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Sorry for the dumb question but I got sober before CBD entered the mainstream so naively curious - do you actually feel the effect of it? I’d guess it’s like 10% but if you ate the whole bag it’d be like consuming the actual drug?
 
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Fraus can I ask if anyone here is familiar with Birmingham? I’ve never been and I’m travelling there for a conference later on this month, which is exciting for me because it’s the first time I’ve been away since birthing my beloved SB 2.5 years ago. Can anyone recommend a nice, not too expensive, restaurant somewhere central for dinner? Somewhere independent like Dishoom perhaps.

Never did I think I’d reach the point in life where an overnight stay in a Birmingham travelodge would be a source of excitement, but we are where we are and I’m at peace with it.
 
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On a scale of 1 to 10, how immature of me is it to have a little internal snigger every time my counsellor says 'self-love'?

I seem to remember a couple of people asking to know how I got on with it, so since I'm one away from finishing my initial set of six sessions, I thought I'd put some thoughts down.

Firstly, I got lucky with my counsellor. She's not a disordered eating specialist, but it is something she has a particular interest in. I wanted a woman, I wanted someone of an age to understand perimenopause, I wanted someone who understood the peculiar challenges of living in a remote bit of the Highlands and I wanted someone I could afford (a friend recommended her Surrey-based counsellor, but at £150 a session, no way!). That filtered me down to three on the BACP website and I connected with her photo the most, so tried her first, and it's worked out.

Secondly, I have not binged for a month now. I've overeaten a couple of times, but that's been in the context of enjoying a meal out or finishing Mr F's leftovers because there's only a little bit left, rather than slumped down in my car in a corner of the Tesco car park, inhaling double-stuff Oreos, totally oblivious to everything.

I knew before I started that my issues with food come from my childhood, we spent the whole of the first proper session (after a short introductory one to see if we got along with each other) talking about things that happened that I thought might be reasons for some of the things I was doing as an adult, then session two was looking at what set off binges as an adult. Session three was talking about feelings around food and starting to log what I ate, but rather than thinking about calories, looking at what emotions I was feeling when I ate, who I was with when I ate, where I was and so on - historically I don't get on with food diaries and I'm still not a fan, but I can just about do this as long as I think of it as recording observations rather than attaching judgements to it. Session four was looking at what I'd recorded and then session five today was some feedback on a few things she'd asked me to try related to that and what emotions that raised.

She's brought up some really interesting stuff - she's not telling me what to do and what not to do, like a dietician would, she's asking me the right questions to get me to make all the connections for myself, so she's not setting off the rebellious 'duck you, duck the diet, I'm going to eat a load of sugar anyway' thing. Setting rules for myself or getting too restrictive with what I eat is a surefire way to set me off, so we're trying to avoid that at all costs, and I've been able to eat both bread and a very occasional sugary thing in the last three weeks without setting off a binge and without feeling guilty about it.

Still a work in progress and I think I'll probably need a couple more sessions over the initial six, but it's been so, so helpful and I feel like I'm getting on top of it for the first time in decades. Historically I'm absolutely rubbish at asking for help with things (also a childhood hangover), so I'm glad that I've managed to do it for this.
 
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One day when I'm not sick or poor anymore I'll travel to your lovely, rainy island and walk around with a big sign saying 'MCM' and wearing Pooh-Bear as a hat so any Frau will know it's me. I'll go everywhere I can think of.
 
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On a scale of 1 to 10, how immature of me is it to have a little internal snigger every time my counsellor says 'self-love'?

I seem to remember a couple of people asking to know how I got on with it, so since I'm one away from finishing my initial set of six sessions, I thought I'd put some thoughts down.

Firstly, I got lucky with my counsellor. She's not a disordered eating specialist, but it is something she has a particular interest in. I wanted a woman, I wanted someone of an age to understand perimenopause, I wanted someone who understood the peculiar challenges of living in a remote bit of the Highlands and I wanted someone I could afford (a friend recommended her Surrey-based counsellor, but at £150 a session, no way!). That filtered me down to three on the BACP website and I connected with her photo the most, so tried her first, and it's worked out.

