The DIS Unplugged #8

[DIZWatcher]

When this whole scandal started to really unfold with us hearing direct accounts from Dustin & Sean, I was very much willing to give Craig, Ryno, and John the benefit of the doubt- as they’ve who’ve I’ve always been the biggest fans of anyway, having met & hung out with Craig & Ryno at universal more than once … that we’re absolutely awesome … but now I am completely unsold on them all. I don’t want to watch or listen to anything they say or do. This is an abominable disaster being handled in the worst self-pitying way possible. That transcript is enough for me … my immediate family includes immigrants and disabled individuals. I don’t mean to add to the internet outrage… but these people are bleeping abysmal and selfish and have existed in their sham of a rich bubble for too long.
There has been zero accountability taken on the company’s behalf - or really anyone personally. Idgaf about the legality of statements, every one around Pete has enabled him for 15+ years and he has RAPED an employee. Maybe John & Kevin would like to be reduced to their physical appearances and handicaps and made fun of that way too? duck you craig, duck you Ryno, duck you john. duck the Dis. From a former hardcore fan.

I get dragging John for this as he participated in this conversation, but what the do Craig and Ryno have to do with the transcript? This happened years before either of them worked there, and let’s not act like this transcript was common knowledge either before someone posted it in this thread this afternoon.

I’m getting so tired of this whole scorched-earth “everyone must blindly pay for Pete’s sins” attitude. Pete royally sucks. That’s an understatement. John and Kevin suck somewhat less. But still suck.

However, I’m finding it very interesting that despite Sean and Dustin saying repeatedly that nobody on the crew knew about the sexual assaults (except for Charles, apparently, and that’s only because Pete had the arrogance and the stupidity to actually admit it to him), people are conveniently ignoring this part, as though they’re telling the truth about the assaults, but somehow lying when they say they kept it to themselves. Please.

I’m not trying to moderate, but please get it through some of y’all’s thick skulls that the rot is at the top chiefly with Pete, John and Kevin.

 

[Love_the_kitz]

I get dragging John for this as he participated in this conversation, but what the do Craig and Ryno have to do with the transcript? This happened years before either of them worked there, and let’s not act like this transcript was common knowledge either before someone posted it in this thread this afternoon.

I’m getting so tired of this whole scorched-earth “everyone must blindly pay for Pete’s sins” attitude. Pete royally sucks. That’s an understatement. John and Kevin suck somewhat less. But still suck.

However, I’m finding it very interesting that despite Sean and Dustin saying repeatedly that nobody on the crew knew about the sexual assaults (except for Charles, apparently, and that’s only because Pete had the arrogance and the stupidity to actually admit it to him), people are conveniently ignoring this part, as though they’re telling the truth about the assaults, but somehow lying when they say they kept it to themselves. Please.

I’m not trying to moderate, but please get it through some of y’all’s thick skulls that the rot is at the top chiefly with Pete, John and Kevin.

So do you believe D.U. and the Dis can continue on as is without changes?

 

[DISbored]

I get dragging John for this as he participated in this conversation, but what the do Craig and Ryno have to do with the transcript? This happened years before either of them worked there, and let’s not act like this transcript was common knowledge either before someone posted it in this thread this afternoon.

I’m getting so tired of this whole scorched-earth “everyone must blindly pay for Pete’s sins” attitude. Pete royally sucks. That’s an understatement. John and Kevin suck somewhat less. But still suck.

However, I’m finding it very interesting that despite Sean and Dustin saying repeatedly that nobody on the crew knew about the sexual assaults (except for Charles, apparently, and that’s only because Pete had the arrogance and the stupidity to actually admit it to him), people are conveniently ignoring this part, as though they’re telling the truth about the assaults, but somehow lying when they say they kept it to themselves. Please.

I’m not trying to moderate, but please get it through some of y’all’s thick skulls that the rot is at the top chiefly with Pete, John and Kevin.

I just think we all find it ironic since your friend Ryan perches on top of the social justice nest giving his political opinions about morality yet is complicit here.

 

[DIZWatcher]

So do you believe D.U. and the Dis can continue on as is without changes?

With some better leadership, absolutely!

 

[Love_the_kitz]

With some better leadership, absolutely!

I wish there were a good Pixar film to equate what's going on with the companies to a story, but Pixar has yet to release a story about an abusive boss, the victims and the recovery everyone goes through, particularly those directly affected.

It's fairly certain the story would have to include major changes within the company. Changing leadership would not be enough, that's more akin to a Disney princess, "... and they lived happily ever after" style story and not reality.

 

[HeyLetsGoState]

I just think we all find it ironic since your friend Ryan perches on top of the social justice nest giving his political opinions about morality yet is complicit here.

Bingo. You want to go and play social-justice warrior and spew hashtags and bring politics into every convo, this is the consequence.

