True I guess there is no complete right or wrong way to go about it, just a best way at the time and time will tell what happens
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Why couldn’t we have guaranteed that NATO wouldn’t extend further than Germany in the first place? That’s what Putin wanted. I don’t trust America at all.
I have a suspicion that what is being released in the media is strategic and only a fraction of help that is being provided. I think (well, at least I hope) there is a lot more going on behind the scenes.
There’s loads of info out there if you Google
“Surely we would be better remaining quiet” - in this case if we did that, it would just encourage Putin. You also have to remember that Ukraine literally borders the Schengen zone and multiple Nato countries. If you look on a map, it’s all smaller countries next to Ukraine. There were issues with smuggling goods etc from Ukraine into Hungary and Romania but Ukraine wants to join Nato and the EU so they tried to at least not overdo it. What do you think Putin would do if he was literally sitting on the border into the Schengen zone? Also Ukraine has a lot of resources Russia wants. We already depend on Russia way too much. So letting them control Ukraine would mean we need even more from them.
Because the whole point is to counter bigger countries. It extends to Germany then Russia comes and takes all the baltic/balkan countries and all of a sudden Nato is toast.
The UK Govt is accepting visa applications made by Ukranians.
I’m not here for an argument/discussion. I just voiced an opinion, and was looking for some feedback and I have received some feedback. I meant remaining quiet on how much help/ammunination we are giving, we are very vocal about it.. But like someone said we probably are hiding how much we are giving under wraps which makes sense.
Oh that’s nice of them, what good is a visa application right now? Visa’s can take ages and these people don’t have that time. They should be waiving them temporarily as the Irish government have done.
There’s is your right but I want to make sure it’s going somewhere that will have an impact
I’ve gone with choose love
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What happens if/when the Russians succeed in taking over the Ukrainian government, that would change things for the West, no? Do they just back off and let them get on with it?
I fear there is a lot of propaganda mainly about how well Ukraine are withstanding all this, no casualties reported after that missile strike, really?
I fear there is a lot of propaganda mainly about how well Ukraine are withstanding all this, no casualties reported after that missile strike, really?
They are reporting casualties. Their numbers are realistic given that there was no actual open war until they got to Kiev. After the first wave of attacks they reported casualties too.
The russian troops weren’t exactly having a good time even before they invaded Ukraine. There are reports with pictures of them being crammed into places like train stations and spending days in the cold, with no food etc. also locals were reporting that they drink a lot and they even trade their fuel for booze.
Russia military equipment is old, it malfunctions and Russians don’t want this war either. So it is totally possible that those who are fighting because they were sent there by Putin aren’t enthusiastic and those who are defending their country are doing serious damage.
Also Ukraine is armed by the UK, US and now France. So they might not have the numbers but they are not as unprepared as Russia expected.
BIB: Finland and Sweden are EU member states; that's why this is even more complicated.
Also worth noting that he didn’t threaten Finland and Sweden with warfare.
That's been the case in the past, but for this wouldn't they have been preparing for 10+ years and have new more reliable equipment that won't malfunction as much as it did during Afghanistan?
I wonder what % of Russians want this war? Lots must do and have swallowed up the propaganda.
To add to your last, also Estonia, Czech Republic, Turkey, Latvia, Lithuania, Australia....
Sweden, Finland and Russia have history dating back centuries. But also, in the last 24 hours Putin has warned Sweden and Finland against joining NATO - they'd face "military and political consequences" which, given he spoke of invading Ukraine as a "special military operation", doesn't sound much like a simple, gentle reminder.
Love how good Deborah Haines looks on sky news , she has reported none stop , she can’t be sleeping with all the noise , her dedication is admirable !
@smirkingrevenge ah I see, I've just seen some of the casualties may have been children 
I just don't understand why Putin would effectively starve his soldiers, I know he treats his people as worker bees but still.
I just don't understand why Putin would effectively starve his soldiers, I know he treats his people as worker bees but still.
Plenty of aid coming their way
She's been brilliant. Totally still on the ball and corrects Austin the moment he accidentally says something misleading / wrong
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