Secondly, I have not binged for a month now. I've overeaten a couple of times, but that's been in the context of enjoying a meal out or finishing Mr F's leftovers because there's only a little bit left, rather than slumped down in my car in a corner of the Tesco car park, inhaling double-stuff Oreos, totally oblivious to everything.

I knew before I started that my issues with food come from my childhood, we spent the whole of the first proper session (after a short introductory one to see if we got along with each other) talking about things that happened that I thought might be reasons for some of the things I was doing as an adult, then session two was looking at what set off binges as an adult. Session three was talking about feelings around food and starting to log what I ate, but rather than thinking about calories, looking at what emotions I was feeling when I ate, who I was with when I ate, where I was and so on - historically I don't get on with food diaries and I'm still not a fan, but I can just about do this as long as I think of it as recording observations rather than attaching judgements to it. Session four was looking at what I'd recorded and then session five today was some feedback on a few things she'd asked me to try related to that and what emotions that raised.

She's brought up some really interesting stuff - she's not telling me what to do and what not to do, like a dietician would, she's asking me the right questions to get me to make all the connections for myself, so she's not setting off the rebellious 'duck you, duck the diet, I'm going to eat a load of sugar anyway' thing. Setting rules for myself or getting too restrictive with what I eat is a surefire way to set me off, so we're trying to avoid that at all costs, and I've been able to eat both bread and a very occasional sugary thing in the last three weeks without setting off a binge and without feeling guilty about it.

Still a work in progress and I think I'll probably need a couple more sessions over the initial six, but it's been so, so helpful and I feel like I'm getting on top of it for the first time in decades. Historically I'm absolutely rubbish at asking for help with things (also a childhood hangover), so I'm glad that I've managed to do it for this.
I’m happy for you that the counselling sessions have been beneficial. I don’t binge eat but I do have very disorder eating, I can appreciate how difficult it must be to think about emotions around food 💛
 
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Can I ask a question of some of our Fraus who are on the spectrum/neurodiverse or have family who are?

My sister was very recently diagnosed with both autism and ADHD (in a mild form) by a pyschiatrist and I was wondering if there is any reading material I could point her in the direction of to help her learn more or anything to help her with management techniques?

Thank you kindly
There's a subreddit called r/adhdmeme which is lighthearted and wholesome. It's not designed as a diagnosis or treatment page. People post memes like this, other people comment on sympathetic appreciation of "being seen", and it's a good place.

I acknowledge your sister may not be ready now for such a page, or ever find it supportive. But...

I, who am *not* diagnosed as ADHD at all but [very long story about nephews, my utter scattiness, new info in MSM leading to wondering], have found many "aha" moments therein, and used it to build some great easy systems.

GOSH I hope this makes sense
 

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Sorry for the dumb question but I got sober before CBD entered the mainstream so naively curious - do you actually feel the effect of it? I’d guess it’s like 10% but if you ate the whole bag it’d be like consuming the actual drug?
Well I really feel it but I’m not somebody who ever smoked, and I’m scared of booze now, it tastes like acid and pain.
I ate two one night and got a tummy ache. You’re supposed to have less than two I think.
I was enjoying getting a bit buzzed

One day when I'm not sick or poor anymore I'll travel to your lovely, rainy island and walk around with a big sign saying 'MCM' and wearing Pooh-Bear as a hat so any Frau will know it's me. I'll go everywhere I can think of.
Come to mine, I’ll get tunnocko’s teacakeo’s and dreamies for MrPooh
 
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On a scale of 1 to 10, how immature of me is it to have a little internal snigger every time my counsellor says 'self-love'?

I seem to remember a couple of people asking to know how I got on with it, so since I'm one away from finishing my initial set of six sessions, I thought I'd put some thoughts down.

Firstly, I got lucky with my counsellor. She's not a disordered eating specialist, but it is something she has a particular interest in. I wanted a woman, I wanted someone of an age to understand perimenopause, I wanted someone who understood the peculiar challenges of living in a remote bit of the Highlands and I wanted someone I could afford (a friend recommended her Surrey-based counsellor, but at £150 a session, no way!). That filtered me down to three on the BACP website and I connected with her photo the most, so tried her first, and it's worked out.

