Just because you were stripped of basic human needs / interaction, does NOT make them autistic. its the bodys natural way of adapting to life without knowing any better because no one ever taught them.
Yes, I've just said pretty much the same about Heidie too.I think Archie looks like a very disconnected depressed wee boy. its sad and disheartening to watch. I dont see any other of the kids act or presents themselves as he does. Heidie also looks very disconnected, which has been mentioned a few time.
Which is the point being made I believe? Nobody is saying kids in a Romanian orphanage are all autistic, just that they may present as such due to their upbringing. Which is similar to the Radford children. they are so devoid of 1-1 attention, it's no wonder that so many of them present as having autistic traits. It doesn't definitely mean they are autistic though.Just because you were stripped of basic human needs / interaction, does NOT make them autistic. its the bodys natural way of adapting to life without knowing any better because no one ever taught them.
I know some of the boys is it Max and Oscar? Have ASD and was Casper being assessed? I see a lot of ASD in CasperYes, I've just said pretty much the same about Heidie too.
I guess my point is, given their home environment, I wouldn't jump to autism straight away. I'm not saying they aren't potentially autistic, just that it could just be their home environment making them present in such a way. The lack of 1-1 attention, basic needs not being met, living with constant noise/chaos etc.
I think the Romanian orphanage example is a good one. Children in that environment definitely display lots of characteristics of autism, but they're not necessarily autistic. It's the environment which is making them present that way, rather than it being the way their brain is actually wired. Take them out of that environment and the can present quite differently, with the right nurture and care.
I've known a couple of 'chaotic' families who have been completely convinced that their youngest (funny how it's often the younger ones) is autistic, pushing for assessments and diagnosis, when in fact in school we see a child who presents completely differently in the classroom to how they do in their chaotic home. It's not unheard of.
Max is the only one they've officially revealed has a diagnosis, but Oscar, Casper, Archie, Heidie and even Tillie I would say all give potential ASD vibes.I know some of the boys is it Max and Oscar? Have ASD and was Casper being assessed? I see a lot of ASD in Casper
They are failing their children BIG timeMax is the only one they've officially revealed has a diagnosis, but Oscar, Casper, Archie, Heidie and even Tillie I would say all give potential ASD vibes.
There can be a genetic link, but their environment most certainly won't be helping. If they are autistic, their chaotic lifestyle is making their life far more difficult than it need be. Children with autism need routine and order, calm quiet spaces and sensory stimulation, none of which are big in the Radford household.
If they're not actually autistic, their home environment will be a huge factor in why they present as potentially being so.
Is it Phoebe? I think she has developemental delay or she’s just totally overshadowed by Hallie but during the mayhem of their homeschooling she appeared to be struggling with a simple workbook and was unable to hold her pencil correctly bless her- mine were taught that at Nursery....speechwise, several of the younger ones would benefit from Speech and Language therapy but who’s going to put the additional work in after sessions? Takes time and effort, something Sue and Nowull probably couldnt be arsed to give. I feel so sorry for the kids, not their fault, they didnt ask for thisWhich of the other younger girls need to be assessed abs what delays do you think they have - not just speech so autism
Or adhd or low ability/ dev delay?
Yes, sadly it's the same picture up and down the country with cuts being made everywhere. And sadly, the need is currently greater than ever. We're seeing more and more children start Reception not toilet trained, unable to communicate basic needs, unable to feed themselves, still only drinking from bottles etc and half the time it's not even because of SEN, it's just shockingly bad parenting in the 21st century, where parents don't see such basic things as their own responsibility to teachThe bar is extremely high locally for an EHCP, unless the kid has been excluded from multiple schools or 3+ years behind and making no progress, it's a battle to even get an ed psych assessment in most schools.
Totally agree, well saidThey are failing their children BIG time
Do you know how many kids I see on tiktok 3/4 years old with nappies down to their ankles and bottles stuck to their mouth claming they have asd and thats why. maybe get off tiktok and pay attention to your kid and youll find they dont.Yes, sadly it's the same picture up and down the country with cuts being made everywhere. And sadly, the need is currently greater than ever. We're seeing more and more children start Reception not toilet trained, unable to communicate basic needs, unable to feed themselves, still only drinking from bottles etc and half the time it's not even because of SEN, it's just shockingly bad parenting in the 21st century, where parents don't see such basic things as their own responsibility to teach
Its a different type of Autism, its called developmental autism, it also happens with children in america who are locked up and abused where there are some really interesting studies.kids in Romanian orphanages displayed all the symptoms of autism, doesn't necessarily mean they have autism.
