal Family’s reaction to all of this and the fact they have already said on record their recollection of events differs.

“So Piers is keen for US viewers to get the full story and he of course will make his feelings crystal clear again about what Meghan and Harry claimed and speak his truth.

“He hopes people might look at the Oprah interview a little differently afterwards.”