To COVID vaccine, or not to vaccine?

[Harpyharpyunder]

In my opinion there is much MUCH more going on with the vaccination agenda.

Not trying to start an argument, genuinely interested in what you mean here?

The vaccine will not change your DNA, this is false information that is dangerously being spread. See here https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN22U2BZ

I will be getting it because I trust actual doctors more than Facebook
One of the main purposes of producing the vaccine is so that normal life can resume without overwhelming hospitals, so it doesn’t make sense to me why people think that they wouldn’t thoroughly check the vaccine’s long term effects before rolling it out, as if it did cause complications that would overwhelm hospitals bringing us straight back to square one.
Your own lived experience of people you personally know isn’t the experience for everyone, nor is it a medical fact. I know people who have died, and I also know someone who was an otherwise healthy 25 year old male who’s sense of smell hasn’t returned and everything tastes like petrol to him. There’s much more to this than just mortality rates.
I will most definitely get it, and will be willing to be a ‘guinea pig’ (thousands of people have been involved in human trials, hence the ‘ ‘) for all you skeptics for my reasons outlined above.

 

[JLXRD]

Call me crazy but I don’t like the idea of putting something in my body that has had no long term studies. The idea of nanotechnology in my bloodstream altering my DNA is also kind of off putting. Plus Big Pharma won’t be held liable for any damages caused - why? And why the big push to vaccinate against something that has a approx survival rate of 99%.
In my opinion there is much MUCH more going on with the vaccination agenda.

Genuinely, please can you point me to a credible source which indicates the vaccine has such ‘nano technology’ and does such things?

Whenever I have asked anyone for this previously, they tell me to do my own research which seems a bit of a get out to avoid providing material that can be discredited easily.

Do you have any credible information to back up this claim?

Also to what end do you think this would be? What would altering our DNA achieve?

 

[It’s The Truman Show]

And......... what does anyone think the end result of NOT HAVING a vaccine would be ? Endless lockdowns .......inbetween times everyone will eventually get it and you just wanna hope and pray you and yours have got no underlying condition you didn’t know about.

 

[Rockin' Robin]

This is THE ONE vaccine the had ALL the resources thrown at it. Initially, I was reluctant to take it up but having read up on the science behind the production and being a frontline worker exposed to the virus daily I want to take it ASAP. Having seen first hand what this horrible virus does to people, I’d rather take my chances with a vaccine than the inevitable which is that I will get this. Anyone who won’t go for the vaccine is...... Well, Hopefully doing something so worthwhile for humanity that they feel they are above being a part of this.


IT HAS BEEN TRIED AND TESTED THOUGH !!

No need to shout.

 

[taperjeangirl42]

Also to the absolute conspiracy nutters on twitter, I don’t think Bill Gates would be interested in putting a chip into me to spy on me. He would be like “ooh er she’s in the pub again tut tut”

(I know no one on this thread has said that btw lol).

 

[JLXRD]

Also to the absolute conspiracy nutters on twitter, I don’t think Bill Gates would be interested in putting a chip into me to spy on me. He would be like “ooh er she’s in the pub again tut tut”

(I know no one on this thread has said that btw lol).

Haha I think this whenever I hear most things about companies having our data, being tracked etc.

A) if you have a phone sorry but you already have no privacy
B) doubt anyone is that interested in how you spend your time for anything other than marketing.

The whole micro chip thing is absurd. If the government really wants to control us it wouldn’t require a micro chip anyway.

 

[It’s The Truman Show]

No need to shout.

I don’t meant to shout but working in the NHS you realise how bad this is.... again . And the country doesn’t seem to really get it, but also at the same time, what can we as a country do ? Nothing..... cos we do need to bolster the economy. But I’m scared and tired right now and genuinely have realised a vaccine is our only hope as alternatively we all just stay apart for another 12 months cos it’s an awful thing this virus.

Haha I think this whenever I hear most things about companies having our data, being tracked etc.

A) if you have a phone sorry but you already have no privacy
B) doubt anyone is that interested in how you spend your time for anything other than marketing.

The whole micro chip thing is absurd. If the government really wants to control us it wouldn’t require a micro chip anyway.

Yes I always think same ... and I don’t actually care what data they have on me. Hell, it might even help them find me if I got kidnapped

 

[Harpyharpyunder]

Haha I think this whenever I hear most things about companies having our data, being tracked etc.

A) if you have a phone sorry but you already have no privacy
B) doubt anyone is that interested in how you spend your time for anything other than marketing.

The whole micro chip thing is absurd. If the government really wants to control us it wouldn’t require a micro chip anyway.

This idea gives me a giggle too. If you have a phone/have a Facebook account/use google then no more tracking needs to be done, they can track you enough from that, as shown by Cambridge Analytica reveals

 

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Also to the absolute conspiracy nutters on twitter, I don’t think Bill Gates would be interested in putting a chip into me to spy on me. He would be like “ooh er she’s in the pub again tut tut”

(I know no one on this thread has said that btw lol).

I'm surprised you are the first to mention that laughable claim.

 

[kev1974]

This is THE ONE vaccine the had ALL the resources thrown at it. Initially, I was reluctant to take it up but having read up on the science behind the production and being a frontline worker exposed to the virus daily I want to take it ASAP. Having seen first hand what this horrible virus does to people, I’d rather take my chances with a vaccine than the inevitable which is that I will get this. Anyone who won’t go for the vaccine is...... Well, Hopefully doing something so worthwhile for humanity that they feel they are above being a part of this.

