walliewellie
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The DM really have turned on AFE. About time!
Every case is different. Just as every person is different. I didn't have 1 safe family member. My father started raping me when I was about 5, maybe even earlier. My older brother started molesting me when we were teenagers. And my mother has been neglecting, manipulating, controlling, and emotionally exploiting and abusing me since I was a child to this very day. But I'm not going to use myself or anyone else as some arbitrary standard for how anybody should react or for when an abused child should come to the realisation that they have been abused and spurn the abusive parent. We're talking about deep emotions and primal needs here, and so much mental and emotional abuse from the primary caregiver and most important person in Ella's life, and there is nothing rational or logical about those needs, emotions or the abuse. It's not a matter of the information being available online about mental health disorders or the court documents. It's about Ella having the intelligence, maturity, emotional integrity and most of all the emotional and physical safety within herself and within her life to face the truth, accept it and process it. And that isn't necessarily going to come with age, or with seeing it in black and white in court documents or spread across SM or newspapers. It's only ever going to come if and when Ella feels safe enough to see the truth for what it is.You can say someone is deeply unwell and still have sympathy for them. When I was young there was no internet to look these things up. Now there is a million accounts about narcissism and it's easy to get information. I said I would give her until 21 - I didn't say she should start rebelling now, as that's not gonna happen. Also young people are far more savvy about mental health conditions - it's even become 'cool' to have a mh condition with many of them. The stigma around it is not there like it was in Alice's/my generation which is good.
Every case is different. Ella has one safe parent (who she is contemptuous of even though he pays for everything she has). Some kids don't even have one safe parent, so Ella isn't even that unfortunate by many standards. @Lulugrace talked about reading her parents court docs at 15 and the scales fell from her eyes. That's what I want to happen for Ella so that at least she can stop being abusive to I and B even if she stays loyal to her narc mom in the main. She is getting more and more involved with pap shots and probably socking on the DM too which is worrying. I know she's trauma bonded but still hope by 21 it will be a very different story, when she sees things clearly.
I take it back. She's made herself eight feet tall in these photos. Filters are so clever nowadays but they need to work out how to change standard door height to matchTBF (apart from the terrible clothes) she has lost the gunt. The ozempic has worked wonders. She looked eight months pregnant in the front garden photos wearing that blue dress.
I hope the previous owner of those shoes wore socks with themI wonder if she’s sold another story to DM and needs some new pics for them to use.
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She doesn’t have socks on in those grotty puma pumps does she?
for me it’s the shoes that killed it all.
Alice's priorities have only ever been revenge and making him pay for leaving her.I think Alice quite literally cannot compute losing, especially because of her own behaviour. She's the smartest person in the room and if something goes wrong for her it's always because it's someone else's fault, never hers.
The DM isn't really on anyone's side, they're on the side of getting clicks.The DM really have turned on AFE. About time!
One of the things that really turned me off of Alice is that video clip of Ioan being made a druid at the Eisteddfod (one of the main things that I think is awesome about him). Alice was being interviewed at the event and she was so blasé, she said something like (I'm paraphrasing) "I can't understand anything anyone is saying but good for him I guess" and it was so disrespectful and unsupportive.I’d like to think he’s given a nickname in Welsh which would piss off AFE what with her never learning to speak Welsh coz she’s a cnut. Hated her when she did that whole “change your name” rant
I’m quite a bit older than the Abuser and I still wear leggings. Admittedly I dress much better than she does and I don’t look like a bag lady, but wearing leggings when you’re over 40 and looking good is very possible.The leggings make me sick. I actually don’t think women over 40 should be wearing them lol. And Alice wears the same nasty pair all the time.
And why oh why wear shoes that emphasize the feet when they are so big?? Gaa!
He's come across as a genuinely decent man who's bent over backwards at his own expense to make the divorce and the whole transition of him leaving and not being Alice's money bank or emotional support, as easy and fair as possible for Alice and the girls, and all she's done is to take advantage of and exploit his decency and smear his reputation with heinous lies. I can be quite cynical about men because of my own experiences, but Ioan really does seem like a good guy, not perfect, but more than just decent.Anyone who can put up with her for twenty years is a saint in my eyes