There were three adults in the room ... with I'm sure plenty of opportunities to ask questions of Dr. Wonderful and his nurse ... and all three of them are sitting in the car still as confused as ever.no but i am confused with these three amigos
She can, the question is how long?matt said the doctor said tiff can live her life without surgery because opertion is 12hrs
there may be a lot of confusion amongst the "three amigos" but one thing is clear the cancer is there...never left and is growing.Why is there any talk of 'no cancer' 'IF its cancer' still?! I'm SO confused. I keep watching the car chat back.
true if she is bleeding and under weight ..can get heart attackI'm sorry to say but it won't have a happy ending. Her family, Matt - they are all fools in a huge denial. Tiffany is no better, I follow Nat Woodward, she has saved stories on IG from her pelvic exenteration, it was hell. She was lucky because she didn't end up with a walking stick, it's sadly a possibility. Nat was in great physical shape as a former dancer, she had muscles on her and looked overall healthy. Tiffany is too frail, she doesn't have a clue what she's doing, she should go to the nutritionist, she won't get ant muscles by eating Mc Donalds and watching TV. I can't believe that they are so stupid, like how is it possible? Her life is at stake and they know less about cancer then me, a person without any cancer. Wtf.
thank you for your analysis of the new video. I might watch it later even though she annoys me.That is not what I heard. I heard that "wait and watch " failed and in retrospect surgery should have been done weeks ago. He seems willing to do surgery but her physical condition is so poor he would like her to gain some weight and get stronger first. They know the recovery from this massive life changing surgery is vicious and she will lose lots more weight during the one year recovery time. They will do a biopsy but probably at that time just continue with the surgery. I hear no team members saying "if" they find cancer. They probably want the biopsy to know a bit more about the tumor which will affect the surgery. Tiffany has just had her world turned upside down and seemed in shock. They went to eat (not to celebrate as some indicated) but because she was told to eat. I honestly don't think Matt will make it thru this entire journey. At some point during the recovery I think we will see less of him. He is not strong enough for this and is a really poor person to take to the meetings. I think the sister knows what is happening and now they are going to keep Amma in the dark. Probably not the smartest thing. Without the chemo etc. this tumor is on the move and things could change in terms of surgeon undertaking this complex surgery. It was hard watching that lead up to the news in the video with the doorstop (that does not work) etc. This surgery, if it happens, will be before the holidays. Tough news and no matter what my heart goes out to her. No one could be making all of this up as some indicate . Her life as she knows it is gone at the age of 30...that is tough.
they analyze it and use the information for the surgery.
she is too weak for chemo and there is no mention of it. I think the surgery will be sooner than 8 weeks if they agree to still do it and things don't change again.I didnt watch it all, but did she indicate she'd be on chemo during the next 8 weeks? If not, the tumor will continue to grow. The outlook is grim, I think. And, of course, the Dolt Cult is crowing We got this!
@Sheba @AlwaysScience
if the average time of survival is 14 months, when do we start mesuring this period. Starting with the first diagnosis or with the pelvic excenteration (surgery)
TT was "officially" diagnosed in September 2021
I refer to the link @Sheba posted in thread #6...
Hate to sound dire but in my view as a layman, the biopsy is now to determine whether surgery can be done or not, and not to determine if the growing t4b tumor is cancer or not.
I think they’ll do the new biopsy to determine where the tumor margins are. Then they can plan the surgery in detail.Hate to sound dire but in my view as a layman, the biopsy is now to determine whether surgery can be done or not, and not to determine if the growing t4b tumor is cancer or not.
i am so confused myself got 2 advils ..There were three adults in the room ... with I'm sure plenty of opportunities to ask questions of Dr. Wonderful and his nurse ... and all three of them are sitting in the car still as confused as ever.
exactlyShe can, the question is how long?
Where was the bullet journal ?? Or ANY KIND OF NOTEBOOK in which a life-or-death discussion was documented? Good grief.Two hour meeting with top cancer minds and you’d expect one of them could clearly explain the situation.
What a collection of college-educated dimwits. This is tragic on so many levels.
It starts all over again. She has said in the car part that she don’t want to talk about it. Well, nasty surprise Tiff. You have to talk and think about it in all your waking hours until the operation. To build a stronger shape, eat healthy nutritious food and put on some weight to stand a chance to this beast of a surgery. Sometimes I think she is a bit challenged mentally.I don't think she's being manipulative either, I think she's just incredibly naive. I think with her being religious she really has put this in God's hands and doesn't seem to think much past that. I don't even know what to make of the whole thing honestly. The lack of details and how little they seem to understand is maddening. My heart goes out to Tiffany, she's so young, it's very sad, but she needs to get the details straight so she can understand exactly what she's dealing with. Unfortunately, her family and Matt never help at meetings either. I'm sad the tumor has grown, but it was honestly expected with no treatment at all.
we don’t know exactly how Tiffany behaved in the august meet with her surgeon..plus it was not long after the c -diff which wasted her weight overnight practically...and you have to want this surgery..I’m guessing her mind will be more focused now..she doesn’t have the option now..and she’s not the only one in her family who’s not listening to anyone or they’d of educated themselves on what is The reality with her illness..they live in a bubble..I told before that the thing about the surgeon is strange. He gave her false hope and let her wait for nothing. Clearly she wasn't candidat for WW because she has T4 and lymph node involment. Now insists again for endoscopy despite the narrowing, for what. During surgery and after surgery all materials are send to pathology anyway. In my opinion she should have surgery as soon possible before it metastases. Last time I wrote her comment to find another surgeon. Of course she doesn't listen to people.
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