I am in the moderate risk category so if its recommended I get it (like it is with the flu and the pneumococcal vaccines) then I’ll probably take it. I trust the science. The coronavirus explained doc on Netflix is really interesting and explains how scientists have been able to adapt vaccines that were already in development for other coronaviruses and how all the red tape and funding issues that normally delay vaccine development have been removed and that’s why it’s been so quick. I don’t believe there is anything shady going on.
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Thank you for this, my husband is apprehensive about the vaccine so I think we will be watching this documentary!
I think the vaccine episode was episode 2? Also look up Mark Toshner on twitter. He has posted some good threads about vaccine development.
My point is, just because you question, and have scepticism, does not automatically render you a 'conspiracy theorist'.
In 1955, a faulty polio vaccine caused 40,000 cases of child polio and 10 deaths.
In the early 1960's, thousands of women gave birth to terribly deformed babies, due to Thalidomide.
We have no vaccine for the common cold, bird flu, swine flu etc. yet conveniently, within a few months, a vaccine for covid 19 is developed.
Trusting scientists is all very well, but the Barrington Declaration was signed by 8,000 scientists with opposing views.
The public has been subjected to months of relentless fear porn by a media that should have presented both sides, and bizarre government restrictions, with the result that a vast number of people will now sign up for anything that apparently restores their freedoms.
In 1955, a faulty polio vaccine caused 40,000 cases of child polio and 10 deaths.
In the early 1960's, thousands of women gave birth to terribly deformed babies, due to Thalidomide.
We have no vaccine for the common cold, bird flu, swine flu etc. yet conveniently, within a few months, a vaccine for covid 19 is developed.
Trusting scientists is all very well, but the Barrington Declaration was signed by 8,000 scientists with opposing views.
The public has been subjected to months of relentless fear porn by a media that should have presented both sides, and bizarre government restrictions, with the result that a vast number of people will now sign up for anything that apparently restores their freedoms.
Not everybody who is refusing the vaccine is a conspiracy theorist. That’s a cheap shot to be honest.
The reason this country has gone to tit is down to the governments handling of the outbreak.
They were late off the mark, they didn’t enforce any kind of lockdown rules, they haven’t utilised the nightingales and let’s not even divulge in the lies, U-turns and hypocrisy...
Who has said that taking the vaccine will make you 100% immune...? I’ve not not read or heard that at any stage.
And if that is the case then surely it makes perfect sense for high risk people to have the vaccine and be protected and low risk people don’t?
The flu vaccine is only offered to the elderly and vulnerable so makes sense why covid would be the same.
Why would you take a vaccine for a mild to moderate flu that’s less than 90% effective if you’re body is more than capable of fighting it?
Im actually all for people willing to take it ti go ahead...I’ll decide on my own time and not be terrified and scare mongered into having it.
Scientists have always said that a vaccine isn’t the be all end all. I think it’s naive to think you have a vaccine and it’s the equivalent of a golden ticket to normal life.
The people that say this about their data being tracked are usually the people that have an Alexa sitting in their lounge listening to everything they’re saying!
They're not sure about that yet. It might not be about herd immunity and instead like the flu vaccine to reduce an individual's risk.
Personally I wouldn’t have it. I am not at risk and have probably already been exposed to it plenty of times. However my work always lay on the guilt (as they do with the flu vaccine) that’s it’s not about us it’s about protecting the patients. I really don’t want it but might be difficult to avoid, especially if it meant I’d have to wear PPE forever 
I won't be taking the vaccine and the reason is because I have other health issues. I have Multiple Sclerosis & type 1 Diabetes (these actually put me in the very high risk category according to the HSE/NHS). Although I understand if I were to get Covid it would be very bad and cause a lot of problems, I feel taking the vaccine would be more of a chance of things going bad. I really hope I can explain this and make sense.
When I was younger (12yrs old) I got an illness called Guillain-Barré syndrome. This was tit because it made me super sick and I went paralyzed. Thankfully I recovered and mostly rebuilt my strength within a year. I was told by Doctor that I shouldn't get the Flu vaccine because it could cause the Guillain-Barre to happen again. Obviously I don't want that.
I know that Covid & the Flu are different but they are both viruses and viruses do react a certain way. So that's why I'm not going to take it, I feel it will do more harm to me then good.
Also with the MS treatment my immune system is super low & so I'm really not sure how vaccines work with that.
I worry that because I won't have it, that I'll be stopped from doing normal simple things. It is a very ignorant ablest world as is. It's not like I am even able to leave the house much (lockdown is just regular life) but what if I get invited to a wedding or something nice? I might really want to go
My head is spinning thinking about everything and I feel really paranoid!
When I was younger (12yrs old) I got an illness called Guillain-Barré syndrome. This was tit because it made me super sick and I went paralyzed. Thankfully I recovered and mostly rebuilt my strength within a year. I was told by Doctor that I shouldn't get the Flu vaccine because it could cause the Guillain-Barre to happen again. Obviously I don't want that.
I know that Covid & the Flu are different but they are both viruses and viruses do react a certain way. So that's why I'm not going to take it, I feel it will do more harm to me then good.
Also with the MS treatment my immune system is super low & so I'm really not sure how vaccines work with that.
I worry that because I won't have it, that I'll be stopped from doing normal simple things. It is a very ignorant ablest world as is. It's not like I am even able to leave the house much (lockdown is just regular life) but what if I get invited to a wedding or something nice? I might really want to go
My head is spinning thinking about everything and I feel really paranoid!
I voted no but I’m not totally against it; just happy to let those who want it to have it first and see how they get on.
