Monkeypox

[Brigitjonesbuttcheek]

Movie Outbreak with a young Dr McDreamy.

Also there’s the one with Bruce Wills 12 monkeys.

12 monkeys a man releases the virus at airports .
The order or the 12 monkeys has nothing to do with the virus, Bruce Willis just thinks they do.

The virgins will inherit the Earth.

And the monogamous

Maybe the church have released it to encourage marriage!

 

[monga]

 

[Merpedy]

Am I understanding correctly that at the moment the monkeypox vaccine is simply the smallpox vaccine because the two viruses are so closely related? I scrolled through the articles above and did some googling and that’s the only answer I’ve gotten

Monkeypox in the U.S.

Learn more about monkeypox in the United States.

www.cdc.gov

 

[monga]

As it’s usually more common in africa. The death stats would also reflect those countries where the healthcare may not be on the same level as us.

Would they be better able to cope with it as they're exposed to it more than the EU countries ,would they have a level of immunity ?

 

[ChilliBean]

Don’t know which is worse the vaccine or disease hopefully it’ll die out if it’s more severe.

How could a vaccine be worse than the disease?

 

[Emmelina Ball]

No, I’ve been keeping up with the latest of what the scientists and researchers are thinking is the most probable cause. If lockdowns were the cause, they wouldn’t still be investigating it. Latest from WHO is that aetiology is unknown.

Acute hepatitis of unknown aetiology in children - Multi-country

www.who.int

Oh I’ve no doubt you have, what else would you be doing with your day. There is a link. I didn’t say it was the sole cause. I said there was a link. You don’t believe that to be true and that’s fine we don’t need to go back and forth on it.

 

[monga]

Monkeypox outbreaks tied to sex at 2 raves in Europe

Most of those infected are men who have sex with men.

www.livescience.com

There doesn't seem to be a 'trustworthy' source (such as BBC) covering this part but it's interesting as:

Monkeypox: Doctors concerned over impact on sexual health

Staff at sexual health clinics warn the virus is already stretching the workforce in many places.

www.bbc.co.uk

I remember I read this article and knew straight away that sex was going to play an important part in this

I've also seen articles mention the sexuality of people who have tested positive for it which feels a bit weird, we never did it for COVID after all

Maybe because covid was widespread throughout the population .

 

[monga]

Seems to be slowly creeping into the media the way Covid did. Also seen it being discussed on the news a few times.

Hopefully nothing to be worried about

Monkeypox: Israel, Switzerland and Austria confirm cases

Scientists are still unsure what is causing the outbreak, which has now spread to 15 countries.

www.bbc.co.uk

We're already discussing it in the covid vaccine /general vaccine thread.

 

[rainbowlemon]

Would they be better able to cope with it as they're exposed to it more than the EU countries ,would they have a level of immunity ?

Actually I think you’re right. Most doctors wouldn’t really recognize diseases more specific to other countries and super rare in ours. I remember reading an article about one of the MMR ones as - the doc hadn’t seen a single case before so had no clue.

 

[rainbowlemon]

I Don't have the initial G or F in my name

German though ?

 

[footylass2021]

They don't know where it's come from ,they think a patient zero who was asymptomatic could be the cause as it not endemic in western animals that they know of .
It could be down to some sort immunity loss when you think of the rare hep cases in kids of unknown origin ,they're still no closer to finding a cause for that either.

Not sure if I’m missing something but wasn’t the first case of it from Nigeria where he contracted it and then contact transmission happened once back in the uk

 

[monga]

They keep telling people not to worry yet seem to be moving a lot behind the scenes

Covid, a war, monkeypox, anything else?

Kids Mystery Hepatitis.

First case in Scotland, the rest are in England

 

[monga]

I don’t think there’s any plan maybe that’s why?

 

[Doctor_Wibble]

I see it hasn’t been updated in years which is particularly helpful to all of us that like the thrill of a surprise

The joy of the unexpected

That's just the risk assessment process, it might actually be a good thing that they haven't had to keep changing/fixing it!

 

[monga]

And the stories start:

https://mobile.twitter.com/i/events/1534119120186314755

‘I dodged Covid but caught monkeypox': a Londoner’s surreal ordeal.

George avoided Covid for two years, despite working on the frontlines, but found himself at the forefront of a concerning new outbreak

Darn you beat me to it monga.Didnt see your post.

Great minds ....

 

[monga]

There are many viruses that are severe to certain groups that doesn’t mean an entire class should isolate because one person has it.

The more we keep “isolating” and attempting to “contain” viruses, the weaker the populations immunity will be as a whole. Look around at the childrens hepatitis cases - they are linking it to lockdowns. Think of how many more things like this will happen if people aren’t allowed to get sick anymore. Monkeypox for the majority of people is a mild illness and should be treated as such. If someone doesn’t want to take the risk they can stay at home but an entire class shouldn’t lose out on education because one or two are sick.


We had chickenpox in my sons class a few months ago. We didn’t receive any official warning. It was talked about in the parents group chat. Half the class got it and half didn’t. It’s just part of life! There is a vaccine but it’s not given routinely on the nhs because it isn’t appropriate to do so. Children with chicken pox help adults retain their immunity so it’s helpful for the population for children to get chickenpox whereas if they are vaccinated their immunity can wear off and they can suffer more severely themselves with chicken pox or shingles.

Like I say it’s the risk to pregnant women I would find more concerning, look up Monkeypox in pregnancy, it doesn’t make for good reading , also kids can’t have the Monkeypox vaccine ( as far as I’m aware) so the damage of sending kids to school with Monkeypox could be great.

 

[Tublet83]

I am not here for this thread 🫠

 

[monga]

Ok thanks for clarifying, that’s were I disagree with you. I feel that only sick people should stay at home and they should have freedom to return when they feel better - like they do with other illnesses.

That’s fine ,we all have different opinions .

 

[monga]

Yep! Smallpox vaccines are also offered to people working in labs - before monkeypox became a headline

Any wonder health workers are running a mile when they’re offered it
There’s a reason why it’s called the most dangerous vaccine known to man, I’d rather they’d try and contain the disease ( Monkeypox) as offer the cure

The Most Dangerous Vaccine

<b>Dan Rather</b> Reports On The Debate Over Safety Of Smallpox Vaccine

www.cbsnews.com

 

[265]

I was reading this from the Daily Mail.

https://www.archive.is/oldest/https...UK-monkeypox-cases-surge-two-three-weeks.html