I got blocked in 15 seconds. That's got to be a record! He's obviously sitting eating for comments
I meant waiting not eating. Freudian slip
I meant waiting not eating. Freudian slip
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We got a quick fix of swearing, drama, leary behaivour, dodgy sales tactics and misinformation. I actually didn't want a quick fix at all but I do expect to get what I paid for. However, Kaz doing it for 4 years and putting on weight takes sticking with it to the next levelA group of trolls who wanted a quick fix…
no mr rat! I wish they would name/show one success story who isn’t either paid, employed, of one of the huns.to be fair even the huns who state 8020 has changed their lives said in the academy they lost the weight with other weight loss companies before joining 8020.
None of us left because we didn’t get a quick fix, there is no content, no support. The lives are not supportive or informative.
HGH abuse can definitely cause bone growthGrowth of nose and ears is a side effect of long term steroid abuse. He may be evidence the chin can be affected also?
Very comprehensive analysis, thank you for putting this together. I too remember that infamous office gloating video and thinking “here we go again”. I knew the crash was coming and that it would likely exceed all his prior flameouts. I know it’s only a matter of time before we get more detail on exactly what went down re: the office vandalism!
At this point, most of his traffic is probably from this forum.
Great response shame it was blocked by no surprise there..I got blocked in 15 seconds. That's got to be a record! He's obviously sitting eating for comments
I meant waiting not eating. Freudian slip
The comment hasn't been deleted though!Great response shame it was blocked by no surprise there..
Chief Arse WiperI’ve been commenting on the Question 1/10 post and my comments are being deleted as I type them. Someone’s busy, what’s their job description?![]()
Well hello! You’re an original! It’s actually worse to see he hasn’t changed but it’s good to also know you can have somewhere to vent now xxxHi all,
Newbie here (waves)
I have abandoned my kindle over the last few weeks and have been lurking and read all the threads haha
I don't even know where to start!!
I was a member of 80/20 way back in around 2017 (might have been 2018 I've lost track). It was when Alli was part of his 'champions' along with Gina, Jo, Fran (absolutely no problem with any of these ladies they were taken in by him but were genuine lovely people) and of course Mr R and his team was dave on mindset and Arron as a PT (both great guys and I'm happy to see they have moved themselves away and both appear to be doing great in their fields). I'd followed a few of his lives and thought he seemed good after years of SW. I actually won my place in the academy on one of his give away lives so lucky for me non of my hard earned went in his pocket. I bet lots of those numbers are in the academy are freebies lol. I'm ashamed to say tho I talked some family members into joining up and wasted their money. My mum actually done great but that was only because she paid for 1:1 with arron. At first DW seemed good but then he started to get chaotic. His lives went from talking about nutrition to talking about gambling. He'd sit up all night for online poker tournaments then go awol from the academy. One thing that really started to get on my nerves was him bashing religion and veganism. I'm neither religious or vegan buy I fully respect those who make those choices. I don't see it as a weight loss coach's place to tell people what they should or should not believe in. I decided to do veganuary and posted about it on my own FB page and whanker was straight in my inbox going on one. The way he spoke, the unprofessional lives and the talk of gambling and I'd had enough. I posted saying thanks for the free place and wish everyone the best and I was leaving. One of his big supporters (Or so I thought) messaged asking was I OK. After lots of messages we realised we both felt the same about him. The way he could do no wrong in the eyes of his then hunions- who've mainly all left now. The fact that the before and after pictures posted in the academy didn't actually look any different, how the plan hadn't worked for either of us. I could never put my finger on what it was with him until I stumbled across all this - narcissist - omg absolutely! It all makes sense now haha kaz was a member then and I remember her posting she looked great, she has put so much weight on when I seen the recent lives. I remember her selling dw and kirstie the boxer dog. I heard at the time I was in the academy that dw and k were trying for a baby to try fix their marriage. My goodness that girl had a lucky escape to not be tied to him for life. SR was deffo not as big as he is now, how big is his stomach - I think I'd walk out if I walked into a PT session and it was him stood there. He's deffo piled it on since back then. So I see the plan is working amazingly for him. He used to gush over dw so much it made me sick. He was paying 1:1 to get his attention but calling him one of his best friendsso many people were paying 1:1 and not getting their calls etc but I felt they were all people with really low self esteem who wanted dws attention. I was blocked along time ago - actually don't know why maybe because I left haha buy I was blocked on his insta and fb pages. Can't say I lost any sleep over it. I remember a poor girl who seemed to have a lot of issues who was really struggling. She was asking for help because her doctors had given her advice for a medical condition she had and the advice went completely against dw advice. Of course she was told to ignore her doctors
dan and the then huns kicked off about her and I thought wow she was only asking for help. She was removed from the academy. A few incidents like that happened. I also remember his dabble with trying to sell the perfumes that are just like the real ones (don't know if I'm allowed to mention the company?) And his talk of going to uni to study the planets and space or something like that. Anyway if you've read this far we'll done I've waffled on so much haha ill prob remember lots more as days go on
keep spreading the good word TCHQ
I think we may have crossed paths as I was in the academy around that time, but it was in the groups not the academy. Welcome and thanks for sharingHi all,
Newbie here (waves)
I have abandoned my kindle over the last few weeks and have been lurking and read all the threads haha
I don't even know where to start!!
