Monkeypox

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Some good threads about Monkeypox from virologists and doctors:
(some graphic images of poxviruses)




The consensus seems to be that it's not really dangerous and is spread through close contact. Fortunately, it is closely related to smallpox, which we already have a vaccine for, and there are lots of antivirals available that could help. The smallpox vaccine is suitable for this and for other poxviruses, but we stopped vaccinating against smallpox in the UK 50 years ago after over 100 years of doing so, once we successfully eradicated it. This means the public's immunity to poxviruses like this one is waning. Chickenpox is apparently not a poxvirus, BTW.

From what I can gather, virologists and doctors aren't so much concerned that monkeypox will become an epi/pandemic - it's more that it transmitting at all is proof of our vulnerability to poxviruses (like smallpox). The fact we haven't been able to trace it shows it is spreading undetected. Poxviruses' adaptability means they can jump from animals to humans, and there are loads of nasty poxviruses that affect animals out there. Virologists see it as another sign we should be doing more to limit zoonosis and transmission - for instance, by improving sanitation around animal agriculture and yes, bush meat - and procure vaccines and antivirals.

TL;DR: Monkeypox itself is likely not that dangerous, but is proof of our growing vulnerability to poxviruses, and a reminder that we should put procedures in place to build our defences against poxviruses. Fortunately, unlike with COVID, we have plenty of suitable defences available to us. We just need to start using them.
 
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It’s being passed exactly like that ,but it’s airborne aswell so anyone can catch it if they’re near an infected person, it’s also a 12 day incubation period before symptoms show so people can be infectious without knowing it.
it’s not an STI - it’s shown to be spreading about the gay male population for some reason but researchers are hesitant to specify it as an sti

its also not airbourne
“Human-to-human transmission is thought to occur primarily through large respiratory droplets. Respiratory droplets generally cannot travel more than a few feet, so prolonged face-to-face contact is required. Other human-to-human methods of transmission include direct contact with body fluids or lesion material, and indirect contact with lesion material, such as through contaminated clothing or linens.” (Taken from CDC website)

i swear news outlets are devastated covid is on the wane and have latched onto a monkey pox as a new way to whip up hysteria, which is why I’m avoiding the rag that is the Daily Mail at all costs.

i used to be able to roll my eyes at it, but it’s gone into the territory of plain harmful reporting (especially during the pandemic and the aftermath when it whipped up hysteria, was extremely divisive, spread disinformation, blamed the NHS, the public sector and made excuses for MPs) and does the British public a real disservice.
 
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it’s not an STI - it’s shown to be spreading about the gay male population for some reason but researchers are hesitant to specify it as an sti

its also not airbourne
“Human-to-human transmission is thought to occur primarily through large respiratory droplets. Respiratory droplets generally cannot travel more than a few feet, so prolonged face-to-face contact is required. Other human-to-human methods of transmission include direct contact with body fluids or lesion material, and indirect contact with lesion material, such as through contaminated clothing or linens.” (Taken from CDC website)

i swear news outlets are devastated covid is on the wane and have latched onto a monkey pox as a new way to whip up hysteria, which is why I’m avoiding the rag that is the Daily Mail at all costs.

i used to be able to roll my eyes at it, but it’s gone into the territory of plain harmful reporting (especially during the pandemic and the aftermath when it whipped up hysteria, was extremely divisive, spread disinformation, blamed the NHS, the public sector and made excuses for MPs) and does the British public a real disservice.
I know it’s not an STI anything carried on the breath is classed as airborne as a sneeze or cough can be contagious.
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Some good threads about Monkeypox from virologists and doctors:
(some graphic images of poxviruses)




The consensus seems to be that it's not really dangerous and is spread through close contact. Fortunately, it is closely related to smallpox, which we already have a vaccine for, and there are lots of antivirals available that could help. The smallpox vaccine is suitable for this and for other poxviruses, but we stopped vaccinating against smallpox in the UK 50 years ago after over 100 years of doing so, once we successfully eradicated it. This means the public's immunity to poxviruses like this one is waning. Chickenpox is apparently not a poxvirus, BTW.

From what I can gather, virologists and doctors aren't so much concerned that monkeypox will become an epi/pandemic - it's more that it transmitting at all is proof of our vulnerability to poxviruses (like smallpox). The fact we haven't been able to trace it shows it is spreading undetected. Poxviruses' adaptability means they can jump from animals to humans, and there are loads of nasty poxviruses that affect animals out there. Virologists see it as another sign we should be doing more to limit zoonosis and transmission - for instance, by improving sanitation around animal agriculture and yes, bush meat - and procure vaccines and antivirals.

TL;DR: Monkeypox itself is likely not that dangerous, but is proof of our growing vulnerability to poxviruses, and a reminder that we should put procedures in place to build our defences against poxviruses. Fortunately, unlike with COVID, we have plenty of suitable defences available to us. We just need to start using them.
Smallpox for thousands of years in all likelihood, absolutely decimated human populations across the world. If it didn’t kill you it would blind you, or leave you horrifically scarred or maimed.

