Jack Monroe #560 Publication cancelled

[MediumLoad]

Oh man, I will never forget that! I did feel bad for him for about 5 minutes. Just googled him and what a massive shocker he works at the BBC now. It's such a cliche. The number of journalists and presenters who say "oh gosh I never meant to work in tv/journalism it just happened shortly after I graduated from Oxbridge" in interviews who just so happen to also be middle class and have the right look/background/connections/parent in media and won't admit that any of that helped them get to where they are. (Claudia Winkleman, I love you, but really. You didn't just accidentally end up on the telly).

So Jack did well to get her coupon on TV at all, because she didn't actually have those connections initially. But she really was given massive opportunity after massive opportunity once they discovered she ticked all the right boxes at that moment. What a shame she couldn't use it for an actual career.

From what I remember, The Guardian hung him out to dry when we worked out that his dad was a travel writer who had done work for the paper. His father then wrote an article denouncing us all as ebil trolls. I'm sure his dad, or a 'friend' turned up in Comment Is Free as well in a desperate attempt to control the narrative.

And all this back in the dim and distant 2008. Nothing changes does it?

 

[moldwarp]

From what I remember, The Guardian hung him out to dry when we worked out that his dad was a travel writer who had done work for the paper. His father then wrote an article denouncing us all as ebil trolls. I'm sure his dad, or a 'friend' turned up in Comment Is Free as well in a desperate attempt to control the narrative.

And all this back in the dim and distant 2008. Nothing changes does it?

The “friend” turned out to be a troll. He was very funny. But yeah the dad wrote an article about how tragic and dreadful it all was, and how Max had had a tewwibly rocky start to his gap yah in India. In 2008 c 55% of Indians lived below the poverty line, just to pop Maxy’s travails into some sort of perspective

 

[marjorytrashheap]

his story is that it was cheap content at the alter of “reader engagement” and, like most journalists, he’s a lazy hack who takes the easy option.

He did not foresee a backlash

I'm not surprised he didn't forsee a backlash, seeing as this sort of content still gets used all the time! The Times just published a feature by some posh writer who - shock horror - went to the darts and found out people were human. Charlotte someone, can't remember who it was now. But it's standard.

My partner is an ex-journo (but not posh so had to actually work) and he said he'd usually be the only state-educated person in the room when he worked at nationals - and even on London local papers this was the case. So there's just generally a very narrow life experience in journalism. But anyway yeah, editors are always desperate for online content, and I think back in 2009 or whenever the Max Gogarty thing was, there wasn't social media to provide much of it. Any old thing will do!

 

[Archduchess of Luxembourg]

The first thing I do when I buy clothing from the charity shop is take the tag off and wash it. There's no way that would have been hanging about in her wardrobe with the 50p tag still on it until the day she decided to wear it.

But we've seen her hands. There is every chance she didn't even wash herself that day, let alone that jacket.

 

[SouthendRealEstate]

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This says a lot, doesn’t it. It’s not the fact that they only cost £6 (even though we all know they didn’t), it’s that, despite constantly being on the verge of eviction/starvation/bankruptcy, she spent good money on shoes that she had no use for.

 

[MurielSnark]

The “friend” turned out to be a troll. He was very funny. But yeah the dad wrote an article about how tragic and dreadful it all was, and how Max had had a tewwibly rocky start to his gap yah in India. In 2008 c 55% of Indians lived below the poverty line, just to pop Maxy’s travails into some sort of perspective

I hadn't heard about this case as I was up to my eyeballs in a very demanding job in 2008 and wasn't reading BTL comments. But this article came up immediately after I searched for the guy. It's the Guardian writing about itself so the perspective is clearly their editorial voice. Interesting though, especially because Twitter was new then (or hadn't arrived yet?) and the self-policing and community policing around online engagement was still in its infancy.

ETA: be warned. The word "gauche" is deployed.

Hate mail hell of a gap-year blogger

Cyber-bullies who attacked young author have been accused of creating 'tsunami of hate' by his father. By Caroline Davies

www.theguardian.com

 

[I'm not actually here]

'Bubble bath' in a squash bottle Wasn't there a public information film about kids drinking bleach stored in a lemonade bottle?
Of course, she didn't have a child in the house most of the week. Hope the bubble bath got used up before Tuesday mornings.

I miss the Tuesday chaoi. Good times good times.
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Just dropped in on the Mumsnet thread, and there is a post this morning about a thread about bread. As I read it, it reminded me of the sorts of escalations guest used to be capable of on the Hellsite.

Anybody know if there is an American version of Mumsnet where she might be hanging out these days to get her narc supply?!

 

[Naboo The Enigma]

I mean it’s this kind of thing that reveals the truth, which is that she’s never really been poor, she has a spending addiction. GENUINELY poor and unfairly waged people don’t need to bother with performative tit like announcing New Year’s resolutions not to spend anything or giving themselves Saturday wage packets because the money IS SIMPLY NOT THERE. They will spend what they have because that it all they have. Anything extra goes towards the kids or the house or paying down debt or just a nice treat like a night out. You don’t need to announce that you’re going to stop spending, because you don’t have the money to spend.

