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Just William

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an interesting read compared to what Alice is doing. They mention men need to stop doing this.
I'm not ignoring the fact that women are statistically more at risk of the kind of behaviour discussed in that article just as they are statistically more often the victims of DV & worse. I'm a woman but it's high time society acknowledged that DV can & does happen to men too.

It may not affect men at the same rate as it does women but to ignore the fact it does happen is doing male victims a huge disservice & helps feeds the continuing stigma about a man being a DV victim in the first place. This makes it much harder for men to come forward. The shame they must feel due to society's stereotyping of men & women & the mockery they likely face is a huge barrier to men admitting even to loved ones they have been abused.

I remember a tweet mocking Yo & dismissing his claim as a lie using a mans physical strength as the reason it was a lie.
DV doesn't always mean physical harm. There are plenty of other ways to truly harm people that don't leave visible scars.
Not to mention male victims of a female's physical violence often don't hit back as not all men think hitting a woman is acceptable, even in self defence.

Where is a similar article condemning female abusers? An article condemning mAlice for her long term abuse & the supporters who encourage her & continue it on SM on her behalf? Where is an article highlighting her DV abuse of Yo shown in 113 pages of documented proof not to mention the TRO & the fact he needed a police escort when he went back to the house to collect his things?

The bile she spewed on SM after he left & prior to the TRO was largely overlooked/ignored simply because she's a woman & got a free pass for her disgusting behaviour as she was viewed as the poor broken hearted wife, blah blah blah.
Reverse the sexes & Yo would have been crucified in the media.

I think Yo is incredibly brave admitting he was a victim of DV. This wouldn't have been an easy decision, not least because he's a very private person but she has turned their divorce into a media shitstorm & I imagine he also thought of the girls.
Whether it hinders his career remains to be seen but I really hope not as that would be to victimise him all over again & he's suffered enough.
It would be good to think that his case might be a good place for society to start seriously addressing female to male abuse, openly accept it does happen & call it out for what it is. Abuse. No excuses just because the perpetrator has a womb. ETA sadly, I'm not holding my breath.
 
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Treacletrixter

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Post RO prediction

When it is granted, Alice and Lupaper will make a new pronouncement. This is not the true story, Alice was not allowed to present all her evidence and your support that showed she was the victim of a psychopath who manipulated and gaslit the courts. This is not over. We will tell all soon. She has been silenced on SM and by the courts. She is alone and unable to speak her truth.
 
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Jemadah

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I don’t think anyone here has ever said Bianca has fallen out of a rainbow. Some of us don’t believe they will run the course, and there may even be faint suspicion about the film, including funding and the timing of announcements. Pretty sure none of us thinks she’s perfect. But she seems a nice person from what she chooses to share, unlike Alice and what she chooses to share. It’s all we have to go on.
The thing is, plenty of us here aren't Ioan or Bianca fangirls and boys. What we are is anti-Alice. And therefore plenty of us seriously couldn't care less about Ioan's sexuality or whether he and Bianca last - the important thing is that with her help he's escaped Squirrel Nutjob and can be happy again.
 
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veevee04

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Can I just say Alice nobody cares about your divorce there's millions of problems going on in the world , people are being killed so they can be free, the whole world is turning to shit . Be grateful you have 2 healthy children , a roof over your head and warm food in your stomach. Get the fuck over it.
 
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katylouclay

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oh wow, I just saw Lupine's take on the importance of tanks in the war. Is there any topic this dude tweets about where he has any clue what he is talking about?



gets absolutely murdered for this in replies and quoted posts


Somehow makes me feel at ease that this is who Alice trusts :ROFLMAO:
Yeah I was watching that thread, and others he’s commenting on, earlier. It’s safe to say, AE has aligned herself with one of the greatest minds in this world… IG should be quaking in his boots, with one eye cast back for the hot breath that’s right on him. 🤦‍♀️

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“Always willing to admit when I’m wrong”? Apart from when you’re wrong?
But what I really want to know Loops is, if you can’t endure wankers with an attitude, how do you live with yourself?
 
