I believe with nipple shields it is quite common for them to take in a wee bit of extra air, which is a shame as obviously you can’t just go without them. While I don’t wish to tar every health visitor with the same brush, I’ve never yet met one who would be qualified enough to rely on for a proper breastfeeding assessment. If you’re willing, definitely get a bf consultant out because they will be able to give you the specialist help you need xYeah she is showing signs of reflux, I'm still having to use nipple shields because of her tongue tie but the health visitor checked my latch and said it was fine. Thinking of getting a bf consultant to check before I give up completely
I've to see if this works and if not then they will explore the cmpa avenue
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Will they not fix the tongue tie? You can have it done privately for not a huge amount.Yeah she is showing signs of reflux, I'm still having to use nipple shields because of her tongue tie but the health visitor checked my latch and said it was fine. Thinking of getting a bf consultant to check before I give up completely
I've to see if this works and if not then they will explore the cmpa avenue
Having been there, struggling and struggling with bf, I would try with a bottle of formula for the Gaviscon. It probably goes against all the advice but if you’re at the end of your tether with it, that formula feed to reduce the amount you have to bf might give you a bit of breathing space. If you chose to stop it’ll be bottles full time anyway which is a skill in itself for them so even if you ease in.
establishing bf is pretty much the most challenging thing I’ve ever done since it’s both physical and mental at a time you’re recovering physically and mentally from birth, dealing with the hormones, new thoughts and feelings, self doubts etc but 6 months in we’re still at it, it truly does get easier… but also, don’t run yourself into the ground with it. I wish I hadn’t in many ways, those early days were totally compromised because of it which is regretful x
Have booked for a consultation so hopefully I can get to the bottom of this either way! Its weird because she's soooooo content today, like I've never seen her this content since I've had her, which makes me question if it's reflux cos surely it would be constant?! Or do you get good days and bad with it? So many what ifs
They have said it's not bad enough to fix because she can still latch somewhat. Will look into getting it done privately though.
I'm not sure if it needs to be given every time we feed so I'm not sure if one bottle of formula would work
I've came so close to giving up so many times with it but also feel like I've got this far and I'm being silly by giving up so easy, but you're so right it does compromise the early days and sometimes I do wish I'd just gone formula from the outset.
My refluxy baby would struggle every day in the early days with it, but now at 7 months he will have days where he's fine and not in any bother. On others, like Monday, I can tell he's having a refluxy day as he's crying lots, naps are very very short - I guess as it's uncomfortable lying back, and just grizzly all day. So I'd say they can have good and bad days with it, though for us in the early days it was pretty much just tricky days all the time.Have booked for a consultation so hopefully I can get to the bottom of this either way! Its weird because she's soooooo content today, like I've never seen her this content since I've had her, which makes me question if it's reflux cos surely it would be constant?! Or do you get good days and bad with it? So many what ifs
They have said it's not bad enough to fix because she can still latch somewhat. Will look into getting it done privately though.
I'm not sure if it needs to be given every time we feed so I'm not sure if one bottle of formula would work
I've came so close to giving up so many times with it but also feel like I've got this far and I'm being silly by giving up so easy, but you're so right it does compromise the early days and sometimes I do wish I'd just gone formula from the outset.
Baby boy won't settle unless he's being held.. any advice? I'm so desperate for sleep
Have booked for a consultation so hopefully I can get to the bottom of this either way! Its weird because she's soooooo content today, like I've never seen her this content since I've had her, which makes me question if it's reflux cos surely it would be constant?! Or do you get good days and bad with it? So many what ifs
They have said it's not bad enough to fix because she can still latch somewhat. Will look into getting it done privately though.
I'm not sure if it needs to be given every time we feed so I'm not sure if one bottle of formula would work
I've came so close to giving up so many times with it but also feel like I've got this far and I'm being silly by giving up so easy, but you're so right it does compromise the early days and sometimes I do wish I'd just gone formula from the outset.
I’m glad she is having a good day
enjoy it! I’m sure the consultant will be able to help you out well, and I’ll be interested to hear what she has to say. I am surprised they haven’t snipped the TT if it’s causing enough trouble that it permanently interferes with feeding. And they wonder why so many people have to change to formula feeding, such poor support. You are doing absolutely wonderfully. Persevering when you are just so knackered with bf, and run down from having an unsettled baby, is really a testament to your strength and determination
sending love. Unfortunately that’s very, very normal. Did you read up about the 4th trimester? Have you got a sling? Also make sure OH is taking over for you, and don’t be afraid to take yourself off for a nap xx
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Thank you so much for all your adviceI’m glad she is having a good day
You are doing absolutely wonderfully. Persevering when you are just so knackered with bf, and run down from having an unsettled baby, is really a testament to your strength and determination
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(and everyone on this thread, it's so supportive!) I will report back when I see the bf consultant, hopefully she can fit me in early next weekIt could be to do with targets in my trust but I was basically told to say it was affecting my mental health and it’s the only way to get anything done. I absolutely hate people who lie the get treatment but it wasn’t a lie, I was feeling like I’d failed at the most important thing my baby needed from me so I did and they took action.