But even with mundane tasks you can still interact, even things as boring as washing, get the child to help put things in the machine and talk to them. When shopping rather than letting them run about and touch it all, spend time at their level talking about what they are seeing. Would be fab in a supermarket, show them fruit and veg Sue!Possibly, although it doesn't appear to have benefited Heidie this far. Poor lamb is still pretty mute, at nearly 2. It's her lack of eye contact which concerns me though. For a child growing up in such a busy household, she seems so passive. Sue could be giving her so much 1-1 attention while the others are at school/nursery but she just spends all day shopping, chilling or doing laundry. Does she even know how to play with her children? She's always been so use to them entertaining each other, due to there being so many of them, yet Heidie has nobody to play with while the others are all out (unless Millie is there with Ophelia).
You never see Sue engaging in proper play or even conversation with her children. She's usually so busy with the camera she doesn't even give eye contact to her children when she utters the usual "what's the matter darling? Oh that's nice" generic responses to everything they say or do.
What the hell are people doing putting their young children on TikTok?!Do you know how many kids I see on tiktok 3/4 years old with nappies down to their ankles and bottles stuck to their mouth claming they have asd and thats why. maybe get off tiktok and pay attention to your kid and youll find they dont.
Yeah !! I mean they obviously dont have an account but the mums openly post them naked with nappies hanging down then complain there kid wont toilet train when leaving them in soiled nappies for hours isnt going to teach them anything. probs the same for radfords, her last 3 kids are still in nappies and I cant imagine Sue rushing to change them.What the hell are people doing putting their young children on TikTok?!
It's amazing how many parents self-diagnose autism as an excuse for poor parenting. Doing a total disservice to parents of children who genuinely do have autism.
This is something i've also noticed over the last few years.It's amazing how many parents self-diagnose autism as an excuse for poor parenting. Doing a total disservice to parents of children who genuinely do have autism.
Yup, you've hit the nail on the head. That's exactly what we're experiencing too.This is something i've also noticed over the last few years.
It used to be i've tried everything and nothing seems to help, do you think there's an underlying reason why my child is doing XYZ?
Now it's
I haven't even tried and there's no point in me doing anything, as I know my child has autism (or another self-diagnosis)
The diagnostic process has been an absolute mess for years. I'll just say that reducing waiting lists was more important than accurate diagnosis for one consultant, so children were being diagnosed when they shouldn't be. I do see traits, but if it was genetic, it would be across all ages, not just the neglected younger ones. I know that every child with autism is different, but in my experience, shopping trips with autistic kids in tow would have resulted in meltdowns and not a chance would I have had chance to get pointy finger out for the camera. I don't know a single ASD parent that would take their kids shopping, even toy shopping, for something to do.Max is the only one they've officially revealed has a diagnosis, but Oscar, Casper, Archie, Heidie and even Tillie I would say all give potential ASD vibes.
There can be a genetic link, but their environment most certainly won't be helping. If they are autistic, their chaotic lifestyle is making their life far more difficult than it need be. Children with autism need routine and order, calm quiet spaces and sensory stimulation, none of which are big in the Radford household.
If they're not actually autistic, their home environment will be a huge factor in why they present as potentially being so.
I had my baby at 20 and was moved out at 18 anyway, it’s not difficult to go on YouTube and learn to cook that way either even just basic stuff - if she really wanted to she would and let’s be honest she probably doesn’t but I do blame sue for not equipping her with these skills at the same timeThat house is far to chaotic. I would hate it and now the other kids have to also put up with the grandkids aswell . Millie should be moved out at 19 I had a house to run a full time job and a new baby I cooked nice meals every single day . If she feels grown up enough to bring another baby into the world she should start standing on her own two feet and get her own house . Every single child in that house has been neglected and not had needs met . they Have been left to raise the new babies sue has . Sad really
it'll move onto a different diagnosis eventually. Yr 11 kids are claiming they have schizophrenia nowYup, you've hit the nail on the head. That's exactly what we're experiencing too.
Or, I've had several kids and really don't want any more but I definitely don't want to go to work, so I'm going to push for this one to be diagnosed with autism. I really have seen and heard it all.