Secondly, I have not binged for a month now. I've overeaten a couple of times, but that's been in the context of enjoying a meal out or finishing Mr F's leftovers because there's only a little bit left, rather than slumped down in my car in a corner of the Tesco car park, inhaling double-stuff Oreos, totally oblivious to everything.

I knew before I started that my issues with food come from my childhood, we spent the whole of the first proper session (after a short introductory one to see if we got along with each other) talking about things that happened that I thought might be reasons for some of the things I was doing as an adult, then session two was looking at what set off binges as an adult. Session three was talking about feelings around food and starting to log what I ate, but rather than thinking about calories, looking at what emotions I was feeling when I ate, who I was with when I ate, where I was and so on - historically I don't get on with food diaries and I'm still not a fan, but I can just about do this as long as I think of it as recording observations rather than attaching judgements to it. Session four was looking at what I'd recorded and then session five today was some feedback on a few things she'd asked me to try related to that and what emotions that raised.

She's brought up some really interesting stuff - she's not telling me what to do and what not to do, like a dietician would, she's asking me the right questions to get me to make all the connections for myself, so she's not setting off the rebellious 'duck you, duck the diet, I'm going to eat a load of sugar anyway' thing. Setting rules for myself or getting too restrictive with what I eat is a surefire way to set me off, so we're trying to avoid that at all costs, and I've been able to eat both bread and a very occasional sugary thing in the last three weeks without setting off a binge and without feeling guilty about it.

Still a work in progress and I think I'll probably need a couple more sessions over the initial six, but it's been so, so helpful and I feel like I'm getting on top of it for the first time in decades. Historically I'm absolutely rubbish at asking for help with things (also a childhood hangover), so I'm glad that I've managed to do it for this.
Sounds like it's been such a positive experience for you.
 
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Ah, dudes. The MT has me in tears of laughter tonight. Feels good to laugh like that!
I met with the gastric surgeon yesterday, he thinks I have adhesions on my bowel which is pretty much what my GP said. I was told most of the endo was cleaned out last year but apparently it can still produce as I have part of an ovary left and my body still goes through cycles. Who knew? The fun and wonder of being a woman just never ends.
Send CBD-os to the usual address.
 
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Can I ask a question of some of our Fraus who are on the spectrum/neurodiverse or have family who are?

My sister was very recently diagnosed with both autism and ADHD (in a mild form) by a pyschiatrist and I was wondering if there is any reading material I could point her in the direction of to help her learn more or anything to help her with management techniques?

Thank you kindly
❤ to you and your sis. I have ADHD not autism. My son has both. It’s a headfuck and a grieving process to be diagnosed as an adult. Well it was for me anyway. I second the r/adhdmeme and there is also r/adhdwomen

ETA. This is written on the leaflet for my medication.
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@Emmapism My husband is reading a book called ‘Scattered Minds’ by Gabor Maté which is about ADHD. It’s to better understand and help our son but he says it has made him understand me better. I can’t face reading it tbh - all a bit too raw for me ( he’s summarising it for me! ) but it sounds like you are a sister that might be interested in reading it! Als the wonderful amazing brilliant comedian Hannah Gadsby has written a book about being a woman with autism and her diagnosis in adulthood. I’ve not read it yet as it’s only just come out but am looking forward to reading it.
 
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Can I ask a question of some of our Fraus who are on the spectrum/neurodiverse or have family who are?

My sister was very recently diagnosed with both autism and ADHD (in a mild form) by a pyschiatrist and I was wondering if there is any reading material I could point her in the direction of to help her learn more or anything to help her with management techniques?

Thank you kindly
You are SO kind to help find reading material for your sister. When I first got diagnosed with ADHD, some friends and relatives would send me articles or links, and it meant the world.

Here are some ADHD things I have found useful.

Information about local ADHD meetup / support groups. I was very lucky to find one near me, and met some brilliant people. A few of them have both ADHD and autism.


This website has SO much information about ADHD, it’s almost too good because its overwhelming, but it’s well written and trustworthy.


This video made me cry when I first saw it, but it’s a beautiful account of what it’s like to discover you have ADHD as an adult.