The smallpox vaccine is one of those things I think about every so often and feel in awe that we’ve managed to create it

I know it’s not an STI anything carried on the breath is classed as airborne as a sneeze or cough can be contagious.
i didn’t think they were classifying it as airbourne because close contact was needed but maybe I misread!
 
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Smallpox for thousands of years in all likelihood, absolutely decimated human populations across the world. If it didn’t kill you it would blind you, or leave you horrifically scarred or maimed.

The smallpox vaccine is one of those things I think about every so often and feel in awe that we’ve managed to create it



i didn’t think they were classifying it as airbourne because close contact was needed but maybe I misread!
It’s not as transmissible as covid as it’s a very slow moving infection ,but there is risk ! Especially to pregnant women, children and other vulnerable groups ,the faster they contain it the better.
 
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I have deja vu.
Likewise but it went away after I tutted and rolled my eyes.

If it persists, there are a number of treatments, including but not limited to large mugs of cocoa, tankards of gin etc, and whilst hiding under a fluffy blanket isn't a requirement it might help.
 
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Can we have a other lockdown?

Lockdown 2022 : MonkeyPox Edition
This time with free cheesecake for all. No clapping for the NHS, clapping for solicitors and legal profession instead.
Laws are introduced, but they're very much optional.
And every one isn't allowed to gather at all whilst gathering to drink copious amounts of PG tips.
Vaccines out next year. Side effects include: Constant and unending erections in males.
Swollen breasts in females.
And everyone talks like a pirate, me hearties.
 
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The amount of reports on this monkey business is getting a bit carried away for the tiny amount of confirmed cases. Would anyone seriously get the smallpox vaccine or lockdown or isolate for 3 weeks all over a mild illness?!

We’ll be clapping on the doors by next Thursday! Don’t forget to have your rainbow paintings ready
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The amount of reports on this monkey business is getting a bit carried away for the tiny amount of confirmed cases. Would anyone seriously get the smallpox vaccine or lockdown or isolate for 3 weeks all over a mild illness?!

We’ll be clapping on the doors by next Thursday! Don’t forget to have your rainbow paintings ready
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yeh because you’re reading the DM! Not exactly known for its measured and reasonable approach to stories!

overall though the coverage of it is pretty exhausting. I’m so sick of the MSM in this country. Journalism used to be respected and prestigious (mostly), now most journalists seem to spend their time staring pile ons on Twitter.
 
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The amount of reports on this monkey business is getting a bit carried away for the tiny amount of confirmed cases. Would anyone seriously get the smallpox vaccine or lockdown or isolate for 3 weeks all over a mild illness?!

We’ll be clapping on the doors by next Thursday! Don’t forget to have your rainbow paintings ready
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That statement could cause WW3 on certain threads 😂…I wonder how many free beds they have in NI 🙄🍌
 
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yeh because you’re reading the DM! Not exactly known for its measured and reasonable approach to stories!

overall though the coverage of it is pretty exhausting. I’m so sick of the MSM in this country. Journalism used to be respected and prestigious (mostly), now most journalists seem to spend their time staring pile ons on Twitter.
Trust me I’m not reading the DM 😂😂 someone else did and screenshotted it and it caught my eye on Twitter. To be fair though all the papers and news outlets are saying similar things. Lots of scaremongering, just read one blaming meat eater for monkey pox 😂 I don’t trust any of the MSM. Anyone that does after the covid coverage doesn’t get any respect from me😬

That statement could cause WW3 on certain threads 😂…I wonder how many free beds they have in NI 🙄🍌
Hopefully the monkeypox won’t make it through our robust and secure borders and ni protocols 😂😂😂
 
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I've read that authorities are investigating the possibility it may be linked to a rave or something similar at a Gay Pride event in the Canary Islands. You can imagine that people being squashed together in a sweaty, confined space might lead to the spread of the virus. It's equally possible that whoever had monkeypox attended the event, had sex with someone they met there, and then it spread from there, especially if that person had sex with multiple people that weekend. Virologists don't currently think it's sexually transmitted specifically - it's just prolonged, close contact that does it. Gay and bisexual men are more likely to be in prolonged close contact with other gay and bisexual men than with straight men and women, so you can see how it would spread through the community.
 
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High consumption of cat and dog meat in china too.
Nigerians eat bushmeat too. Not every Nigerian, but in certain parts of th country they eat bush rats and monkeys too. Pretty wild what goes on in certain parts of Africa or even certain African countries.

I was looking into Hadza, the hunter gatherer tribe, and due to the Maasai farmers encroaching on land that was previously hunted on by the Hadza, the Hadza tribe have started eating Baboon for their meat.

Some scientists went out there and lived their way of life for a while, and they said that baboon is ok, especially the brain, which they boil up and it has a sweetness to it. I'd try it haha.
 
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