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sydneymae

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Apologies in advance for any questions I might ask that have been discussed in this thread already - I have just stumbled across this thread and have barely skimmed it yet.

I haven’t followed Liv since a few years ago so was unaware she had a divorce and has had a child. When did the divorce and baby happen and we know the reasons they split? Is the baby both of theirs? Is she in a new relationship? Is she still best mates with that woman she used to have a podcast with? I can’t remember her name..

I’m not sure what people’s opinions are on Liv but I’ll share mine along with my experience meeting her and Joe a few years ago..

I used to listen to Olivia’s podcast with her mate whose name I can’t remember. It was one of the first podcasts I started listening to and quite enjoyed the simplicity of it for background noise or whilst I was cleaning. For the most part I liked it however, in almost every episode, I found myself a bit put off by quite judgemental, snobbish comments they would both make about others. It’s almost like they put themselves up on this pedestal and put on a front for supposedly being nice girls who had a safe space for their followers yet were the type to speak down on someone behind their back. Or in their case.. indirectly on their podcast. However, I still kind of enjoyed Olivia as I found her to be pleasant enough to listen to the rest of the time.

Anyways. A few years ago I was at a large event and had got chatting to some of Liv’s friends and creators who were a bit similar to her. Then Liv turned up with Joe and I’m not even sure how to explain it but the two of them sauntered in and appeared to stay away from everybody else including liv’s friends - it’s like they had a real air of superiority to them. Or so they thought of themselves. It was really bizarre. And let me tell you that Joe had the most unsettling and creepy vibe about him which again I’m not sure how to explain but I wasn’t the only one who picked up on it. Since then, any time I’d see his face on her social media it would send a shiver down my spine. There’s something very off about that guy, yuck.

Finally at one point they both decided to interact with all of us (very) briefly and because I had a few drinks in me I complimented Liv and said that I was a fan of her podcast. She looked me up and down and smiled an inauthentic somewhat bitchy smile and turned away from me. I remember feeling so small and embarrassed that I’d even complimented her and told her I was a fan of her podcast when in reality I’d mainly use it for background noise anyway 😂 But yes every since that interaction, I’d stopped listening to that podcast or following her Instagram.

Sadly, a few of the other girls who are friends with or mutual bloggers/youtubers (or at least were well known back in the day) I have heard are much of the same. I was told some really nasty stories about some of them from fellow creators who had also initially looked up to these girls. Very disappointing stuff!
 
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uola

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Cheering Arlo up this morning? What's going on? I am not a fan of cryptic messages. Say it, or don't.
She has a very charmed and privileged life, hard for me to relate. Influencing it's her only source of income (eBay aside), so, I guess she feels like she needs to post, but many of us still need to go to work, after divorce or personal losses.
 
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Shutterbug99

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Reading that article, you would never known she had ever been married. She makes it sound like she found the house with the help of her mum and moved in there alone. She talks about redecorating the front room, which happened soon after they announced their split, if I recall, and she's made it into a much more feminine space. This seems like the obvious space to mention her marriage split - but it seems like she doesn't want to mention it at all and has possibly also asked the journalist to omit any mention. Maybe this is her way of dealing with the split, but it does feel like Joe has been somewhat erased from her life, and makes me think that there's more to their split than simply 'growing apart.'

The above is not meant to be critical of her - it's just an observation. I know she likes to keep things private.
 
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TravellingPants

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He looks like a completely different person to the photo above
I thought that too and came here to compare! I think it could just be a case of film photos being very flattering and in the story posts he had longer blonde hair that really doesn’t suit him. You can see a bit of it in the left of the polaroid… I’m 99% sure she doesn’t have a second new boyf ready for a hard launch within weeks…?

She did have a story up about writing more about love and dating so maybe we will get a bit more info about what went down. I do find it fascinating how many very long term relationships seem to break down quickly after marriage / kids.
 
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bellbells16

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Have followed Liv for years and years (since around 2012) and have always really liked her. But it really annoyed me a few weeks ago when she finally admitted to rehoming Maggie because she couldn’t cope with her a few years ago…only to go get a new puppy this week.
 
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penny1992

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I wonder was Arlo a bandaid baby? That never ends well. Or if they had any little cracks then the stress of a baby maybe have been too much.
 
