monga
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They think it may have been circulating for years, it has mutated to a certain extent and may have been put down to other conditions until it was flagged recently.
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Merpedy
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Oh for sure, but it was never a point of discussion that was pursued by WHO/journalists which says a lot in what they think the spread is. Though it's worth noting that it took a few days/weeks to admit that COVID was airborne despite that being a major discussion point (at least from what I remember) also - though that may also be connected to China seemingly wanted to save face/downplay the severity of everything a bit
monga
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It is strange especially as the UK seems to be more affected than the rest of the western countries yet had the flimsiest lockdown
rainbowlemon
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The real conspiracy theorists wouldn't be there fighting for that last bag of pasta.
Brigitjonesbuttcheek
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Does anyone know if monkey pox is one of those things that are in rats and squirrels in Europe but we just don't come into close enough contact with them, or does it only exist in Africa.
Because the outbreak is all in Europe, it doesn't look like it's comes from Africa. Which makes me think it's jumped from an animal here into people. Or we've lost some sort of immunity we had before.
Because the outbreak is all in Europe, it doesn't look like it's comes from Africa. Which makes me think it's jumped from an animal here into people. Or we've lost some sort of immunity we had before.
rainbowlemon
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As they always said "context": 
Pretty good for a population of 11,045,411 . Something like 0.036 %.
520,000 people living with HIV .
Pretty good for a population of 11,045,411 . Something like 0.036 %.
520,000 people living with HIV .
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Brigitjonesbuttcheek
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So that's my line of thinking.
Why now, surely people with monkey pox have come to Europe before. Why now has it caused spread in Europe. The covid years created massive change in the world, remember when they showed all the rivers and seas go clean from the boats not running. Human behaviour changing that drastically for 2 years must have some sort of knock on effect.
When I said food I more meant someone with the pox packaging or picking the food contaminating it, rather than food actually being a carrier.
I don't wanna open a kettle of fish but maybe it's worse in the UK because we are very multicultural. You can also buy bush meat pretty easily London.
dajeelingdarling
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I genuinely wasn't worried about this as everything I read said that you needed like mega close contact and that generally everyone recovers without an issue. When I read things like this, it makes my stomach flip. Doubt anyone will be suggesting monkeypox parties? I remember chickenpox parties when I was a kid ha.
I live abroad and not sure I can go through another round of closed borders, travel restrictions and bizarre testing and quarantine rules. Might be time to bring my careers closer to my family - but hopefully it won't come to that.
We have hardly had time to breathe after the devastation caused by COVID (and the restrictions imposed because of it).
Emmelina Ball
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Oh dear here we go again!
rainbowlemon
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I was gonna post that too.Nein
That's treatable with antibiotics nowadays .
If anything at least there’s some good monkeypox memes in the meme thread.
My money is on a Taylor swift clone.Nein
That's treatable with antibiotics nowadays .
greenvelvet
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I've read that authorities are investigating the possibility it may be linked to a rave or something similar at a Gay Pride event in the Canary Islands. You can imagine that people being squashed together in a sweaty, confined space might lead to the spread of the virus. It's equally possible that whoever had monkeypox attended the event, had sex with someone they met there, and then it spread from there, especially if that person had sex with multiple people that weekend. Virologists don't currently think it's sexually transmitted specifically - it's just prolonged, close contact that does it. Gay and bisexual men are more likely to be in prolonged close contact with other gay and bisexual men than with straight men and women, so you can see how it would spread through the community.
Warpaint
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Ohhhh right, I didn't even know that was still running
kev1974
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The replies on that are tasty! Not much faith left in the WHO it seems.
Prefrontalmedialcortex
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That is correct, they are closely related hence the use of the smallpox vaccine against monkeypox.Am I understanding correctly that at the moment the monkeypox vaccine is simply the smallpox vaccine because the two viruses are so closely related? I scrolled through the articles above and did some googling and that’s the only answer I’ve gotten
rainbowlemon
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Far too much pandering to china and you have to wonder why.
In the early days China also asked the NIH to remove data about covids structure.
This was only admitted after two years and after publicity shaming another scientist who brought it up.
Technically though “it wasn’t deleted just not made available. “
Chinese researchers removed key Covid-19 gene data from NIH database - The Economic Times
Jesse Bloom, a virologist at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle, described the removal of the sequencing data in a new paper posted online on bioRxiv on Tuesday. The paper, which hasn't been peer reviewed, flags concerns that lack of the key gene sequences may dent the current...
Two years later :
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Jesse also believed that the virus did not come from a market....
monga
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It’s the same vaccine they don’t have a targeted Monkeypox vaccine.Am I understanding correctly that at the moment the monkeypox vaccine is simply the smallpox vaccine because the two viruses are so closely related? I scrolled through the articles above and did some googling and that’s the only answer I’ve gotten
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