Was on tumblr reading this post and immediately thought of Zoe .... poor Zoe with that insufferable rat of a man child .... shes never going to get the ring she so desperately wants from him ... it never takes this long for a man to propose and here’s living proof
Zoe Sugg #27 New year same boring Zzzoella
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Ridiculous comment.
Was there ever a reason she deleted her Twitter?
Everyone was hating on her I think, but in her eyes when are they not
Well, I only found out she deleted it not long ago... I immediately thought about the scandal around her old tweets.
Also, seems like she wants to make herself quite impossible to reach... No twitter, she clearly ignores youtube comments, or doesn't, but for sure someone deletes bad comments for her...
And thisEveryone was hating on her I think, but in her eyes when are they not
I think she said it was too toxic
I feel like it's not so much that she has no reason to struggle with her mental health but more that she has so many resources at her disposal to properly address her mental health but doesn't seem to do so. She continues to see that fake therapist via Skype when she could afford to see the best mental health specialists in the country. It's hard because that's probably part of her mental health, the lack of drive to make any more serious changes to the support she receives. Would be nice if Alfie or someone else in her circle could encourage her but that's not what yes men are for I guess
He would be “hating on her” if he tried to encourage her
This is exactly what put me off Zoe. AFAIK she never addressed the ghost writing thing (other than the initial tweet to say “obviously” she had help with it - it isn’t obvious to teenagers who believe you when you say you’re writing a book).
The trolling over the calendar thing did go too far in hindsight but the “apology” was pretty condescending.
I listened to it too. I actually sent a question in about her business (which wasnt asked). It reminds me of when Wimbledon gets on old tennis pros to offer expertise
She also says “oh 100 percent!” A LOT
Read: cant get one of her staff to moderate comments about ghostwriters or advent calendars
Going to start by disclaiming and saying that I actually don't watch Zoe to closely here so maybe I'm missing something. But I see a few people in her threads being like 'it's such a shame she can't use resources / overcome more of her anxiety' etc. But what are you guys looking for? Zoe is definitely a homebody and I don't think there's anything wrong with that. Overcoming anxiety doesn't have to be about getting up on stages and being in crowds or being wildly spontaneous etc. Sometimes it's just about not being scared to be alone in your own home, or going to the supermarket unplanned.
It's the difference between what she wants to do but can't because of anxiety and what she just isn't interested in doing. At the end of the day we're not in her brain and we can't make that distinction.
It's the difference between what she wants to do but can't because of anxiety and what she just isn't interested in doing. At the end of the day we're not in her brain and we can't make that distinction.
Here’s what it is for me— even if you accept that you will likely manage your anxiety disorder forever or at least long term... you also know you are doing well and when you have enough healthy coping mechanisms and have developed an understanding of yourself, so that you are able to function and meet challenges and adapt to new situations.
So let’s say for some reason Zoe was confronted with a task that is for the average person quite mundane: that she now had an office job where she commuted to work by herself and went to her job and stayed for the day and came home. (And NO, I don’t think this is the ultimate sign of mental health, it’s just an example. And no, I do NOT think she ‘should’ do this or is missing out because she works for herself. Again, simply an example of an everyday task that an average adult woman can perform).
I think we all know that Zoe could not even do a daily commute by herself, let alone actually start a job and go every day and meet that challenge. And sure most people would swap an office job for her work and understandably so. But the question is— if I had to do it, could I? Zoe can make the life she wants because she’s privileged enough to do so, but if those privileges were gone, would she be able to get by at all? And that’s a question she should ask to assess her mental health.
I think it’s clear that if Zoe is just shifted even slightly out of her perfectly constructed life, then we get a real test of how well she is really doing. Is she actually genuinely a self sufficient adult or is she just now extremely comfortable in all the predictable elements of her world that she feels less anxiety? The latter isn’t good mental health unfortunately.
I don’t say this to be mean because my own anxiety has taken me to the lowest points and I honestly do get it. I can sympathize with her in a lot of ways. But one might as well be honest too, and as a woman around her age who has dealt with similar mental health struggles, it’s sad that it doesn’t seem to occur to her that developing self sufficiency and independence is key, not just ‘look I dealt with a panic attack at a restaurant by pacing outside for an hour’.
Anyone else hear her on Gemma styles podcast? I think she came across quite well.
