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The Mando

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I am back temporarily from my cruise. Ironically, I booked several trips for this time of year, long ago because I just planned to travel and picked this time frame over a year ago. It ended up being great timing.

I’m reading and following along when I can but again, thanks for the continued support. I might do a Dustin style live video at some point before I leave again as well.
 
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Is it just me, or did we completely blow by celebrating our Win here?

Dustin is finally podcasting again while the Bitch is holed up in that dumpy house that he doesn't even own and will soon be taken away.

We have Sean enjoying a cruise while Queen Concierge is afraid to even step foot on Disney property, let alone a concierge DCL suite.

He lost his fiancé.
He lost his business.
He lost his business partners.
He lost his platform.
He lost his reputation and clout.
He lost his "friends."
He lost his sycophants (not a single employee, past to present, has stood up for him).
He likely will lose his house.
And he sure as hell lost his beloved AMEX.

It all went up like flash paper.

A decade of bullying and abusing people in every way possible has, at long last, ended. What an epic and enjoyable-to-witness fall from grace! Ten years ago, Disney WorldCharacters sang this lunatic's praises in the Dis anniversary video. Remember that? Today, he couldn't get a resort valet to park his soon-to-be-repossessed car.

I'm not sure how this feeding frenzy surrounding Werner managed to turn inward, but I prefer to congratulate everyone on this board. Especially Sean, Dustin, and tangentially Charles, Stephen, and Jenilynn, who all revealed their own hellish experiences working for this giant douchebag.

Take a moment for a victory lap, people.

A Toast: Ding Dong the Bitch is dead!!
 
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The Mando

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I came on here to say that I was going to stop following this because I didn’t think it was good for my progress. I took a break from tattle a few months back and it pulled me out of the headspace, but coming back and catching up and seeing the transcript, I don’t think I can stop now.

I get this was 2008 and times were different, I know at some point I’ve probably said something that wouldn’t fly now that was normal back in the day. When I was a kid ‘queer’ was pretty offensive and now the word is the standard for a whole community - not sure where that happened, if there was a gay vote on that I missed it.

That said, my husband Razek completed his immigration from Venezuela in 2018 and Pete bought him a gift, which was a shirt that said ‘I only look illegal’ - which my husband found really funny and wasn’t offended at all but he really rolled the dice on that one. But my husbands brother came to town to visit and he redid some wiring at Pete’s house to set him up for fiber (I assume was what happened, I’m not tech savvy) but he finished and Pete was like ‘oh I love how you latins know how to do that stuff - if you’re able to move over here permanently I can use a new house cleaner’ and his brother was like ‘I know how to do that because I have a masters degree in electronic engineering’

I was like damn Pete, why’re you offering him a cleaning job of all things?

Then at some point (maybe 2020-2021?) Pete wanted a new assistant and contacted my now husband for the job. I told him not to take it but he had just left his job at a school in celebration and decided to give it a shot, it lasted 2 days. On the second day he was supposed to be done with work and Pete asked him to drive him to the barber shop for a haircut, so he said he would and Pete had him hold his purse throughout and kept calling him ‘the help’ and ‘bag boy’ and my husband started snapping back at him, so Pete fired him. Which was for the best.

Pete doesn’t treat women or POC people very well at all and it’s consistent. Even our agent Danielle with MTO, he called her an unwashed pig and made her cry and then because she has a mental illness that she has medication for (and is fine on the medication) but she casually mentioned that she thought she was getting to a point where she could come off the medication and be ok but would be consulting with her doctor (just casually mentioned at lunch) Pete told me ‘you know if she goes off her meds, we have to let her go’ and I said ‘well she doesn’t work for us, she works for the broker, so we can’t make her stop being a realtor but also she’s been on the medication since she was a teenager - if her doctor says she’s mentally well enough to stop her meds we can’t force her to stay on them. She’s already said the medication makes her brain foggy so she wants to come off it if she’s ok’ and Pete was really against it and said she was ‘under your direct care and if anything happens, it’s on you’ - I explained to him that she’s under her doctors care and that it’s not like she’s a danger or anything, she just has a mental issue that she’s needed medication for.
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Apparently Craig gave another update on Patreon a couple of days ago saying Pete only stepped down but still has ownership in the company. Anyone have access and can share more info?
Until Pete’s ownership is sold, he is still the owner. You can step down from a position and stop receiving a ‘salary’ for your work, such as hosting the show. But you are still entitled to an equal share of profit because you are still the/an owner.
 
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The Mando

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You were saying?

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These are the kinds of posts you don't respond to. You take a screen shot, save it somewhere safe, then just let it ferment a little.
Idk this webmaster but I don’t get why she’s saying we’re getting love and support from friends, family and internet strangers. Obviously it’s visible that people are supportive but the only people on Dreams staff that have reached out to me are Craig and one Dreams agent. I don’t know this woman but I certainly don’t think she’s knows what kind of support I’m receiving to speak in a place of authority on the subject.
 