I’m wishing you and your sister all the best x
 
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I just got this. I haven’t used it yet but it is beautiful. It’s Cyprus but goes as far as the Middle East and the Balkans. Jack could never.
I’ve seen this on a few people’s instas. It looks so
lovely. I bought one home from the shop today called the hungry healthy student cookbook. It has some yummy recipes in. I realise I am not a student

Today I am mainly upset by the calorie bollocks. It hasn’t ended well. GOT is helping somewhat.

Finally, I found a video of a baby kookaburra but I have no idea how to link it. It was soooo cute.
 
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Fraus can I ask if anyone here is familiar with Birmingham? I’ve never been and I’m travelling there for a conference later on this month, which is exciting for me because it’s the first time I’ve been away since birthing my beloved SB 2.5 years ago. Can anyone recommend a nice, not too expensive, restaurant somewhere central for dinner? Somewhere independent like Dishoom perhaps.

Never did I think I’d reach the point in life where an overnight stay in a Birmingham travelodge would be a source of excitement, but we are where we are and I’m at peace with it.
Cannot help you sadly but smiled as I completely get the last part 😂 we’ve still not done a night apart but I had 2 days back to back socialising with friends (annual leave that needed to be used) and it’s insane not having to remain in a constant state of hyper vigilance meets final destination and maintain an endless supply of nose wipes, cuddles, and snacks. After about 5 minutes you miss it all desperately tho! But enjoy wherever you do go dear heart and fly freeeee 🐥
 
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Oh wow, that’s such a good point, and so beautifully put.

I remember when June Brown was a guest on Graham Norton’s original chat show, it was 2002, and she was AMAZING.
She was wearing a gorgeous outfit, drink in one hand, and a long cigarette holder in the other. I think anyone who saw it would become a fan of hers then if they weren’t already. She was so interesting and funny, all “oh DARLING!” and dramatic eye-rolls.
June Brown always reminded me of my Dad's great aunt. She was a trailblazer (finance frau in the 70s) and her husband was a footballer in that time too, they were from rural, quite economically limited backgrounds so not the sort of opportunities to come easy. They had no children and whenever we would visit their HUGE house in Barnet they would take such an interest in what teenage idiot me was up to and they spoilt their extended family and neighbours. Great-aunt always had a ferociously bright lipstick on, a G&T in one hand and a long cigarette holder. She liked a pastel suit too (never a beige .pdf suit)
I am also very thankful for them because they were very generous to us in their will and it enabled me, Mr Kebab and my parents daily opportunities for positive work and living we would never have been to have otherwise. I think about them, especially her a lot.

I used to vape CBD (CBD Brothers I think, Purple Haze vape juice) when I had awful period pain a few years ago but I think the act of doing something like vaping was more therapeutic than the CBD. When the vape coil starting spitting hot vape juice at me I stopped, forgot to clean/replace the coils and gave up. I'm not a smoker either, I like brownies but they don't like me. It didn't throw my cycle out of whack but when I'm synthetic hormone free it would take a LOT to disrupt my cycle (One time I got a notification on my phone 'your period is about to start' from Clue and boom, I genuinely felt it start 😂 and everyone clapped and declared it the best ever)

Thank you FruitJack for the book recommendation too! It's on the list! It is exactly the geographical area of food I love but for some reason just don't cook at home much beyond a seitan mouskhan even though I've done a Jordanian cooking class 😬
 
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Cannot help you sadly but smiled as I completely get the last part 😂 we’ve still not done a night apart but I had 2 days back to back socialising with friends (annual leave that needed to be used) and it’s insane not having to remain in a constant state of hyper vigilance meets final destination and maintain an endless supply of nose wipes, cuddles, and snacks. After about 5 minutes you miss it all desperately tho! But enjoy wherever you do go dear heart and fly freeeee 🐥
BIB omg this is the best description ever! I wanted to simultaneously give a 😂 and ❤ reaction.

Mr Beds has recently been diagnosed with ADHD. I appreciate each persons experience of having ADHD varies/is different but he said he felt a weight had been lifted as there was a reason for why his brain operates the way it does. He was recommended the ADDitude website too and it’s been a good resource for both of us. Though he did initially text me after a session to say ‘…they’ve suggested I look at this Attitude website’. Auto carrot 🥕 strikes again - wonder how many hits that website gets in error as a result 😂.
 
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