Jacks entire story from the house sale to present day is a story of a spending addiction which regularly lands her in the red, causing her to panic and grift. And fair enough spending addiction is a real problem, there are 12 step groups for it and it can wreak havoc on the sufferers life and family. But it’s not the same as being chronically unfairly waged and/or economically disadvantaged from a structural class perspective, which is what she claims to be an expert on.

Ironically she could have been a better and more successful public figure had she been honest about her spending addiction and talked about her struggles and treatment. There’s definitely a gap for that because with social media constantly urging us to buy shite we don’t need, a lot of people are vulnerable to falling into this addiction, especially younger women.

One million percent this.

I think she struggled with budgeting when she first left home, which let's be honest, most of us do. I know most of my paycheck for the first few years of my working life went on Boots' make-up counter and Topshop, and I did end up in debt with catalogues and store cards. The difference is, I only had women's magazines and TV telling me to buy stuff, where now it's Insta, Tiktok and constant ads on your phone.

It's also completely understandable that if you've been struggling for a while, getting a lump sum in your bank account can make you go a bit mad with your spending. Universal Credit is a good idea in principle, but when you're scraping by for 3 weeks of the the month, it's so hard to not just think duck it - I deserve to have nice things, order a takeaway, go to Primark, and there goes your rent. I've been there too.

It's a moot point though, because she has never been poor, and I personally don't believe she's ever claimed benefits either.

 

[Geetbo]

One million percent this.

I think she struggled with budgeting when she first left home, which let's be honest, most of us do. I know most of my paycheck for the first few years of my working life went on Boots' make-up counter and Topshop, and I did end up in debt with catalogues and store cards. The difference is, I only had women's magazines and TV telling me to buy stuff, where now it's Insta, Tiktok and constant ads on your phone.

It's also completely understandable that if you've been struggling for a while, getting a lump sum in your bank account can make you go a bit mad with your spending. Universal Credit is a good idea in principle, but when you're scraping by for 3 weeks of the the month, it's so hard to not just think duck it - I deserve to have nice things, order a takeaway, go to Primark, and there goes your rent. I've been there too.

It's a moot point though, because she has never been poor, and I don't believe she's ever claimed benefits either.

I’m absolutely shite with money so I have some small sympathy with her there. The difference is I have a job and don’t scam people.

 

[Naboo The Enigma]

I’m absolutely shite with money so I have some small sympathy with her there. The difference is I have a job and don’t scam people.

Geet I didn't recognise you!

 

[Geetbo]

Geet I didn't recognise you!

I’ve had a glow up x

 

[MancBee]

That’s what finally tipped everyone over the edge in Autumn 2022 when @WhyYouCry? posted guest’s latest vacuous insta story and everyone began triangulating her ludicrous knob (NOT cock) drawer.

OG fraus had done an amazing job of her ludicrously priced/ridiculous volume of possessions before, but that 2022 knob drawer led to much enthusiastic/increasingly incredulous of her possessions and @That Forensic Man’s FORENSIC documentation of the £150,000+ stocktake (which is just the tip of the iceberg, no doubt) we see in the wiki today.
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Jack Monroe #406 Foodbank Anna Delvey

Currently one month into my 13 week premature baby’s stay in NICU 🔺and this does not look like a baby that’s that premature. They look like little old men and aren’tyet at the chubby cheeks stage. Also why only one tube presumably for oxygen? Clothes on? Where’s the extra wires for heart rate...

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Jack Monroe #406 Foodbank Anna Delvey

What a weird caption. I've never had to clarify that my pets are my own.

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I have just one question.

Why would anyone buy all those knobs and then just chuck them into a drawer? It's bizarre behaviour.

I may have had a glass of wine.

Just the one?

 

[BlendedSlop]

Isn't it the 2 year anniversary of the Vuvuzela Barrage Interlocutor announcement soon? Maybe she's timing the big reveal for then?

I’ve had a glow up x

Aud's looking well x

 

[Cat Face]

I’ve had a glow up x

Looking well, beb x

 

[For the truth]

Why and when did the Guardian column dry up?

 

[I'm not actually here]

I take it she's not in that singer thing then?!

 

[KebabGirl]

I take it she's not in that singer thing then?!

Don't think so. No nasal tones.

Don't judge me for watching!

 

[Lumpyspaceprincess]

It doesn’t matter if something is cheap, if you don’t need it, you don’t need it. It’s the ultimate actual money saving hack.

All that furniture she has makes me believe she’s still in the bungamansion. I cannot see her giving all those up to downsize.

 

[Geetbo]

I take it she's not in that singer thing then?!

Air fryer didn’t try to get Davina to sign up to her patreon so I’m thinking no.

 

[SendReceive]

Why and when did the Guardian column dry up?

Guest’s last column for the Guardian was in June 2022:

Poverty leaves scars for life – I’m still scared of strangers at the door and bills through the letterbox | Jack Monroe

Denying people their needs to save a few quid is a false economy, says campaigner Jack Monroe

www.theguardian.com

It’s the usual solution-free poverty porn fare, complete with a list of her own (claimed) ailments needlessly inserted in the middle of it.