Currently no... I feel anxious and scared shirtless watching it all play out in the news. As a naturally unconfrontational person I don't like conflict/arguments and I generally keep my mouth shut. The anarchy and chaos is really very unsettling and we know the pushback against the blm movement is coming. I amount of highly visual division is worrying and scary. I don't know if the future will be better for my children. I've done my best to give them a equal/head start because we have the good fortune of being homeowners with no debt. But as keyworkers on a fair salary with 4 children. I would say I'm priveledged compared to most. Despite having 2 high functioning asperger boys. The future feels very precarious.
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Does anyone know if Clemmie made her comments about Candice before or after she did a podcast with her?
The comments about race were wrong. As recent events are highlighting even more.
But if she made them after inviting Candice to speak on her podcast. To share her personal experience and how black women were more likely to experience this purely due to racism. And then to make those comments? That feels really low.
Perhaps Clemmie invited Candice to speak for publicity rather than a genuine desire to highlight the racism bias in maternal care?
I’m a midwife so my personal beef with Clemmie has long been how she has exploited the midwife aspect for her own gain.
I started to slowly realise how she didn’t really give a tit. I messaged her a few times to ask if she could use her platform to highlight big issues happening in Midwifery. Loss of Supervisors of midwives and Independent Midwifery. These weren’t in the Press. Naively I thought that she had a great platform to share this.
She did reply to my messages but said she wouldn’t. It seemed clear her passion wasn’t supporting women and Midwifery but rather Interiors, clothes and other superficial stuff
The comments about race were wrong. As recent events are highlighting even more.
But if she made them after inviting Candice to speak on her podcast. To share her personal experience and how black women were more likely to experience this purely due to racism. And then to make those comments? That feels really low.
Perhaps Clemmie invited Candice to speak for publicity rather than a genuine desire to highlight the racism bias in maternal care?
I’m a midwife so my personal beef with Clemmie has long been how she has exploited the midwife aspect for her own gain.
I started to slowly realise how she didn’t really give a tit. I messaged her a few times to ask if she could use her platform to highlight big issues happening in Midwifery. Loss of Supervisors of midwives and Independent Midwifery. These weren’t in the Press. Naively I thought that she had a great platform to share this.
She did reply to my messages but said she wouldn’t. It seemed clear her passion wasn’t supporting women and Midwifery but rather Interiors, clothes and other superficial stuff
Hi. So sweet of you. You don't need to apologise I don't think I actually blame anyone or anything. I'm not particularly upset or angry about my life or the opportunities I've had. I accept my life and feel content with most things. I just hope the future is better for the next generation. Before we are torn apart by greedy exploitative companies and individuals who dehumanise human beings.Wow. That’s so humbling and frighteningly sad. I’m sorry you’ve been made to feel that way. I’m sorry on behalf of white people and I’m sorry we haven’t done enough to make your life equal. I can only hope that this spark we are currently seeing triggers some real change
Yes clemmie was all in it for her own personal gain. There are so many issues she could have highlighted in regard to NHS, midwifery and the state of pay and working conditions for nurses. She wasn't even a particularly experienced midwife.
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I hope things change. I mean... I have only just learnt the things you have described and now I won’t be able to un- see them.
I think if Clemmie got caught making those comments now she would be publicly fired. There is no way the NHS could not make a statement on it
I think if Clemmie got caught making those comments now she would be publicly fired. There is no way the NHS could not make a statement on it
Candice was violently abused by a midwife?!
I think the EDL and BNP types attempted a pushback by "protecting the statues" but I think that's blew up in their faces - when they reverted back to their default setting of thuggery x
Everything that's happening right now is so stressful and triggering. All the in your face stuff I endured as a teen and all the exclusion in the school playground as a mum. The stuff at work. I feel that I know exactly what sort of woman Clemmie Hooper is, and I really hope that we can see a real change in Britain, I almost feel it's possible (if I don't watch or listen to today's news.)
I agree with @CookieCrumble. I believe that Clemmie is a racist and that fact that she's a midwife (so far non censured) has me staggered. Clemmie deliberately used CB. Yeah, CB is problematic, but that has no bearing on the particular issue at hand. None at all.
I agree with @CookieCrumble. I believe that Clemmie is a racist and that fact that she's a midwife (so far non censured) has me staggered. Clemmie deliberately used CB. Yeah, CB is problematic, but that has no bearing on the particular issue at hand. None at all.