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Lizzymint

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The Lupine post is false bravado, I think he’s been told to STFU . Both he and AE made a massive mistake when she gave him the information that Ioan was in the uk and Lupidiot shared it on Twitter. This was evidence that she was feeding him information directly …. Not a good move guys 🤔
 
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SusanC

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I think their marriage had problems , as marriages more often than not do - and that Alice actually sugar coated that, perhaps for a long time, with her 'feeling joy every day' (to paraphrase) type recollections.
Who knows what SHE had to put up with, behind the public photos.

Yes, she does seem to have 'let herself go' 😱 somewhat and I wonder if it's simply this that has resulted in Ioan getting 'bored'.
Although I don't think Alice is quite the superbrain she thinks she is - she seems to think what mainstream media dictates at any given time - she's a 53 year old woman (so probably menopausal 😱😩), has health problems - and yes, fibromyalgia IS real and can be very debilitating, I have it - and has just been discarded by her partner of 20 years and been told (it seems) that he wants her and their 2 children out of the family home.(Btw, why the hell SHOULD she 'get off her ass and get a job'? She's a MOTHER to two young girls and has a house to run with, it seems, no paid help anymore. Yes, I know, I'd bloody love paid help ..)
Clearly you haven't read much in the months you've been lurking.
 
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welp

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(I tend to suspect there's no intimacy between them outside IG fangirls' heads)
now now, it's our Alice that non-stop described how she imagines IG/BW's sex-life, even with a poem :p
she might be wise not to contemplate having a family with him and instead cultivate into old age her virginal innocence role, for fear she and her widening thighs and hips cause him to find her as repulsive as he appears to find AE
wtf did I just read

also his pose in that photo is normal?

(the Piers interview indeed was awkward)
The way she is using those children to make herself look the victim absolutely sickens me. An eight year old does not have the capacity to think in this way. An eight year old would say your look pretty. She really is a dreadful Mother all round. What a terrible role model for those girls!
if a 7 year old thinks this sort of stuff it always makes me question what is said in this house by the parents
 
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ButterTart

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Who said she'd manage to twist the bombing of the Ukraine into being about her divorce? She's half way there.
Guilty.

If she believes in standing up to bullies she shouldn’t be shocked that Ioan is standing up to her.

Also, why is it so hard for her not to badmouth him? She has to try so, so hard…
 
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NarcRage

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i think the photo was a tell … not an indication of how much the girls love Gloria, but I think she has gotten Gloria to be a witness. To what, who knows. And she hasn’t mentioned or posted a photo of Gloria in a long time. Now she does it, at the same time as she is gloating?

I still think if she had anything concrete against Ioan, she would have put it in the response to the TRO, but maybe that’s just what I would have done.
She's excited because Gloria has confirmed that she will testify that Ioan doesn't like animals.
Therefore a judge will immediately give her EVERYTHING and deport Bianca.
 
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PinkyWinky

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And I'm positive they are "sleeping" together. 🙄
I’m not one to gossip obviously, but I heard their wild nights of unbridled passion are the talk of the village. The old Gruffudd house is shaking from dusk until dawn. They’ll have to replaster the whole building at this rate.
 
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slidders

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Wow….where to start.
Look at his hand, in his pocket. What's it doing? Cheap suit with shallow pockets? Or is his hand clenched into a fist regardless of pocket-depth?

AE's expression looks sad, despite the smile (and look at the size of his head compared to hers which isn't even small)

IG looks the same as he does in many photos: smug, full of his own self-delight, mummy's pretty little boy

They must have decided on this pose in advance, with her for some reason portraying the big-sister role. I used to believe AE had a strongly masculine presence. But now, I suspect it's more a case of IG having a strong little-girl presence

Why is his hand in his pocket? And should we guess it's the same with his other hand?