 

[DIZWatcher]

I just think we all find it ironic since your friend Ryan perches on top of the social justice nest giving his political opinions about morality yet is complicit here.

Complicit how? How is anyone other than Pete complicit for a sexual assault that happened behind closed hotel room and cruise cabin doors?

Did Ryno supply the drugs that Pete used? Was Craig the lookout?

I want someone to really enlighten me on how anyone else is responsible for Pete being a creep and a rapist in his private life.

 

[MrToad]

Complicit how? How is anyone other than Pete complicit for a sexual assault that happened behind closed hotel room and cruise cabin doors?

Did Ryno supply the drugs that Pete used? Was Craig the lookout?

I want someone to really enlighten me on how anyone else is responsible for Pete being a creep and a rapist in his private life.

Ryno is a liberal and therefore, to some people, he's scum. It's pretty much that simple.

 

[DIZWatcher]

Ryno is a liberal and therefore, to some people, he's scum. It's pretty much that simple.

I think that pretty much sums it up.

 

[DISbored]

Complicit how? How is anyone other than Pete complicit for a sexual assault that happened behind closed hotel room and cruise cabin doors?

Did Ryno supply the drugs that Pete used? Was Craig the lookout?

I want someone to really enlighten me on how anyone else is responsible for Pete being a creep and a rapist in his private life.

So Ryan never saw anything troubling with the gay men that were in and out of the studio on a rotating basis? He’s just a fawn in the woods who was blind sighted by everything? Hopefully more information comes out because I truly find it hard to believe that someone who has consistent moral guidance on all topics of life was absolutely shocked when all things happened.

Also who cares that he’s a liberal? I’m a liberal I don’t want to hear about it on a Disney podcast.

 

[Love_the_kitz]

Ryno is a liberal and therefore, to some people, he's scum. It's pretty much that simple.

I am surprised he hasn't made much noise over the whole ordeal with Pete. maybe he's not as liberal as we think. Maybe it's just all about what he wants to be vocal over.

.. a side story that may give a little insight:

My daughter was breaking into the floral industry and her first bosses were a married gay couple (elderly by all accounts). A very small mom and pop shop that was pretty much the only shop open in the area during the pandemic to work with the funeral homes. Needless to say, the work was constant and sometimes overwhelming.

They started off as fairly normal bosses, a bit mouthy and bossy but as the years went on they started abusing their power as owners and would yell, overly criticize, and inappropriately touch the employees, both male and female. As a small company there wasn't much they could do without losing their jobs so they just put up with it. All the time the bosses would swear, tell inappropriate jokes, and reassure the employees that the swinger lifestyle was very much in with their gay community. What was that was supposed to mean? My daughter ran from there when they started groping her chest. She never reported them, but was angry feeling that she had somehow allowed it to happen and that the other employees were also turning the proverbial cheek to it.

I'm not equating Pete to these two asses, however what I'm saying is it's very hard to say anything out of fear for your livelihood.

 

[Ghost of Bob Varley]

Complicit how? How is anyone other than Pete complicit for a sexual assault that happened behind closed hotel room and cruise cabin doors?

Did Ryno supply the drugs that Pete used? Was Craig the lookout?

I want someone to really enlighten me on how anyone else is responsible for Pete being a creep and a rapist in his private life.

There was clearly a toxic environment and culture in the company that allowed Pete to thrive.

Former employees have come out and said that there were people in the company that enabled that behavior.

I think its fair for people to be saying that its hard to believe that Ryno has been there for more than a decade and saw nothing and knew nothing and is totally shocked.

Its just more believable that he saw the red flags and just didnt care because he didn't want to upend the convenient lifestyle the job afforded him.

If I am someone trying to save or rebrand the company, I'm not keeping people that were in this gray area like Ryno. I'm cleaning house and starting completely fresh.

 

[DIZWatcher]

So Ryan never saw anything troubling with the gay men that were in and out of the studio on a rotating basis? He’s just a fawn in the woods who was blind sighted by everything? Hopefully more information comes out because I truly find it hard to believe that someone who has consistent moral guidance on all topics of life was absolutely shocked when all things happened.

Also who cares that he’s a liberal? I’m a liberal I don’t want to hear about it on a Disney podcast.

And how, pray tell, do you propose he should've confronted his narcissistic boss about his personal life with ostensibly consenting, albeit younger, adults? Like, in what workplace, toxicity be damned, is that a normal conversation? So, if I catch my boss out somewhere cheating on his wife in a restaurant, am I supposed to march into his office the next morning and confront him about it? And it still doesn't signal that they're being raped.

 

[CoolWhip]

I work on a small company, the CEO was physically and emotionally abused by her husband for years. We had company retreats where we all interacted with both of them and none of us had any clue any of it was happening until we had an all hands and she announced she was getting divorced and he no longer had any association with the business. Again we had no idea. Should we have lost all of our clients and all of our jobs because he was a disgusting piece of tit?

