Jack Monroe #171 Just discovered her and think she’s horrid

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It's this idea that "lived experience" is more important than expertise. The truth is that it is and it isn't. Take another situation: yes, we should listen to cancer patients talking about their experience, but not at the expense of ignoring oncologists.

It's particularly bad when the "lived experience" is coming from someone who self-diagnosed with the help of Dr Google, which a great many of these Twitter types tend to be. That's when we start getting "I knew I was autistic because I don't like mushrooms" and all this dangerous nonsense.

ETA: comments on that autism post:



I don't know whether to laugh or cry at "all the expertise you've gained on Twitter".
 
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L3moning

As I've said before, I have Asperger's Syndrome. I dont claim to be an expert on autism. I dont even claim to be an expert on my own personality, because it makes no fucking sense, even to me at times.
 
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Cookiecookie

L3moning said:
As I've said before, I have Asperger's Syndrome. I dont claim to be an expert on autism. I dont even claim to be an expert on my own personality, because it makes no fucking sense, even to me at times.
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That's a good point. Lived experience is a valid and important thing to acknowledge, but because it is so deeply personal, sometimes that 'outside' voice is needed for balance.
 
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Emmapism

She only mentions deadlines when she needs an excuse about why she can't respond to something she posted for attention
 
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MancBee

Thanks to everyone for the kind words and thoughts, really appreciated.

Op all done in about 4 hours, so a little more complicated that they had anticipated, they said it would be over in an hour. The painkillers and local anaesthetic are doing their job thank goodness. The general anaesthetic lingered so I had a great night's sleep. Fingers crossed it has been successful. I have had a quick look and it looks brutal, goodness knows how they manage to get such huge bruises in places nowhere near where the operation site is. Onward and upward, need to get home now.

Talking about grey hair, the nurse thought I was a famous chef using a false name. It was a private hospital (I was NHS of course) so it might well have been. I asked her who she though I was and she said Marcus Wareing. I hadn't a clue, so Googled him.

I had to admit, some of the pictures I really thought were of me! Now either he looks old for his age, or I look very young. I think it is probably a bit of both.

Off for a read of the pages I missed.
 
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colouredlines

Glad to hear that!

I bet you were crossing your fingers that she didn't say Antony Worrall Thompson...
 
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BeautifulTrauma

That is the most self indulgent load of twaddle I have read in a long time.

"co-parenting a safe, happy, secure, intelligent child". But that's not true is it Jack? Because he wasn't safe when you were selling his toys to buy beans to rinse for his dinner was he? He wasn't happy when he needed food that you couldn't provide? He wasn't being co-parented because his father wasn't aware of any issues. You self indulgent little bastard, social services should have had you for basically malnourishing your son because you were too pig headed to tell your family.
 
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Harrybosch

What a compliment! Marcus Wareing is
 
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veryfondoftea

Evening everyone, just popping in to say I’m 36 and a half and I found my first grey hair last year on July 18th. It was thick and white and wiry and I yanked the bastard straight out.
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What a compliment! Marcus Wareing is
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Was just gonna say this!!
 
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ChampagneBox

veryfondoftea said:
Evening everyone, just popping in to say I’m 36 and a half and I found my first grey hair last year on July 18th. It was thick and white and wiry and I yanked the bastard straight out.

Was just gonna say this!!
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You’re 10 years older than me and only just found your first? 🥲 some people have all the luck lol in 6 months time I’m going to be full on grey
 
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MancBee

And what does it matter how intelligent her child is? Would it have changed anything if her son wasn't intelligent. Surely that has no bearing on the situation. Or should we only find compassion for mothers of intelligent children?

I see her nonsense has not diminished with the years.
 
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Captainmouse

I must be the ‘maverick' here. I do colour my hair, but I am going very grey/white, but it is not coarse, wiry, wavey. It’s just like the rest, long, dead straight
 
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waffle maker

@MancBee the glamour of being Marcus Waring! Brilliant! We don’t like him much because he seems to be against the minority contestants on master chef and is always telling them they have cooked their own traditional foods ‘wrong’. He’s also mad about lamb. Loves eating lamb. He would have Jack for breakfast.
 
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moosesauna

I don't understand these accounts that make their entire focus & personality centre on their mental illness/neurodivergence. I thought that most people wanted to think less about their poor mental health and work on being able to live a 'normal' life despite any symptoms? I've seen a lot of teenagers base everything on their depression/anxiety etc and that seems fair enough due to their age, but when adults do this constantly and even monetize it, it just feels odd. Perhaps it's because a lot of people I've known (including myself) have really struggled through mental illness, and wouldn't even dream of making some quirky post about how cute and unique sufferers of their MH issue are?
 
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PoorPatrol

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So glad you’re ok, it’s horrible that it was more complicated than expected. Are you able, or wanting, to stay in a bit longer to recover? You hit the crappy jackpot with private X NHS for an op, I say that with total understanding that it’s never ideal to be having one in the first place. I’ve had loads in NHS and two private.

Last operation I had, I was howling and clawing at the carpet in my RENTED house just thinking about it. I’ve had loads of operations before and was not feeling great about another one. Then they told me it would have to be at a private hospital.

Manc, Mate. I got there and was like little orphan Annie, when she gets to Daddy Warbucks’s house and starts singing “I think I’m gonna like it here!”. The fish supper after the op was like silver service! It wasn’t even cooked in its own freezer juices, which is just bizarre I eventually got wheeled out of there and chucked in a cab after begging successfully to stay an extra night.
Disclaimer: yes I fully get the problematic situation of NHS/privatisation etc etc etc

On topic with Jack, I wish she’d keep her facetuned nose out of autism. I don’t believe she has it, for one. If she does, then she totally misunderstands her diagnosis. She uses it as an excuse for everything, and doesn’t seem to be able to distinguish autistic traits from sheer tomfoolery.

Being autistic definitely qualifies that guy to talk about his experiences of autism. A diagnosis does not, however, qualify anyone to become some kind of figurehead or spokesperson for the condition, unless they are also fully trained and have studied extensively. There is research and careful work to be done, before you can speak on behalf of a whole community of people.
 
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