Zoe Sugg #40 Named her baby Ottilie Rue but we'll still call her Pay, thank you!

[StephenTJackson]

He might not be able to, my boyfriend isn’t far from Joes size and is physically unable to put weight on (unless he ate a horrendous unsustainable amount of calories a day anyway). Some men are just like that. It can be really hurtful for them when people point out how small they are as if it’s somehow not manly enough.

He's said before he struggles to put weight on, he's tried "bulking" and it just doesn't work for him. Him and Zoe both have very slim builds naturally, so it is partly their genetics meaning he has a naturally slim build. That's just the way he is.

Like you say, it's pretty hurtful to be so negative about, and body image is a big issue for men, mental health and so called "manliness", can lead to major issues with eating disorders and body dysmorphia, and men ending up in the gym or roiding up to get a so called "manly" body.

 

[jvalentine2189]

RE all the stuff about Alfie not posting about Zoe and how she's doing: is anybody really surprised? This is the vain, narcissistic, look at me Alfie Deyes we're talking about here. Everything is about him, and his little bleeping video series about the partner's point of view shows that. I said before he'll come out with a video all about giving birth from the partner's perspective and he'd DEFINITELY make a video acting like he gave birth himself if he knew he could get away with it. Hopefully little Pay matures him a bit and he doesn't get even worse than he already is.

Zoe might not be the most amazing person in the world, and she has her faults, but my God she doesn't deserve to be with this dimwitted twit, and now she's tethered to Alfie the rest of her life, or at least the next 18 years, because of the baby. Hopefully she realizes within the next couple years that coparenting is a thing and she doesn't have to put up with him anymore and his manchild ways. She can find a great man who will actually love her and be a match for her because Alfie is the furthest thing from a match.

 

[Haya]

Im a bit confused about the private Instagram thing. She did once mention in a vlog that she doesn’t have a private account because “she can’t imaging what she would upload there that she wouldn’t normally upload on her public account” so im just wondering how people knew about the private account and whether it’s confirmed that it’s her’s or not.

 

[milkyways]

Im a bit confused about the private Instagram thing. She did once mention in a vlog that she doesn’t have a private account because “she can’t imaging what she would upload there that she wouldn’t normally upload on her public account” so im just wondering how people knew about the private account and whether it’s confirmed that it’s her’s or not.

why would she openly admit to have a private acc - only to get flooded with follower request?
idk how ppl came to find out its hers- but yeah. of course she wouldnt admit it

 

[Guitarwarrior]

Zoe might not be the most amazing person in the world, and she has her faults, but my God she doesn't deserve to be with this dimwitted twit, and now she's tethered to Alfie the rest of her life, or at least the next 18 years, because of the baby. Hopefully she realizes within the next couple years that coparenting is a thing and she doesn't have to put up with him anymore and his manchild ways. She can find a great man who will actually love her and be a match for her because Alfie is the furthest thing from a match.

I’ve said before I think it would help if she had some actual proper friends that weren’t in anyway connected to YouTube/zoella etc. If someone who’d known her for a longer time than she’d been “famous” asked her if she was truly happy etc. Then she might realise the tit situation she’s in.

Unfortunately I think she’s just stubborn and probably one of the reasons she lacks many pre fame friends and friends who aren’t connected to Alf. Stuffs being said and it’s fallen on deaf ears.

 

[jvalentine2189]

I’ve said before I think it would help if she had some actual proper friends that weren’t in anyway connected to YouTube/zoella etc. If someone who’d known her for a longer time than she’d been “famous” asked her if she was truly happy etc. Then she might realise the tit situation she’s in.

Unfortunately I think she’s just stubborn and probably one of the reasons she lacks many pre fame friends and friends who aren’t connected to Alf. Stuffs being said and it’s fallen on deaf ears.

She did have her Lacock friends who she used to see and the only person I can think of who really knew her before she was famous is that Jae/Jay guy. They worked together back in Wiltshire before she got famous at New Look and was even just at her not a baby shower party so they're obviously still friends and close enough.