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pnxcoco

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Sean and Dustin y’all inspired me to take a stand at work today. My supervisor is very moody, nasty and dumps all her work on others, yet rarely gets to work before noon: Put my foot down after 16 years, enough!
 
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Maleficent50

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So we here on tattle are so awful? In that case roll me in sugar and call me a sociopath.

I joined Tattle because frankly it’s the only place on the tinterweb I can actually say what I want about grifting nobodies “influencers” “YouTube stars” without censorship.

and it’s the only place Sean and Dustin could go to have their voices heard over rape/drugging/sexual assault/financial and emotional abuse. That we know about so far.

Let that sink in lurkers who are reporting tales about us over on the other board.
 
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This gets into separating the artist from the art type of argument. It's a delicate balancing act and I can see arguments on both sides.
Beyond your generous definition of "artist," I think there is an important distinction: I can separate Phil Huxtable from Bill Cosby, or Alvy Singer from Woody Allen.

Those are fictional characters on screen.

Here, however, we're watching Pete Werner, the actual person interacting with actual victims: He's renting an entire movie theater to impress Charles, whom he hoped was gay, so he could bed him during a very vulnerable moment in his life. He's talking to Jenilynn Knopp, a single mom of three whom he was tormenting behind the scenes and openly mocking on camera. He's talking to John Magi, who he's trying to bilk out of $900,000 in AMEX charges. He's blubbering over a traumatized Dustin West, whom he groomed, drugged, and raped. He's interacting with Sean, whom he mentally and emotionally abused (including threatening to out to his dying father). He's flirting with Oliver, whom he refused to give a night off to visit with his family visiting from overseas, then berated in front of his colleagues.

These are real people suffering actual abuse. Personally, I can't separate the "artist" (aka, professional cupcake critic) from these horrors with a scalpel.

I say delete it all, the whole sick, twisted opus.

Scrubbing Werner's egomaniacal digital footprint is probably a worse punishment for him than going to prison.
 
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The Mando

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And this brings up the million dollar question. What kind of civil liability could the DIS/DUT as a company potentially be facing for their actions, or inactions, in regards to Pete's criminal acts? That's generally where the deep pockets are - companies, not individuals. Even if those pockets turn out to be not as deep as they'd like us to think, surely they must have had some kind of insurance? Maybe you business owners would know?

I know Sean said he already talked to an attorney; I hope that Dustin (and any other victims who may not have come forward yet) do as well, and that everyone explores all criminal and civil options that may be available to them. Against Pete individually, but also against the DIS/DUT, now that more and more people are speaking up about questionable (at best) workplace practices.

Disclaimer: I don't work in Florida, or in this field, but a friend forwarded me the following:

This is the SOL in Florida for civil SA:

FloridaFla. Stat. § 95.11(7), (9)Within seven years after the age of majority, within four years after the person leaves the dependency of the abuser, or within four years from the time of discovery, whichever occurs later
In my case, Pete would request a jury trial and the minute escort comes up, I lose. I’ve accepted that but Dustin might have a shot and I can support the testimony.

The only thing of Pete’s I would want is his dogs.
 
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TheNextStacey

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Should we add Webmaster Kathy to the wiki? I'm a little conflicted because I don't want to give her publicity or attention, but she does have a role in the overall culture. Give me a thumbs up to add or sad face to vote nope.
 
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Thunderbirdtoo

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Scroll to the bottom of the DUT web site:

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Click the BBB ACCREDITED BUSINESS link. It takes you to the BBB web site:

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You can't make this stuff up!
 
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dlsoc

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I'm a formerly active member over on the DISboards and I can attest to the opposite to what is being said there. While there are a few intelligent, well mannered and friendly people over on the DIS (I still frequent one thread with nice people I've gotten to know) the bulk of them are there only to make sure they get what they need and no one one-ups them. They don't hold back on attacking anyone who does not add to what they need.

Examples of posts:
  • A post about how to earn money for a trip. The OP was thrashed for suggesting she/he needed money more than them.
  • A person offering hints on how to cheat the refillable cup system went viral with praise. ... They're sick to the point that they caused Disney to change the system entirely.
Here we do have some mean folk who exist for spite, but for the most part what I see are humans with brains calling out and trying to figure out shitty behavior.
I used to post regularly but stopped contributing to anything but a couple of the Resort threads to answer questions mainly due to the mods being so bitchy (especially in the Theme Parks thread).

I hope Sean is enjoying vacation. I was worried when we hadn’t heard from him in a while.
Sean posted today...

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eonxblue

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I feel like if Charles has known for years that Pete had hidden cameras and that he had drugged Dustin he is just as bad as John for not speaking up. Shame.
this is why I hate that this thread title has Charles’ name in it. I don’t want to give him more attention than he deserves for lying by omission to people for years.

not that the thread title matters, but jeez it sucks and i cant believe nearly 50 people voted for it. sorry @DISbored but what were you thinking FIGHTING for it loll
 
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