Zoe Sugg #40 Named her baby Ottilie Rue but we'll still call her Pay, thank you!

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I’m gonna go with Child’s Farm! Think she’ll also be #gifted some of Rochelle Hulmes’ baby products and those biodegradable nappies Emma Bunton has too
 
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I think there'll be more pictures of Ottilie to come. Zoe's posted about ten times on her private since sharing the news...
 
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doubtful. If someone outed my pregnancy to the world when I wasn’t ready to and wasn’t far along in my pregnancy I’d want nothing to do with them anymore either.
 
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I’ve always been of the opinion with the hello world stuff. I think Louise was annoyed as at the end of the day this is work for them & Zoe was refusing to do her part. Which meant there was a good chance people would ask for their money back since she was the biggest known one at the time & ultimately would mean that the venture was a failure. (Which it ended up being anyway).

But I don’t get to not do my job when I’m anxious or overwhelmed and so I can see why Louise wanted Zoe to go on.

Although knowing Louise I assume she wasn’t as tactful or caring about it as she should have been.
 
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It must be absolutely killing Alfie not being able to make the most of cashing in on little Pay.. how long until there’s a future self baby collection he’ll use her for
 
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There’s some speculation on earlier threads that Graham isn’t particularly keen on Alfie. My own personal theory is he at some stage voiced concerns about the relationship and his dislike for Alfie (and the rest of the Deyes clan) and she’s taken the huff with him. I might be wrong but it seems the Zoe thing to do. It might also be connected to her upping for Brighton where she had nobody other than the Deyes. She didn’t really have any friends in Brighton so perhaps he was worried she was isolating herself (which she basically has)
 
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As much as people (including me) talk shit about Zoe on here, I still feel sort of bad that she has chosen to be with a man who sees her more as an opportunity and less like a partner. She's always just been there and there's not a chance in hell he would've stayed with her this long if she wasn't bringing him in loads of money and fans. If she had a smaller career and never hugely took off he would've bounced eight years ago.

I'm not in a relationship myself, but I couldn't imagine being in one, let alone a long-term one, with somebody who quite obviously doesn't want to be there all that much. Wonder if that's what sparked the baby making to happen. We did speculate that they used this baby as a crutch to try and save the dead in the water relationship, but we all know that never works out. I still hope within the next couple years they break up, be great coparents, and each find somebody actually suited to them.
 
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I think someone said Louise also did something similar for Fleur when she was about to give birth (?)

But I 100% don’t think Zoe told Louise she was pregnant. In a vlog from the day they posted their announcement, Alfie said they had only told 10 people prior to that day, and they spent the morning calling friends/family (including Zoe’s grandparents) to tell them the news. After the calls were done, he said he was worried it would be “leaked” even though they had now only told like 25 people. Maybe Louise was in that 25, but I doubt she made the first 10. Though it is possible she heard it through the grapevine (like if Zoe told Maddie, who also works with Louise)
 
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It's kinda weird Zoe would have told Louise in advance.
 
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Yes but after Zoe had announced her pregnancy Louise posted on Ig the pic of Zoe saying 'remember when I said about the baby boom'

I think the problem with Zoe's anxiety is its convenience anxiety like she's ok going to concerts etc but then cant do work shit.
 
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It was almost as though Zoe's anxiety videoxin 2012 really made her. She was already very popular but it absolutely rocketed after that went up.
 
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I was the one asking it at the last thread, so glad here’re some answers, yeah it was weird, I remember she was always visiting her dad or her grandparents but there was nothing about her mom, then one day she started posting about her mother and her dad seemed to disappear…or I just remember wrong.
 
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Convenience anxiety is a crap term. I get that it's annoying when it seems like someone shirks responsibilities and only does the fun stuff, but it's equally understandable why someone who is prone to anxiety would be able to push themselves to do something they consider fun and feel more apprehensive about the things they don't. I used to work with someone who would take 6 months off a year with mental health, but would spend the time having holidays and stuff while the rest of us covered for her. It was horrendous. But, when she got back to work, she was fucking useless because she genuinely couldn't cope.

Don't get me wrong, it's irritating as hell when you also have anxiety and put up and shut up so to speak, but I don't think other people's anxiety is less valid, I just think they are less able to cope with it for whatever reason. Probably because they have never had a reason to, especially in Zoe's case, she's so loaded she could miss loads of commitments and not have any worries about the consequences. Most of us don't have that luxury.
 
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Sorry I worded it worng I meant it comes across as convenience anxiety.
 
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Sorry I worded it worng I meant it comes across as convenience anxiety.
I still think she has significant anxiety, why else would anyone happily live most of their life in the confines of their 4 walls by choice? It might not be anxiety in the way some people traditionally view it, but it's still anxiety to have a fear of anything outside your comfort zone. I think that's part of the reason she settles for Alfie.
 
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Yes I think she has anxiety but I also think she uses it as a excuse when she doesn't want to do something like meet fans.
 
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I think someone said Louise also did something similar for Fleur when she was about to give birth (?)
That's a good point actually. Idk about River being born, but Louise did let everyone know when Fleur's wedding was because she tweeted something like 'congrats on the wedding!!!' when Fleur had clearly been trying to keep it fairly quiet.
 
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