Which one is "The One"? There are three in the running at the moment. Which all work differently as best I can tell?

Plus the Russian "Sputnik" one

Has anybody got any explanation for why China doesn't seem to be working on a vaccine, and seems to have virtually eradicated the covid without needing one? Or if they are working on a vaccine why we hear nothing about it. Or are they just totally lying about everything and in reality their population is being silently killed off by thousands every day? I'm puzzled as to why the West says it needs a vaccine, but China where it originated, doesn't.

 

[Georgethecat]

Yes I’d be fine to get the vaccine. They’ve had countless scientists working on this day and night with unlimited resources for months now and I trust them. I’m not protected from covid at work so I would rather know I’m not passing anything to my family. Life is too short to keep locking yourself away in fear of this virus. Bring on the vaccine!!

This is very noble and I totally understand where you're coming from. But it doesn't seem to be that simple , I have seen articles that suggest it's not known if these vaccines will stop transmission even if they can provide protection from symptoms and social distancing / masks will remain in place.

So it doesn't seem that a vaccine is the end of this nightmare but only time will tell.

 

[Azsxdcf]

I will definitely be taking it, unless I’m pregnant by the time it comes out. Then no, not until I’m postpartum.

 

[Clickbait]

Interested in understanding from people both for and against the vaccine how much they are observing the lockdown/tier rules and whether there is any correlation.

From reading posts on here there seem to be quite a few people not following lockdown rules - visiting family, having friends/partners staying over etc. which seems to show that either: they do not agree with the rules (for whatever reason) and think no one should be following them; they want to pick and choose the rules they follow and do not follow i.e. you should wear a mask in a shop but you can still socialise indoors with others because they agree with some and not others; they are happy for others to follow the rules but their reasons not to are valid/overwhelming.

So for example, do people not following the rules not want the vaccine because they don’t believe COVID exists or they don’t believe it has any serious health implications/side effects so are happy to catch it. And if that’s the case, why would being injected with something that mimics the virus be seen as dangerous?

For people wanting others to act as guinea pigs before they’ll be willing to take the vaccine - how long before you would take it? What is expected to happen to these people to show it’s not safe?

I’m perhaps not much of a skeptic, but if the NHS, social care and public services staff are the first in line to be given it, if it is really dangerous or life threatening would that not be a recipe for disaster? We infect and make ill/kill off the support infrastructure of our society. Doctors, nurses, care givers, social workers, police, teachers etc. all dropping like flies, or being off on long term sick at a cost to tax payers. I’m not sure what would be gained by this?

 

[Tublet83]

100% will be getting this.

I want this over and normal life to resume.

 

[Boredofthegram]

I’ll 100% get it, but ill be low down on the priority list for it. My mum works for the NHS and has various health conditions so will be one of the first in line and she’s said she’ll get it too.

I just want life back to how it was, all these lockdowns are not the answer socially or economically.

 

[Kim Mild]

I'm not anti vax but there's a few reasons why I ticked no . Not yet anyway.

Most of what the government has tried to organise in response to covid has been a shambles. I don't expect the roll out of the vaccine to be any different

I'm not in the priority group it, so it is likely to be a while before I would be entitled.

Supply /demand issues like happens with existing vaccines eg flu jabs are a likely scenario.

I don't tend to travel abroad.

And something that worries me is, people get the vaccine and stop taking precautions to limit the spread of respiratory viruses . ( my understanding is vaccines don't stop you catching viruses, they trigger your immune system to make antibodies should you catch with the same virus again).

I think preventing the spread in the first place is a preferable to it spreading to people who may be immune. Remember nobody wants to catch ' just a cold ' either.

 

[Peeky_Mink]

I will definitely be getting the vaccine. I really hope that they can started rolling it out soon and that in a few months we may be able to move towards some sort of "normality"

 

[Eyeofthetiger]

I’ll be having it. It’s been prepared and tested as much as any other vaccine just without them having to beg for money to research, the money has been thrown at them. COVID might have a high survival rate but someone has to get it seriously and I’d rather it was no one in my family.

I do shake my head at the people who are worried about the long term effects but happily vape or use products that also have no data available on long term effects

 

[Whaaaaat]

Ugh. The attitude in this thread is why this country has gone to tit with covid. “I’m low risk, so no.”

It’s not about individuals - it’s about herd immunity. And for that to work, the majority of people have to be immune. Exactly the same as the vaccinations you get as kids. If people don’t get the vaccine, the virus will continue to spread and possibly mutate and then we’re back to square one.

On top of that, you might be low risk but others aren’t.

I think everyone should have to show proof of vaccination or decent reason for refusal before getting any help off the NHS for covid related issues. If you refused because you’re a conspiracy theorist, you made your choice - off you pop.

 

[Jackfruit]

It’s interesting that pregnant ladies are saying they won’t take it because of the unknown affects on babies but are willing to take it afterwards?
Surely if you’re worried about the baby then you should be equally as worried about yourself as your baby depends on you for everything. The affects are just as unknown for adults as they are for babies!!
I’m also pregnant but won’t be taking the vaccine, period.