I was a member of 80/20 way back in around 2017 (might have been 2018 I've lost track). It was when Alli was part of his 'champions' along with Gina, Jo, Fran (absolutely no problem with any of these ladies they were taken in by him but were genuine lovely people) and of course Mr R and his team was dave on mindset and Arron as a PT (both great guys and I'm happy to see they have moved themselves away and both appear to be doing great in their fields). I'd followed a few of his lives and thought he seemed good after years of SW. I actually won my place in the academy on one of his give away lives so lucky for me non of my hard earned went in his pocket. I bet lots of those numbers are in the academy are freebies lol. I'm ashamed to say tho I talked some family members into joining up and wasted their money. My mum actually done great but that was only because she paid for 1:1 with arron. At first DW seemed good but then he started to get chaotic. His lives went from talking about nutrition to talking about gambling. He'd sit up all night for online poker tournaments then go awol from the academy. One thing that really started to get on my nerves was him bashing religion and veganism. I'm neither religious or vegan buy I fully respect those who make those choices. I don't see it as a weight loss coach's place to tell people what they should or should not believe in. I decided to do veganuary and posted about it on my own FB page and whanker was straight in my inbox going on one. The way he spoke, the unprofessional lives and the talk of gambling and I'd had enough. I posted saying thanks for the free place and wish everyone the best and I was leaving. One of his big supporters (Or so I thought) messaged asking was I OK. After lots of messages we realised we both felt the same about him. The way he could do no wrong in the eyes of his then hunions- who've mainly all left now. The fact that the before and after pictures posted in the academy didn't actually look any different, how the plan hadn't worked for either of us. I could never put my finger on what it was with him until I stumbled across all this - narcissist - omg absolutely! It all makes sense now haha kaz was a member then and I remember her posting she looked great, she has put so much weight on when I seen the recent lives. I remember her selling dw and kirstie the boxer dog. I heard at the time I was in the academy that dw and k were trying for a baby to try fix their marriage. My goodness that girl had a lucky escape to not be tied to him for life. SR was deffo not as big as he is now, how big is his stomach - I think I'd walk out if I walked into a PT session and it was him stood there. He's deffo piled it on since back then. So I see the plan is working amazingly for him. He used to gush over dw so much it made me sick. He was paying 1:1 to get his attention but calling him one of his best friendsso many people were paying 1:1 and not getting their calls etc but I felt they were all people with really low self esteem who wanted dws attention. I was blocked along time ago - actually don't know why maybe because I left haha buy I was blocked on his insta and fb pages. Can't say I lost any sleep over it. I remember a poor girl who seemed to have a lot of issues who was really struggling. She was asking for help because her doctors had given her advice for a medical condition she had and the advice went completely against dw advice. Of course she was told to ignore her doctors
dan and the then huns kicked off about her and I thought wow she was only asking for help. She was removed from the academy. A few incidents like that happened. I also remember his dabble with trying to sell the perfumes that are just like the real ones (don't know if I'm allowed to mention the company?) And his talk of going to uni to study the planets and space or something like that. Anyway if you've read this far we'll done I've waffled on so much haha ill prob remember lots more as days go on
keep spreading the good word TCHQ
I think we may have crossed paths as I was in the academy around that time, but it was in the groups not the academy. Welcome and thanks for sharingHi all,
Newbie here (waves)
I have abandoned my kindle over the last few weeks and have been lurking and read all the threads haha
I don't even know where to start!!