Why aren't his arms around her? I mean, ask yourself why. And this isn't the only photo of this kind featuring the pair of them. Compare it to photos of yourself with your man at the time. Would he have stood with his hands in his pockets? What would you have thought if he had? Do your daughter's husband or lover stand like a tin-god with his hands in his pockets as she hugs him? What would you think if he did? Be honest

Remember the interview in the garden with AE, IG and Piers Morgan? Remember little boy IG clutching AE's hand throughout? It looked awkward as hell and made him look like a mentally deficient idiot who was reliant on hanging onto AE-Mum as if his life depended on it. What was that about and why didn't Piers or the photographer quit filming to explain that in order to get the three of them in the shot, they were being compelled to show IG leaning far over in order to hold AE's hand which would look strange to viewers, particularly as IG seemed incapable of existing on his own in his own chair and as AE was seemingly so accustomed to IG's clinginess and so sensitive to his needs that she tolerated the sheer unmanliness of him

Did IG develop an overwhelming revulsion for AE during her pregnancies and afterwards? Was/is he revolted by womanliness generally, except when it applies to his mother? Is that what happened, same as Priscilla Presley claimed occurred between her and the mighty Elvis once she'd given birth? If so, no wonder AE grew more and more despondent and no wonder she wants to rip IG's guts out now

As for BW and her Pollyanna performance -- she's savvy and has friends. She didn't fall out of a rainbow. Hope she's thinking about all this, because no matter how much people choose to paint IG as the 'good' one in contrast to Bad Alice, BW knows from life experience that this can never be the case outside women's fiction. Hope she's getting in with a few questions of IG. And if she plans a long term relationship with him (I tend to suspect there's no intimacy between them outside IG fangirls' heads) she might be wise not to contemplate having a family with him and instead cultivate into old age her virginal innocence role, for fear she and her widening thighs and hips cause him to find her as repulsive as he appears to find AE
 
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plinky

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Lupenis has excelled higher than imaginable at his mansplaining and not only is a top of his class divorce expert (despite never being married and not a lawyer) he is also now a self appointed military warfare expert (despite never being in the military and learning everything he knows from the history channel)

there is no end to this mans talents with 240 characters and Shakespearean English - why is this guy single?
 
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CailinAlainn

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Because none of us know what has really happened behind the scenes.
It's easy to go off into judgement fantasy land and build things that turn out not to be based in reality - life has taught me that and about my own tendency - being honest- to do same.
In life, sometimes we build a picture or opinion, only to be pulled up short/amazed to find out we were wrong and we'd jumped to wrong conclusions
It's 'easy done'.
I'm looking at the whole thing and I'm getting some different impressions from what seem to be the predominant ones here.
None of us REALLY know.
I think it's good, and a better look, to keep that in mind.

Outside of her current trough, from what I've seen, I'm really not an Alice fan, to be honest.
She seems to be cushioned, out of touch and a bit of an opinionated useful idiot - like a lot of people in Hollyweird.
But I do feel/suspect she's been somewhat wronged by Ioan.

Ioan - hmm, seems quite full of himself, with a nice little humble Valleys Boy veneer.
Did he fundamentally want a new nubile smiling young thing on his arm?
Who wasn't 'dragging him down' with domestic worries and demands and 'we want you home's?
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BW - seems a bit 'too good to be wholesome' to me, if anyone's ever heard that old saying. I'm not buying it.
I don't know her and I'm sure she's not all good or all bad but Saint Bianca of Wonderful? No
So much I would like to say but I have a bunch to get done today so I’ll keep it short.
One - Alice would really like to think she is a Hollywood person with all those connotations. She is not, and never has been, regardless of her address.
Two - Bianca doesn’t need to be a saint or wonderful or anything else. She just needs to be herself/ a normal human being with whatever faults she has. I don’t think Ioan is looking for perfect or a nubile young thing. If so, he would have picked someone with a much easier life in terms of health and immigration status.
Three - he is an adult. He can be with whoever the f he likes, nubile, young, beautiful, bright - whoever it was, Alice would run her giant slurpy mouth. He just doesn’t want to be with Alice. I think she has shown us all why.
Four - Alice is poison. Everything she touches turns to shit. All benefit of the doubt etc is off at this point. I have no doubt Ioan did a lot of stuff he is not proud of. That’s life. That’s divorce. Alice thinks being provoked excuses her behaviour. If so, then her provocation of him should have caused him to act out too. It did not. Alice is who she is, regardless of what anyone else does. She may have good points, but they are getting swallowed up by the path she has chosen. That’s on her.
 