Not jumping at the chance to have a brand new vaccine doesn’t make you a conspiracy nut. I don’t believe ‘they’ are microchipping us or what ever. We live in a country where vaccines aren’t mandatory and we can make a choice, although I’m generally pro vax that doesn’t mean I’m just gonna let myself or my kids (who are fully vaccinated btw) get injected with every vaccine going. It’s a slippery slope when people start saying you can’t have nhs treatment without a vaccine. Where does it stop? Fortunately I can’t see that happening as it goes against everything the nhs stands for.
Not jumping at the chance to have a brand new vaccine doesn’t make you a conspiracy nut. I don’t believe ‘they’ are microchipping us or what ever. We live in a country where vaccines aren’t mandatory and we can make a choice, although I’m generally pro vax that doesn’t mean I’m just gonna let myself or my kids (who are fully vaccinated btw) get injected with every vaccine going. It’s a slippery slope when people start saying you can’t have nhs treatment without a vaccine. Where does it stop? Fortunately I can’t see that happening as it goes against everything the nhs stands for.
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The whole world knows we can be tracked, thanks to the likes of Edward snowden and wikileaks etc. The conspiracy isn't that bill gates wants to track you as obvs that's already the case, it's no longer a conspiracy but is fact. The conspiracy this time is they want to depopulate the earth thanks to his comments on ted talks etc about reducing the earths population by 10-15% though his vaccination programs. I like to listen to things from both sides and it's amazing how many conspiracy theories are becoming fact 
but I remain hopeful that it's not the case.
but I remain hopeful that it's not the case.I don't get this whole thing about "big pharma" that seems to have come from the US, the vaccine here is being developed by scientists at Oxford Uni, unless I am mistaken? hardly "big pharma" is it?
The whole world knows we can be tracked, thanks to the likes of Edward snowden and wikileaks etc. The conspiracy isn't that bill gates wants to track you as obvs that's already the case, it's no longer a conspiracy but is fact. The conspiracy this time is they want to depopulate the earth thanks to his comments on ted talks etc about reducing the earths population by 10-15% though his vaccination programs. I like to listen to things from both sides and it's amazing how many conspiracy theories are becoming fact
I definitely will. I work in a hospital and feel it’s the responsible thing to do in order to protect my vulnerable patients.
I never get the whole Gates thing. He talks about slowing the population growth, not reducing the population. The two things are very different.The whole world knows we can be tracked, thanks to the likes of Edward snowden and wikileaks etc. The conspiracy isn't that bill gates wants to track you as obvs that's already the case, it's no longer a conspiracy but is fact. The conspiracy this time is they want to depopulate the earth thanks to his comments on ted talks etc about reducing the earths population by 10-15% though his vaccination programs. I like to listen to things from both sides and it's amazing how many conspiracy theories are becoming fact
It's not a chip to spy on you, further down the line the chip will be used to show you have had the vaccine... In will be used to open the shop door, so you can work. If you have benifits they will only give it you money if you have vaccine. Basically we will only go to work and home, no cash all payments through your chip.
Sounds crazy and I don't mean it will happen next year but little by little. I mean 10 years ago you would think its crazy you can pay by a watch... Just think people should think what's the bigger picture.
All this has been going on for thousands of years. Money controls everything,follow the money back and see what you find.
Sounds crazy and I don't mean it will happen next year but little by little. I mean 10 years ago you would think its crazy you can pay by a watch... Just think people should think what's the bigger picture.
All this has been going on for thousands of years. Money controls everything,follow the money back and see what you find.
People don't seem to understand that a two fold approach to slowing population growth by vaccination so children aren't at high risk of infant mortality, therefore meaning their parents have many children so there is a greater chance of some surviving and birth control so women in other parts of the world also have the privilege to not be trapped in a poverty cycle though having too many children is not eugenics.
But...the vaccine does not contain a chip?? So this is a moot point in relation to the vaccine
I sort of wish there was a third option in the poll "I will, but not immediately".
I definitely will get it, but not immediately. I am just worried about the long term side effects which we may not have had enough time to test/know about yet. I'd just rather be vaccinated and know that I've done my bit to potentially stop the spread than know that I could potentially be carrying the virus and passing it on to the more vulnerable without even knowing I've got it! I trust that we have some incredible scientists working on this, who have worked day and night for months on end to reach this point, but I would just like to know some long term effects first before I commit myself.
Anti-vaxxers really irritate me. I completely understand everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I don't begrudge them that - but what I do hate is when they say "do your own research" or "I've done my research" but won't actually share any evidence from genuine, trusted sources. Their information always seems to come from dodgey websites or weird instagram accounts full of propaganda. If an anti-vaxxer could show me a genuine, trustworthy source with real evidence from actual scientists indicating that their worries are true, then I'll hold my hands up, but I am yet to come across one who can do exactly that!
I definitely will get it, but not immediately. I am just worried about the long term side effects which we may not have had enough time to test/know about yet. I'd just rather be vaccinated and know that I've done my bit to potentially stop the spread than know that I could potentially be carrying the virus and passing it on to the more vulnerable without even knowing I've got it! I trust that we have some incredible scientists working on this, who have worked day and night for months on end to reach this point, but I would just like to know some long term effects first before I commit myself.
Anti-vaxxers really irritate me. I completely understand everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I don't begrudge them that - but what I do hate is when they say "do your own research" or "I've done my research" but won't actually share any evidence from genuine, trusted sources. Their information always seems to come from dodgey websites or weird instagram accounts full of propaganda. If an anti-vaxxer could show me a genuine, trustworthy source with real evidence from actual scientists indicating that their worries are true, then I'll hold my hands up, but I am yet to come across one who can do exactly that!
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