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By Clemmie. I really believe that a midwife posting those comments, when she knew how badly wrong a birth had gone, is an act of violence.
I’m sorry that has happened.
AND I’m sorry to be Bringing it to this space as well as it being everywhere else, it must be bleeping exhausting
The Robert Milligan statue that was removed, I walked past it often. Barely noticed it or took note of who it was. I think plaques acknowledging history truthfully is what is required. Times were very very different then. No need to vandalise or remove historical figures. It won't erase the past or the hurt people feel.
You may believe that, but your wording is dangerous! In the context of your post it could have been taken as misleading and slanderous!
Clemmie is racist whether she believes she is or not, but the subconscious and inherent racism is there. She verbally racially abused Candice under the cover of another name.
Ok yes I appreciate that, thanks for flagging.
I Don’t really have the words to describe the seriousness of what she did though - I brushed it off before as trolling, almost fair game for putting yourself out there as an influencer. It was all delicious and exciting to read! But now I see how harmful it was - on so many levels. Violence seemed appropriate but I take your point!
A guide to DARVO, the gaslighting response people give when they're called out
Once you know DARVO, you'll see it in every celeb statement in response to backlash.
metro.co.uk
This was posted over on Susie Verrill’s thread and thought it really highlighted how the majority of influencers respond to being called out and echoed how both Clemmie and Slymon have responded in the past (and suspect they will in the future). While it’s not a surprise, seeing it all spelt out so to speak really reinforces how little this behaviour is called out by those around them etc.
I’d like to think the influencer world is opening its eyes as much of the rest of us but given Susie’s response I fear they’ll all continue to peddle out this type of response and the huns will remain as blinkered as ever.
ETA: I can’t remember who it was who contacted FOD following the IWD post but the response they received from him was this entirely wasn’t it?
I don't have much to add to your excellent post except I'm sorry - it's really tit that you don't have the options that you and your children should have. And this white washing of parenthood is just disgusting. I can't bear it.
He was online on the FOD account yesterday. It shows in my DMs.
Wow. There's absolutely nothing about these two that don't leave me speechless. You are so right about her using her weekly shift to make a plaform for herself to receive freebies and attend premieres and nothing else. She was never about supporting women. There are SO many critical issues in midwifery. It's not just 'catching babies', it's political. Do you remember the Albany Miwives working out of King's that got shut down? What about the axing of the midwifery bursary? She could have used her platform for so much but instead she used it for free holidays. What a piece of tit she is. Sorry, but it makes me so angry.
Not much else to say other than I’m sorry you feel you cannot give your kids a countryside / seaside lifestyle and I do see where you’re coming from (living in a seaside town myself which is rather diverse but still largely white) and sadly there are many people who are so sure of being better than others just because they’re British or white or went to certain uni or whatever entitles them... I’ve been verbally attacked for not being a Brit, not offered jobs for not being a bloke, even been looked down by my own in-laws who when came to our wedding in my home country were surprised it was all so civilised (!) and that has stuck with me and don’t want my girl to ever have to live through it. The worrying thing is I don’t think some of that even crosses people’s mind as bias or discrimination - is just the way things are. I can’t even start to comprehend what’s like to grow up being subject to that constantly (consciously or unconsciously), it makes me sad. And it makes me angry when people dish comments out like CH or others did and then take no accountability for it
Absolutely can't understand being on the end of xenophobia or racism but sexism is a big one for me.
I work in a predominantly male environment. Once a few years ago an older gentleman visited my work... (my dad is the boss
) he looked around as I and another female colleague stood in front of him - "is there no-one here?" We look at each other.... it appears not. Long story short, we provided him with what he required from the business.... and charged him three times the regular amount - my dad's response? "Well that's the price of sexism"Another time, I had to remind a client to talk and discuss his requirements with me (I was answering emails by name, he insisted on using my dad's name and directed his queries to him" as I will be the one doing the work for you!
Boss's daughter privilege maybe.... but battling this and adding skin colour and racism to the mix is unfathomable
Do you think they will call it a day like Mrs Meldrum who has deleted all her social media accounts 
NoDo you think they will call it a day like Mrs Meldrum who has deleted all her social media accounts
I imagine she viewed her ten hour shift a week or whatever it was as an odious task that had to be done so that she could keep her USP and garner all the freebies.
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