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Nesibindi

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Look at his hand, in his pocket. What's it doing? Cheap suit with shallow pockets? Or is his hand clenched into a fist regardless of pocket-depth?

AE's expression looks sad, despite the smile (and look at the size of his head compared to hers which isn't even small)

IG looks the same as he does in many photos: smug, full of his own self-delight, mummy's pretty little boy

They must have decided on this pose in advance, with her for some reason portraying the big-sister role. I used to believe AE had a strongly masculine presence. But now, I suspect it's more a case of IG having a strong little-girl presence

Why is his hand in his pocket? And should we guess it's the same with his other hand?

Why aren't his arms around her? I mean, ask yourself why. And this isn't the only photo of this kind featuring the pair of them. Compare it to photos of yourself with your man at the time. Would he have stood with his hands in his pockets? What would you have thought if he had? Do your daughter's husband or lover stand like a tin-god with his hands in his pockets as she hugs him? What would you think if he did? Be honest

Remember the interview in the garden with AE, IG and Piers Morgan? Remember little boy IG clutching AE's hand throughout? It looked awkward as hell and made him look like a mentally deficient idiot who was reliant on hanging onto AE-Mum as if his life depended on it. What was that about and why didn't Piers or the photographer quit filming to explain that in order to get the three of them in the shot, they were being compelled to show IG leaning far over in order to hold AE's hand which would look strange to viewers, particularly as IG seemed incapable of existing on his own in his own chair and as AE was seemingly so accustomed to IG's clinginess and so sensitive to his needs that she tolerated the sheer unmanliness of him

Did IG develop an overwhelming revulsion for AE during her pregnancies and afterwards? Was/is he revolted by womanliness generally, except when it applies to his mother? Is that what happened, same as Priscilla Presley claimed occurred between her and the mighty Elvis once she'd given birth? If so, no wonder AE grew more and more despondent and no wonder she wants to rip IG's guts out now

As for BW and her Pollyanna performance -- she's savvy and has friends. She didn't fall out of a rainbow. Hope she's thinking about all this, because no matter how much people choose to paint IG as the 'good' one in contrast to Bad Alice, BW knows from life experience that this can never be the case outside women's fiction. Hope she's getting in with a few questions of IG. And if she plans a long term relationship with him (I tend to suspect there's no intimacy between them outside IG fangirls' heads) she might be wise not to contemplate having a family with him and instead cultivate into old age her virginal innocence role, for fear she and her widening thighs and hips cause him to find her as repulsive as he appears to find AE
Is this long post an attempt at a poor Alice, she has been harmed, Bianca and gaslit by Ioan....and oh, look at the manipulative Bianca? Because it is a fail.
Alice has 20 years life experience on Bianca. She lived with a boyfriend in Italy before moving on to Oliver in France. She has had years of life experience , she is no babe in the woods manipulated by others. She chose this path she is on. We all chose our life paths.
There is no there there regarding Bianca or Ioan. Alice should own her crap and her role in the demise of her marriage
 
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ChillyUpNorth

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"We had a court date on March 11th to confirm it but he...."
..wants to stay in Wales?

I don’t know what the answer is, but she’s out there trying to stir up interest and conjecture. She’s taking the wheel back from lupaper. Implying Ioan is a liar and bully. Talking to random accounts by DM. Basically she’s back to harassing and defaming him on sm and the r/o isn’t even lifted yet.

