I bleeping hate Disney adults as a gestalt right now, at least.
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No idea. As I said, all were purchased by Werner, as a single man. You'd expect points purchased for business use, even if comped back to employees or senior staff, would have been purchased under the corporation. That's not a blur, that's an erasure.
Orange County (FL) Comptroller/Recorder (Disney World Resorts):
http://or.occompt.com/recorder/web/
I can find my own DVC loan and payoff info on this site, but if Pete financed, he did not do so through Disney Vacation Development (Disney themselves) or he did not use Pete/Peter Warner as his name.
Yes, I believe he put it all on the Amex.
Pete needs some tough love right now. Time to process, learn, and figure out who he wants to be moving forward. That's all any of us can do when we make mistakes of our own. I guess having somebody on his side is nice, but there's nothing wrong with other people wanting to distance themselves. Both reactions are valid.
Gutless and chickenshit.
John (and his wallet) have spoken! Corey is getting in line.
Correct.
He says he paid $128 per point (after incentives) in the opening of this video. He traveled with his brother and family, Panda and the Si Disney team. He says he had a grand villa as well as a two bedroom, a one bedroom and a studio for a week (plus a hotel room) -- which would likely be more than a year's worth of points. The contracts might be stripped and therefore worth even less on the resale market.
They're not going to be able to move forward without taking accountability for the past. His sentiment is on the right track, but they're relying on an audience who have other options, and are at odds with the business practices and ethics. This isn't just an oopsie that can be ignored.
Re-emerge better at… concealing his crimes?
Corey, Another thing making it challenging to move forward and focus on solutions is not dealing with the Kathy situation. You could have helped put that fire out 24 hours ago. The whole voices matter and dedicated to addressing concerns routine is interesting considering the earlier deleted threads, and the continued reports from users on that site indicating posts are being deleted. Also when is there a 2 week time limit on threads? There have been some that have lasted for years!
I mean, that's how we got here in the first place, right? Gutless John and Chickenshit Corey distancing themselves from Predator Pete instead of confronting him and putting a stop to his exploitative, abusive employment policies?
Everyone seems to agree that John's statements are tone deaf while Corey's statements are a little more sensitive to the situation. I don't think, however, that either of them are not communicating with each other and just throwing statements out there that haven't been bounced off the other. I believe that people have totally blasted John's statements and Corey is now playing the "good cop" role.
I also believe that one of the "crumbs" that Sean has dropped out there is Pete's gambling which hasn't been considered here too extensively.
I also believe that one of the "crumbs" that Sean has dropped out there is Pete's gambling which hasn't been considered here too extensively.
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I'm not buying that $128 number. Even now, with every possible discount available and stacked, you can get right at $50 per point off Aulani ($217 down to $167), and that includes the value of "free points" they are offering, the Magical Beginnings" program, where you rent your first year's points back to DVC, a developer credit, and a "Dream it Forward" referral credit. I've never seen or heard of an equally large stacking of discounts prior to now. I don't remember what the actual incentives were in December of 2021, but getting $73 off ($201 down to $128) seems to really be a stretch. Of course, Pete would never lie...
I wouldn't doubt the contracts are stripped, either from borrowing or rented out, at this point.
I’m about to myself. It’s really bothering me and I know it shouldn’t but I’ve enjoyed the Disboards. I can’t however get behind the censorship and standing behind a webmaster who can get away with anti-semantic remarks without even so much as an apology
One post and roughly ~5-10 minutes based on my experience
What is funny about closing that thread is that it basically is right on par with the way the company is run.
After Webmaster KKKathy went off the rails, a rational company would have put out a statement like
"We do not agree with the actions of this individual and measures have been put in place so that that individual will no longer be a moderator on these boards. We appreciate your privacy as this is an interal matter we are working through".
Instead we get threads disappearing and reappearing with edited posts and no mention of the bitchmaster. In their minds we are peons that have no right to know what her status is.
Just like their website, this company is straight out of 1995. They have no idea how modern corporations are run.
With that attitude I give them 7 years before all their current clients are too old to travel and have no use for DUT. The boards will continue to decay by 10% or so each year.
They had a chance here to moderize the company and make it a Disney Lifestyle brand for 2023. Turns out they are happy being a Disney Lifestyle brand for 2000.
After Webmaster KKKathy went off the rails, a rational company would have put out a statement like
"We do not agree with the actions of this individual and measures have been put in place so that that individual will no longer be a moderator on these boards. We appreciate your privacy as this is an interal matter we are working through".
Instead we get threads disappearing and reappearing with edited posts and no mention of the bitchmaster. In their minds we are peons that have no right to know what her status is.
Just like their website, this company is straight out of 1995. They have no idea how modern corporations are run.
With that attitude I give them 7 years before all their current clients are too old to travel and have no use for DUT. The boards will continue to decay by 10% or so each year.
They had a chance here to moderize the company and make it a Disney Lifestyle brand for 2023. Turns out they are happy being a Disney Lifestyle brand for 2000.
I found some last night. He bought 4 Riviera contracts on August 17th 2022, all financed at $16400 each. There is a lot more activity but that’s as far as I got.
Attachments
Werner NOT Warner
Shows how much I've ever paid attention to his majesty.Thanks for that!
It wouldn't surprise me if their agents ask what size ticket book their clients would like to purchase.
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