It's because she doesn't have the range to discuss anything else. Tbh she barely has the range to discuss anxiety and social media. She's not the number 1 Queen of youtube no more and her anxiety has not subsided and she only does things about MH to propel herself
This pod cast must be the thing she was recording in bed that time!
imo its hard to really say what we are looking for, because she doesn’t really talk about it that much or in depth. Or maybe I have just missed stuff. But she does repeat the same surface level things.
I just look at her behaviour. She doesn’t do anything like she used to. I guess its fine but she has money and opportunities to at least do something. I find it odd she chooses to constantly stay in her place of comfort/safe space where there are less situations for her to feel anxious. She seems to have less anxiety doing things she wants to do, which is great (if she were to feel anxious, she’d probably post about it). But life isnt all comfy and doing things you wanna do. She avoids things she doesn’t want to do - either because she thinks it will make her anxious, or shes ‘above it’. But also avoids saying “im not doing x because it makes me anxious and I dont want to work towards feeling not anxious about it”. She just sits and sweats away in her not-mansion. Its not a great life to live and will further add to her MH issues.
Ofc she shows/tells us about being anxious flying, or that time at a restaurant when she filmed taaarn helping her. But she doesn’t really go into it. I’d think she would, being an ambassador for Mind and made them a whopping £13k over 5 years. Amazing.
She said she sees askype ass kisser therapist and that shes on top of her anxiety now and rarely has issues. Has she said how shes gotten there? What she has done? She had tarn try talk her down at the dinner and listens to music/has a distraction list(?) for flights. But has all those things really made her anxiety completely managed and now it rarely happens? I find that hard to believe. I acknowledge everyones MH is different and we all have different levels of severity. But other than the skype lady, has she done anything regularly to her help with this? Tools? Exercises? Exposure? Sleep? Goal setting? How often? Where does she do it? What has she felt while doing it? Any hiccups? Setbacks? Other than sitting on the couch & watching the same movie as a coping mechanism, what else helps? Other than avoidance, has she said what has actually helped?
She doesn’t even see a therapist in person, which is sooo different to virtual sessions.
Its the lack of transparency and honesty for me. She doesn’t talk about it but can happily say shes an ambassador and works with companies to get us to donate our money.
I just look at her behaviour. She doesn’t do anything like she used to. I guess its fine but she has money and opportunities to at least do something. I find it odd she chooses to constantly stay in her place of comfort/safe space where there are less situations for her to feel anxious. She seems to have less anxiety doing things she wants to do, which is great (if she were to feel anxious, she’d probably post about it). But life isnt all comfy and doing things you wanna do. She avoids things she doesn’t want to do - either because she thinks it will make her anxious, or shes ‘above it’. But also avoids saying “im not doing x because it makes me anxious and I dont want to work towards feeling not anxious about it”. She just sits and sweats away in her not-mansion. Its not a great life to live and will further add to her MH issues.
Ofc she shows/tells us about being anxious flying, or that time at a restaurant when she filmed taaarn helping her. But she doesn’t really go into it. I’d think she would, being an ambassador for Mind and made them a whopping £13k over 5 years. Amazing.
She said she sees a
She doesn’t even see a therapist in person, which is sooo different to virtual sessions.
Its the lack of transparency and honesty for me. She doesn’t talk about it but can happily say shes an ambassador and works with companies to get us to donate our money.
So I actually found her Vlogmas videos quite a lot more refreshing and down to Earth (at the start, before all the rule breaking) than certain other “influencers” who just posted 25 days of ads, but why the hell has she done her usual disappearing act in January?! I can’t imagine it’s been the busiest of years for her work-wise and actually continuing to check in, post videos and generally interact with her fans or viewers or whatever it is she calls them, would really benefit her. She could totally turn around the opinion we have of her being dull and boring and not interested in her job anymore. But instead she’s back to being lazy zoella doing nothing. No wonder this thread is only ever full of pregnancy speculation and whether she’ll ditch horse teeth. Come on Zoe! Do something!
What is she doing right now? There’s no Instagram content, no videos, no vlogging/editing, she doesn’t have any input in her own website, she doesn’t have her Zoella brands anymore, so what exactly is she doing apart from Ads? Mental how most people work 40-60 hour weeks and she can do a couple Ads a week that make more money than most peoples annual salary, it’s wrong
Probably baking another bleeping cake or posh tomatoes on sourdough bread
Don’t forget that balsamic glaze xxx
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