Something has given her confidence. 🤔
We had a court date on March 11th to confirm it but HELL WILL FREEZE OVER BEFORE I ACCEPT THE RESTRAINING ORDER!”
 
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M33L4

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Why does she pout those ridiculous lips and talk with a slightly put on lisp?
I imagine she’s always been a fucking nightmare. But a young virile man couldn’t resist her and was smitten to start with before the real Alice reared her ugly head.

To choose Victoria’s cameo outtakes of is off the chart. This woman is a monster.
Nothing is innocent, it’s all malevolent, every single detail about her. The hair and make-up, the use of filters, dirty clothes. All to make you feel sorry for her.

No fuck her right into the sea.

She wished infertility on a younger woman, she had ivf 8/9 times!!

The things she has said and done are horrendous.
 
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Lizzymint

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Look at his hand, in his pocket. What's it doing? Cheap suit with shallow pockets? Or is his hand clenched into a fist regardless of pocket-depth?

AE's expression looks sad, despite the smile (and look at the size of his head compared to hers which isn't even small)

IG looks the same as he does in many photos: smug, full of his own self-delight, mummy's pretty little boy

They must have decided on this pose in advance, with her for some reason portraying the big-sister role. I used to believe AE had a strongly masculine presence. But now, I suspect it's more a case of IG having a strong little-girl presence

Why is his hand in his pocket? And should we guess it's the same with his other hand?

Why aren't his arms around her? I mean, ask yourself why. And this isn't the only photo of this kind featuring the pair of them. Compare it to photos of yourself with your man at the time. Would he have stood with his hands in his pockets? What would you have thought if he had? Do your daughter's husband or lover stand like a tin-god with his hands in his pockets as she hugs him? What would you think if he did? Be honest

Remember the interview in the garden with AE, IG and Piers Morgan? Remember little boy IG clutching AE's hand throughout? It looked awkward as hell and made him look like a mentally deficient idiot who was reliant on hanging onto AE-Mum as if his life depended on it. What was that about and why didn't Piers or the photographer quit filming to explain that in order to get the three of them in the shot, they were being compelled to show IG leaning far over in order to hold AE's hand which would look strange to viewers, particularly as IG seemed incapable of existing on his own in his own chair and as AE was seemingly so accustomed to IG's clinginess and so sensitive to his needs that she tolerated the sheer unmanliness of him

Did IG develop an overwhelming revulsion for AE during her pregnancies and afterwards? Was/is he revolted by womanliness generally, except when it applies to his mother? Is that what happened, same as Priscilla Presley claimed occurred between her and the mighty Elvis once she'd given birth? If so, no wonder AE grew more and more despondent and no wonder she wants to rip IG's guts out now

As for BW and her Pollyanna performance -- she's savvy and has friends. She didn't fall out of a rainbow. Hope she's thinking about all this, because no matter how much people choose to paint IG as the 'good' one in contrast to Bad Alice, BW knows from life experience that this can never be the case outside women's fiction. Hope she's getting in with a few questions of IG. And if she plans a long term relationship with him (I tend to suspect there's no intimacy between them outside IG fangirls' heads) she might be wise not to contemplate having a family with him and instead cultivate into old age her virginal innocence role, for fear she and her widening thighs and hips cause him to find her as repulsive as he appears to find AE
Think you got lost on the way to suck up to the Abuser that is Alice Evans on Instagram love , you know the one who has a TRO on her which will soon be a full RO . Alice Evans who has 113 pages of vile disgusting abusive texts and emails , voice notes ( not yet presented in court ) presented in court as genuine evidence of how she has been behaving etc .
Alice Evans who has encouraged abuse on Twitter against a young woman with a very serious health condition, and been so incredibly vile wishing infertility on her , and liked a tweet suggested she was ‘asking for it ‘ … shall I go on .
I would be incredibly embarrassed to even think about the words you have just posted publicly, let alone actually do that !

The FM’s are clearly bored , or have been shut down on Twitter ‘Again’ 😉
 
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