I think somebody would really have to break through to her, though. Just asking are you happy wouldn't be enough. She'd lie and say yeah. You'd really have to get in there and have her list what makes her so happy about her life with Alfie and really show her that they aren't great together.

Maybe the baby really will change things for them and her world view. A baby really can make or break a relationship, and given they are already rocky and not built on a great foundation it might be enough to make Zoe come to her senses and realize Alfie isn't her forever man.

 

[Ella-Maja]

She did have her Lacock friends who she used to see and the only person I can think of who really knew her before she was famous is that Jae/Jay guy. They worked together back in Wiltshire before she got famous at New Look and was even just at her not a baby shower party so they're obviously still friends and close enough.

I think somebody would really have to break through to her, though. Just asking are you happy wouldn't be enough. She'd lie and say yeah. You'd really have to get in there and have her list what makes her so happy about her life with Alfie and really show her that they aren't great together.

Maybe the baby really will change things for them and her world view. A baby really can make or break a relationship, and given they are already rocky and not built on a great foundation it might be enough to make Zoe come to her senses and realize Alfie isn't her forever man.

I really doubt that Zoe will come to her senses and realise Alfie isn’t her forever man. Just like a few people here as mentioned before, she’s too comfortable and wouldn’t make any changes that require her to get out of her comfort zone, (aka her non mansion), or that doesn’t involve money. Alfie could literally turn into a bigger twit, and she’d still be around. I do agree with you about the whole rocky relationship and poor foundation, however let’s not forget we’re talking about Zoe. As long as the Deyes family keeps praising her and she’s still the centre of everything, she’ll never have that realisation of Alfie not being her forever man. With or without Pay in the picture.

 

[YoGabbaGabba]

Thought you guys might appreciate this I screenshotted from an article I’ve just been reading about “tacky things parents should avoid doing”

 

[fidgetjo]

I really doubt that Zoe will come to her senses and realise Alfie isn’t her forever man. Just like a few people here as mentioned before, she’s too comfortable and wouldn’t make any changes that require her to get out of her comfort zone, (aka her non mansion), or that doesn’t involve money. Alfie could literally turn into a bigger twit, and she’d still be around. I do agree with you about the whole rocky relationship and poor foundation, however let’s not forget we’re talking about Zoe. As long as the Deyes family keeps praising her and she’s still the centre of everything, she’ll never have that realisation of Alfie not being her forever man. With or without Pay in the picture.

Also let’s be honest we know how she feels about her parents divorce and she was an adult when that happened. I cannot imagine she would be ok with pay growing up with separated parents. She’s been very clear on her picture of a perfect family and I don’t see her walking away from it even if Alfie is the wrong guy for it.

 

[Ella-Maja]

Also let’s be honest we know how she feels about her parents divorce and she was an adult when that happened. I cannot imagine she would be ok with pay growing up with separated parents. She’s been very clear on her picture of a perfect family and I don’t see her walking away from it even if Alfie is the wrong guy for it.

Exactly! It’s so sad tbh. Zoe’s the type of person that holds onto something/someone because she likes the idea of it, rather than she actual thing/person.

 

[cherry198]

Whether Zoe and Alfie’s relationship is good or bad they’ll never split up, I just can’t see Zoe on the dating scene or even out socialising with others.

They do seem like one of those couples that got together young and have just stayed together out of convenience, almost more old friends than lovers. They just don’t seem to have anything in common or any shared interests, nothing that they seem to enjoy doing together.

 

[Ella-Maja]

Whether Zoe and Alfie’s relationship is good or bad they’ll never split up, I just can’t see Zoe on the dating scene or even out socialising with others.

They do seem like one of those couples that got together young and have just stayed together out of convenience, almost more old friends than lovers. They just don’t seem to have anything in common or any shared interests, nothing that they seem to enjoy doing together.