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majestic26

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I'm not a fan of turkey teeth and actually like the shape/crookedness of them - it's not about that.

They are very yellow and have so many calcium marks. They don't look very normal to me?
I think we get so used to seeing overly bleached white teeth that we start to think they're the norm. Her teeth aren't the whitest but some people's aren't naturally, just like nails. Some people just have a more yellow tinge to them.
 
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Shutterbug99

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I think it's really sneaky and quite bad form of Liv to do that! She really flies under the radar as far as influencers go, but this shows there's possibly another side to her (as I've always suspected!) I'm still curious as to the reason for the split with Joe too - if there was any drama etc. which I suspect there was as it all seemed a bit out of the blue - but I guess we'll never know.

Nobody even really speculated much on Liv's split whereas on the Niomi Smart thread people are still speculating on why Dreamy Joe dumped her 2.5 years ago!
 
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tatty400

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Ok surely there is quite a lot more to this considering they are all deleting their Instagram accounts?! If they wanted privacy surely they’d just make the account private not delete the whole thing?
 
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Shutterbug99

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When Liv announced the split, I did think it was rather sudden after her 'first family holiday' posts a few of months previously. That said to me that this wasn't a gradual growing apart but that something else had happened to cause the split...

I doubt we'll ever know the full story though.
 
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timefortea82

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It really puts me off influencers when they sell things they got for free unless the money goes to charity. That Liv does it through her dad's account seems like she's trying to hide it so possibly knows it would look bad to some people?
I love that LucyParts and Laura Capon do a massive town hall sale every year for charity, so there’s at least 2 beauty influencers/bloggers that recognise their privilege and do something good.
 
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clueless

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Aw her post- she is lovely and I wish her the best. She has a great support network of family and good friends around her and she will get through this.

I wonder why he would delete his Instagram entirely, it seems a bit extreme? Though I don’t know how often he used it or anything.
 
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ECH

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I feel like early summer was her having her 'so what if I'm single, it's fine' phase and now the reality is sinking in for her.
 
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ECH

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Reading that article, you would never known she had ever been married. She makes it sound like she found the house with the help of her mum and moved in there alone. She talks about redecorating the front room, which happened soon after they announced their split, if I recall, and she's made it into a much more feminine space. This seems like the obvious space to mention her marriage split - but it seems like she doesn't want to mention it at all and has possibly also asked the journalist to omit any mention. Maybe this is her way of dealing with the split, but it does feel like Joe has been somewhat erased from her life, and makes me think that there's more to their split than simply 'growing apart.'

The above is not meant to be critical of her - it's just an observation. I know she likes to keep things private.
I think it's just a natural part of the grieving process when you lose someone from your life to pretend they don't/didn't exist. Obviously it's harder to do when you're ferrying a child between two parents, but I can get why she wouldn't want to mention him now.
 
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Roseannanna

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I feel truely rude and nosey! But wanting to know Liv is ok… she mentions her health as well. I hope liv doesn't read this and if she does I think she needs to know her followers care for her. It’s weird how I find her so human and normal compared to most of the the people I have followed on instagram for many many years.
 
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Bebevomit

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But I do think it’s odd that either Liv or Joe blocked one another on insta (before his account was deleted). Liv no longer followed any of Joe's accounts, all traces of her interacting with them had vanished - No likes, comments or tags of her on his instas. If it was a mutual decision and they both were accepting of the fact that their relationship had run its course blocking seems a bit weird.
I co-parent with my ex amicably, but when we spilt I unfollowed on everything and deleted all photos with him/removed mentions.
Even with a child, social media is so invasive so I would guess that seeing Joe’s posts/stories is not helping at this time. Almost 4 years later, I still don’t follow my ex but he watches my stories and it makes me feel like I have to censor my IG. If I knew he would react reasonably, I would block him without a seconds hesitation.

Liv’s situation is a lot more nuanced than mine, a mere pleb on IG. She’s made a living publishing her life online, so to rescind that access now needed to be addressed. I think she’s handled it well and don’t feel comfortable speculating, but wish her the best. I’ve been a single mum since my child was born, it’s definitely hard but better than being unhappy in a relationship.
 
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