The combination of negative affect on MH and the fact I was going to give up BF (which they definitely are targeting) meant they gave me the appointments they’d previously denied and cut the tie that they’d previously said wasn’t needed.
It may be worth telling them you’re going to stop bf to see if they’ll take action
I don’t know myself but have often heard a hot water bottle removed before laying him down to warm the crib, something that smells of you in there and white noise can really help.
If my girl keeps waking when I put her down I find a teddy tucked up/on her so she can feel something next to her for a few mins helps too.
Did you tell your HV or the GP?
It is so tough but super normal in the early days, I know at the time it can feel exhausting but it does pass. Can you safely co sleep, so he is next to you and can sense you're there? It was a life saver in the early days for me as we had the same. Have you tried swaddling? As may make them feel nice and snug. One thing I wish I'd done more of is accept offers of help to have the baby, even for an hour, so I could nap. If you have anyone close, other half, parents etc, do take them up on the offer if you feel comfortable to do so.
HV - I was referred to the bf support team who called and said they had nothing. I said I’d wait but they said they couldn’t book me. Went back to the HV again and she managed to get me an appointment a few days later where they said everything is ok-ish so it must be the tie causing me pain so they’d address it. Got an appointment to cut it within a couple of weeks later.
Great thanks for this, will mention to my HV when I next see her
Having the same problem hun xx
We had same problem, I co slept for a few nights but have found that swaddling then laying down with her for ten on the bed while she's swaddled and transferring her works. I've also got a snuz cloud that plays white noise and I think that helps
Try putting a muslin in the crib that has your smell on it, you could wear one for a few hours a day and tuck it in the mattress xx
I forgot to mention, yesterday when I was in the park on another mum date, my boy started getting whingey so I had to feed him. I was sat on a park bench with tits out (who am I?! 
) and an elderly woman passed in her wheelchair shouting 'WELL DONE FEEDING YOUR BABY! IT'S GREAT TO SEE! IT WILL GET EASIER!' ...so I guess that was nice?!
) and an elderly woman passed in her wheelchair shouting 'WELL DONE FEEDING YOUR BABY! IT'S GREAT TO SEE! IT WILL GET EASIER!' ...so I guess that was nice?! Hahaha that made me chuckle at least it was positiveI forgot to mention, yesterday when I was in the park on another mum date, my boy started getting whingey so I had to feed him. I was sat on a park bench with tits out (who am I?!
I have the Shnuggle bedside crib and I think it was just far too big for him because it was like he was having an exorcism. We then put him in a Moses basket and that kinda helped for a while, but we've now resorted to co-sleeping. My partner has been on the couch which I feel terrible about, he says he doesn't mind as long as we're getting sleep but I still feel bad, so I think I'm gonna try put him back in his crib. Though every time I have tried it's failed and I actually miss sleeping with him so I just put him back in my bed! When co-sleeping, he sleeps 10pm-4am/5am, has a feed, then sleeps for a few hours which never seemed like it was possible in the early days but like other people have said, it does get better!
Daytimes are still difficult, he still only sleeps on me or in the bed where I'll try to nap with him too.
I had this up until last week (and still during the day tbh) - during the day a sling worked (although it may not help you nap, it gives you free hands!), at night we co-slept for a bit and then I moved to swaddling her. Initially I gave up on swaddling because I had those premade swaddle bags and she HATED them but I tried a blanket on a whim one night and she settled almost instantly, so now I pop her in her crib when she’s sleepy after a feed with a dummy. We have a next to me and I lie slightly down the bed so I’m super close to it and I also put her in a sleepyhead in the next to me (I know they’re not recommended but I did my research) which helps her settle. Also white noise! Ultimately it’s really normal, he just wants to be close to you - I know it’s the worst to hear because it doesn’t really help now, but it does get better!
That’s amazing!! I have had my boobs out to half the country at this stage and am not bothered by feeding in public, but if anyone shouted that to me I’d die of embarrassmentI forgot to mention, yesterday when I was in the park on another mum date, my boy started getting whingey so I had to feed him. I was sat on a park bench with tits out (who am I?!
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