Exactly, that’s why I said that she’ll never come to her senses and realise that he isn’t her forever man. Even if they break up, it will probably be Alfie that leaves the relationship (meal ticket), because he’s more daring and is capable of perusing a new significant other. Ugh as much as I hate to admit that about him

 

[S1920]

I really doubt that Zoe will come to her senses and realise Alfie isn’t her forever man. Just like a few people here as mentioned before, she’s too comfortable and wouldn’t make any changes that require her to get out of her comfort zone, (aka her non mansion), or that doesn’t involve money. Alfie could literally turn into a bigger twit, and she’d still be around. I do agree with you about the whole rocky relationship and poor foundation, however let’s not forget we’re talking about Zoe. As long as the Deyes family keeps praising her and she’s still the centre of everything, she’ll never have that realisation of Alfie not being her forever man. With or without Pay in the picture.

Just curious as I see it fair bit here. Where did the "non mansion" reference come from? Was it referred to as a mansion sometime?

 

[fidgetjo]

Just curious as I see it fair bit here. Where did the "non mansion" reference come from? Was it referred to as a mansion sometime?

The dailymail did... and whilst it's mansion-esque it's not actually a mansion, just a quite large home.

 

[S1920]

The dailymail did... and whilst it's mansion-esque it's not actually a mansion, just a quite large home.
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Ahhh thank you!!! I wouldn't call it a mansion either although obv she has done very well for herself in that regard.

 

[Lemontree04]

So are Zoe, Alfie and Poppy the only ones who are doing digital detox day?

Even Dianne and Joe have been online and used social media today

 

[quipawiticism]

Exactly, that’s why I said that she’ll never come to her senses and realise that he isn’t her forever man. Even if they break up, it will probably be Alfie that leaves the relationship (meal ticket), because he’s more daring and is capable of perusing a new significant other. Ugh as much as I hate to admit that about him

I feel like he’s too greedy to leave his meal ticket. I am honestly rooting for Zoe to leave him. It would give me a bit more respect for her. But like I said… she is clearly a person who needs comfort in her life above all else.

 

[hannah1799]

Ebony day is also following her private account, I swear they haven’t seen each other for years?



Definitely depends! I had a c-section and couldn’t drive for 6 weeks, I also am a single mum so no one could drive for me. I had home visits for 4 weeks.

Well yes of course it depends on personal circumstances but that is the general process

 

[Anneliese2199]

Also let’s be honest we know how she feels about her parents divorce and she was an adult when that happened. I cannot imagine she would be ok with pay growing up with separated parents. She’s been very clear on her picture of a perfect family and I don’t see her walking away from it even if Alfie is the wrong guy for it.

I didn’t know she was an adult when her parents got divorced. I know nothing about it but reading here looks like she’s upset and even bitter about it? I hope this isn’t exactly the case, but I won’t be surprised if it is or once was. If the answer is yes, it makes me think even less of her. She wasn’t a child. If she’s blaming her parents and thinks that her idea of perfect is ruined because of them, then she’s extremely selfish and immature. We should be able to recognize what’s real and what isn’t, and support everyone’s peace… Sometimes it looks like Zoe is competitive even with her own mother. I’m not aware of her traumas but you will never find healing if you keep passing the blame on someone else. Maybe her parents made mistakes but this should not be an excuse for not taking responsibility for yourself as you grow.

 

[coconochanel]

I didn’t know she was an adult when her parents got divorced. I know nothing about it but reading here looks like she’s upset and even bitter about it? I hope this isn’t exactly the case, but I won’t be surprised if it is or once was. If the answer is yes, it makes me think even less of her. She wasn’t a child. If she’s blaming her parents and thinks that her idea of perfect is ruined because of them, then she’s extremely selfish and immature. We should be able to recognize what’s real and what isn’t, and support everyone’s peace… Sometimes it looks like Zoe is competitive even with her own mother. I’m not aware of her traumas but you will never find healing if you keep passing the blame on someone else. Maybe her parents made mistakes but this should not be an excuse for not taking responsibility for yourself as you grow.

The way she acts I also thought she was a child when they got divorced until someone on here said she was an adult.

Also Zoe will never leave 'gorgeoussss' the only way they would separate is if he left her.