I was a member of 80/20 way back in around 2017 (might have been 2018 I've lost track). It was when Alli was part of his 'champions' along with Gina, Jo, Fran (absolutely no problem with any of these ladies they were taken in by him but were genuine lovely people) and of course Mr R and his team was dave on mindset and Arron as a PT (both great guys and I'm happy to see they have moved themselves away and both appear to be doing great in their fields). I'd followed a few of his lives and thought he seemed good after years of SW. I actually won my place in the academy on one of his give away lives so lucky for me non of my hard earned went in his pocket. I bet lots of those numbers are in the academy are freebies lol. I'm ashamed to say tho I talked some family members into joining up and wasted their money. My mum actually done great but that was only because she paid for 1:1 with arron. At first DW seemed good but then he started to get chaotic. His lives went from talking about nutrition to talking about gambling. He'd sit up all night for online poker tournaments then go awol from the academy. One thing that really started to get on my nerves was him bashing religion and veganism. I'm neither religious or vegan buy I fully respect those who make those choices. I don't see it as a weight loss coach's place to tell people what they should or should not believe in. I decided to do veganuary and posted about it on my own FB page and whanker was straight in my inbox going on one. The way he spoke, the unprofessional lives and the talk of gambling and I'd had enough. I posted saying thanks for the free place and wish everyone the best and I was leaving. One of his big supporters (Or so I thought) messaged asking was I OK. After lots of messages we realised we both felt the same about him. The way he could do no wrong in the eyes of his then hunions- who've mainly all left now. The fact that the before and after pictures posted in the academy didn't actually look any different, how the plan hadn't worked for either of us. I could never put my finger on what it was with him until I stumbled across all this - narcissist - omg absolutely! It all makes sense now haha kaz was a member then and I remember her posting she looked great, she has put so much weight on when I seen the recent lives. I remember her selling dw and kirstie the boxer dog. I heard at the time I was in the academy that dw and k were trying for a baby to try fix their marriage. My goodness that girl had a lucky escape to not be tied to him for life. SR was deffo not as big as he is now, how big is his stomach - I think I'd walk out if I walked into a PT session and it was him stood there. He's deffo piled it on since back then. So I see the plan is working amazingly for him. He used to gush over dw so much it made me sick. He was paying 1:1 to get his attention but calling him one of his best friendsso many people were paying 1:1 and not getting their calls etc but I felt they were all people with really low self esteem who wanted dws attention. I was blocked along time ago - actually don't know why maybe because I left haha buy I was blocked on his insta and fb pages. Can't say I lost any sleep over it. I remember a poor girl who seemed to have a lot of issues who was really struggling. She was asking for help because her doctors had given her advice for a medical condition she had and the advice went completely against dw advice. Of course she was told to ignore her doctors
dan and the then huns kicked off about her and I thought wow she was only asking for help. She was removed from the academy. A few incidents like that happened. I also remember his dabble with trying to sell the perfumes that are just like the real ones (don't know if I'm allowed to mention the company?) And his talk of going to uni to study the planets and space or something like that. Anyway if you've read this far we'll done I've waffled on so much haha ill prob remember lots more as days go on
keep spreading the good word TCHQ
So I looked at DW recent TT posts after reading some comments here. Honestly why would he think it's a good idea to make videos implying that potential customers asking genuine questions are annoying idiots.
Exactly! He honestly looked mentally and physically unwell and in dire need of a toothbrushSo I looked at DW recent TT posts after reading some comments here. Honestly why would he think it's a good idea to make videos implying that potential customers asking genuine questions are annoying idiots.
He really is deludedI got blocked in 15 seconds. That's got to be a record! He's obviously sitting eating for comments
I meant waiting not eating. Freudian slip
This totally - I couldn’t quite put my finger on trying to explain what you have said yes he is basically mocking potential customers as the Asker in these latest TTs are all dumb !! Well done Whanker keep it up please you just keep helping the sinking shipSo I looked at DW recent TT posts after reading some comments here. Honestly why would he think it's a good idea to make videos implying that potential customers asking genuine questions are annoying idiots.
I think he is really lacking any real friends... my understanding was that he bumbles through life school to seemingly, now, being an annoying d*ck that has enough charm to have a bubble of hangers on that he doesn't want and annoys the hell out of people he is trying to impress l.Omfg. I started, but I just couldn’t watch the TT car crash. He is so obviously high or having a mental health crisis. It’s so sad, really, that a human has come to this. Please, someone, his friends, help him. It’s so painful to watch. Karma truly is a witch.
I pulled my big girl pants on took a deep breath & went back for a peek...had to watch from behind a cushion!Omfg. I started, but I just couldn’t watch the TT car crash. He is so obviously high or having a mental health crisis. It’s so sad, really, that a human has come to this. Please, someone, his friends, help him. It’s so painful to watch. Karma truly is a witch.
I don’t think it’s possible to have friends when you’re the sort of person to think “what do I get out of them” - and he does. He only wants people around him to kiss his arse. He doesn’t have empathy unless it’s a “woe is me” and he doesn’t care for anyone or anything unless it serves him a purpose.I think he is really lacking any real friends... my understanding was that he bumbles through life school to seemingly, now, being an annoying d*ck that has enough charm to have a bubble of hangers on that he doesn't want and annoys the hell out of people he is trying to impress l.
He has no one to truly save him, I wonder when this cyclic behaviour ends - catastrophically seems to be the only option for him. Shame really.
*Edit*
I mean shame not because he doesn't deserve karma for the suffering he has caused people, more from a human perspective of how someone with this amount of clear self destruction and mental illness tends to end up...
Totally agree... I was saying that in reference to a previous comment saying when will his friends take his access away/tell him...I don’t think it’s possible to have friends when you’re the sort of person to think “what do I get out of them” - and he does. He only wants people around him to kiss his arse. He doesn’t have empathy unless it’s a “woe is me” and he doesn’t care for anyone or anything unless it serves him a purpose.