 

[Thunderbirdtoo]

There was clearly a toxic environment and culture in the company that allowed Pete to thrive.

Former employees have come out and said that there were people in the company that enabled that behavior.

And this brings up the million dollar question. What kind of civil liability could the DIS/DUT as a company potentially be facing for their actions, or inactions, in regards to Pete's criminal acts? That's generally where the deep pockets are - companies, not individuals. Even if those pockets turn out to be not as deep as they'd like us to think, surely they must have had some kind of insurance? Maybe you business owners would know?

I know Sean said he already talked to an attorney; I hope that Dustin (and any other victims who may not have come forward yet) do as well, and that everyone explores all criminal and civil options that may be available to them. Against Pete individually, but also against the DIS/DUT, now that more and more people are speaking up about questionable (at best) workplace practices.

Disclaimer: I don't work in Florida, or in this field, but a friend forwarded me the following:

This is the SOL in Florida for civil SA:

Florida

Fla. Stat. § 95.11(7), (9)

Within seven years after the age of majority, within four years after the person leaves the dependency of the abuser, or within four years from the time of discovery, whichever occurs later

 

[The Mando]

And this brings up the million dollar question. What kind of civil liability could the DIS/DUT as a company potentially be facing for their actions, or inactions, in regards to Pete's criminal acts? That's generally where the deep pockets are - companies, not individuals. Even if those pockets turn out to be not as deep as they'd like us to think, surely they must have had some kind of insurance? Maybe you business owners would know?

I know Sean said he already talked to an attorney; I hope that Dustin (and any other victims who may not have come forward yet) do as well, and that everyone explores all criminal and civil options that may be available to them. Against Pete individually, but also against the DIS/DUT, now that more and more people are speaking up about questionable (at best) workplace practices.

Disclaimer: I don't work in Florida, or in this field, but a friend forwarded me the following:

This is the SOL in Florida for civil SA:

Florida

Fla. Stat. § 95.11(7), (9)

Within seven years after the age of majority, within four years after the person leaves the dependency of the abuser, or within four years from the time of discovery, whichever occurs later

In my case, Pete would request a jury trial and the minute escort comes up, I lose. I’ve accepted that but Dustin might have a shot and I can support the testimony.

The only thing of Pete’s I would want is his dogs.

 

[2020planner]

And how, pray tell, do you propose he should've confronted his narcissistic boss about his personal life with ostensibly consenting, albeit younger, adults? Like, in what workplace, toxicity be damned, is that a normal conversation? So, if I catch my boss out somewhere cheating on his wife in a restaurant, am I supposed to march into his office the next morning and confront him about it? And it still doesn't signal that they're being raped.

Yeah, I agree w/ you. We can all fully agree that Pete is tit (and John...Kevin...etc. are not far behind).

People can post what they want and all, but calling for / wishing for / hoping for the complete downfall and closure of a company that is keeping a roof over so many peoples' heads (people who - let's be clear: didn't rape other people) is very easy to talk about on Tattle, but very very complex when it comes to real life and real people.

If anyone has ever been on the receiving end of someone else being a fucker of a person and had to pay for it with their livelihood, you'll know what I'm talking about. And I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
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I work on a small company, the CEO was physically and emotionally abused by her husband for years. We had company retreats where we all interacted with both of them and none of us had any clue any of it was happening until we had an all hands and she announced she was getting divorced and he no longer had any association with the business. Again we had no idea. Should we have lost all of our clients and all of our jobs because he was a disgusting piece of tit?

Spot on. I don't think many people appreciate just how well things can either be hidden OR just shrugged off as a person being who they are (e.g., "Pete just being Pete"... ) It's doubtful to me that Corey, Craig and / or Ryno (love them or hate them) were in the daily thought process - busy w/ their own lives - of microanalyzing every little thing Pete did, said, etc. to anyone on any given day to even BEGIN to suggest he may have been secretly raping, terrorizing their co-workers, etc.

 

[DISbored]

In my case, Pete would request a jury trial and the minute escort comes up, I lose. I’ve accepted that but Dustin might have a shot and I can support the testimony.

The only thing of Pete’s I would want is his dogs.

An escort has terms and conditions that they set and aren’t to be abused, mentally, and physically. I’m not sure why that would be a hindrance to you? If it is, that needs to be changed in the law.

 

[DIZWatcher]

Something just dawned on me:

"(Ryno) remains close friends with Dustin West". This is from your wiki.

Now, I don't know about y'all, but I don't know too many people who would remain close friends with someone who's "complicit" in their rape.

Anyway, has anyone checked on Jafar to see if he's okay?

 

[DISbored]

I guess I’m different that if I saw my boss with his abusive behavior which has been well documented by other people and created a toxic work environment I’d leave. I’ve done it before, granted I didn’t have access to cupcake parties and roller coaster previews.