TheNurseMum #8

[Squiggle]

I'm not assuming I'm taking what she said on her stories and posts. She did slate them that's the problem...she slated them in some of her stories...she pushed for discharge from his last hospital visit as it was her birthday, it was all on her insta .....page 15 on this thread discussed more on that page

No sorry its come across wrong I completely agree with you. I meant for the people arguing about the hospital stays and Kathleen making him worse

Eta SHE was the one who wanted him out to suit her birthday needs. I think her not speaking about what happened is guilt on her part.
Sorry again it all came across wrong

 

[Binks87]

No sorry its come across wrong I completely agree with you. I meant for the people arguing about the hospital stays and Kathleen making him worse

Eta SHE was the one who wanted him out to suit her birthday needs. I think her not speaking about what happened is guilt on her part.
Sorry again it all came across wrong

Ahh I see! No need to apologise at all things can sometimes come across wrong on these pages but totally agree her not speaking about it shows guilt when she knows so many of us saw what happened on her posts/stories leading up to it

 

[Fifah1907]

For the review after poor wee J, can they use insta posts etc against her? Since we know they’ve seen them. I’m clueless about this sort of thing. I didn’t even know there was a law about reviews

 

[Sendparent]

100% this and she didn’t even skirt round and make it look better she literally said didn’t share it because she wanted the go fund me money.
And the fact is she 100% knew before the first go fund me for his “chair for nursery” that he was getting that chair funded this I can promise you!

Funded by his EHC plan that she never talked about. Unlike kathleen, the rest of us have to really fight for things. Spend thousands just to get an EHC plan because of refusal to assess, then spend thousands more when they dont name the right school or the draft hasn't been quantified and specified. She has never experienced having to go to court, the mountain of paperwork and researching that goes alongside that. But to the public she has given the impression she has had to fight for everything, they're were the most in need. His EHC plan was awarded ready for nursery, but some children are in year 11 still waiting for the assessment. His EHC plan was perfect from the start, she had no issues with it or had not bothered to check it correctly because it's to do with school and not her problem.

The chair was funded through his EHC plan, she knew it would be and admitted afterwards that the chair had been funded and provided a few weeks back but she hadn't told anyone yet. She had finally got that GoFundMe she had wanted, she had the chair sorted but had made the decision to let people carry on donating for a few more weeks before admitting it.

Similar scenario with the carers. She makes out continuing healthcare is for children like J, a single parent keira should have them to be able to work and for a social life, she sat on This Morning moaning she cant work as a nurse but that is not what they are for, it's not childcare or babysitting. She has never spoken at length about the other options she has, like paying for his care herself out of the money raised, having social care assess or applying for a personal budget or direct payments. Why did she not go for a social care assessment? Because they do an in depth financial assessment and she cant be having that when it's based on the money she has in her bank, they would assess what care he needed and she would be billed for it because she has too much money. She didn't try for a personal budget because he would not have got one at his age with his level of needs, they would have assessed him to have roughly the same amount of needs a baby would require. That left her with using the money in the bank to pay for carers, she had already blown most of it but even if she had alot left there was no way she would spend it on J or she would have done it. She chose to spend £7k to get a solicitor though.

 

[xxexposethemallxx]

I really hope she comes to her senses & gets that site down

 

[GobShyte64]

I had no idea that she had reduced/stopped J's heart meds... I mean, for someone who keeps badgering on about how she's a nurse and how she knows more than everyone else... What was her thought processing doing that?! He wouldn't be on them if he didn't need them ffs!

 

[mrslh]

If you look back on threads lots of evidence of things she has said . She stopped many medications when advised not to .

bizzarly she would constantly push for medications even doctors at GOSH didnt think would work for j or be necessary but for some reason she spent ages fighting against them for the medication he didn’t need

 

[HoGi]

She final got the referal for the call with GOSH gastro team and then was disappointed as the letter they sent back to the specialists at Nottingham didn't say exactly what she wanted and didn't recommend additional treatments that the specialists had already deemed unnesscary

She always thought she knew better than the people with years of training and experience

 

[Romeo1]

God this thread gives me anxiety. Was she really doing all this while her child was alive. Makes me feel ill. Alot of ppl have alot to say about Ashley Cain and the loss of his baby. But my god this is another level. Nobody could say they mistreated there daughter or ever put her at risk. It's scary

 

[Sendparent]

I had no idea that she had reduced/stopped J's heart meds... I mean, for someone who keeps badgering on about how she's a nurse and how she knows more than everyone else... What was her thought processing doing that?! He wouldn't be on them if he didn't need them ffs!

After she had the first 3 fundraisers done, J went downhill as he was put on the feeding school programme against advice from GOSH. After that he was progressing, he was doing really well, in many areas. During that time it was normal life stories, designer clothes, ad work, hotels and holidays. Then they were deemed ineligible for carers. During this period She cut his Omeprazole and Ondansetron (was that the name?) which helped his reflux. Followed by stories about his vomiting, pushing for surgery and arguing he should be scored high/severe for it. At the same time as doing that to his medication plan, she decided to reduce what she called his 'life saving' heart medications by half because she said she needed to make his care plan more manageable for a single parent keira if she was losing carers. Shortly after that she said he was being weaned off them completely. Her thought process could be a couple of things but His meds dont take long to administer so was this more about making a point to continuing healthcare that J would suffer if they took his hours away and also to the public to make out he really needed carers? It could have been a genuine trial, where she was trying to see if certain meds wasn't making a difference but she did make a point of saying she had to make his care plan more manageable if she was losing carers as she was a single carer and that was why she had to cut his heart meds.

 

[HoGi]

God this thread gives me anxiety. Was she really doing all this while her child was alive. Makes me feel ill. Alot of ppl have alot to say about Ashley Cain and the loss of his baby. But my god this is another level. Nobody could say they mistreated there daughter or ever put her at risk. It's scary

Honestly read the previous threads if you get a chance.

A few standout issues for me:
The feeding school where she literally starved him
Changing his meds
Declining treatments suggested by specialists as she thought further exploratory tests were needed first
Demanding he be released from hospital prior to the hospital suggesting it
His PEG site
The hot tub
Stopping the blended feeds as it was too much effort
Filming him choking on vomits
Claiming he was vomit free until CHC reviews came up

It is endless

 

[YouAreHiding]

Can’t believe what I am reading here she reduced/stopped meds? Making out she had it so hard tho maybe she did not in comparison to others. Why was she not a hospital consultant with all her so called knowledge. The birthday farce was clearly centred around her own needs too. Took the money and is still spending what she has left on herself. It’s fraud!

 

[mrslh]

It’s worrying because so many signs are in these threads that j in my eyes should have been safeguarded and I’m trained in safeguarding , so many things didn’t sit right with me and I feel should have been looked into you only have to go back in previous threads to see how bad things got . she always seemed to want to make things seem worst than they was trying to get different medications that many doctors didn’t want him to have then she took it upon herself to change top some medications . this all went on till the very end when she discharged him a week before he passed away he very c,early shouldn’t have been discharged . But even worst was the reasons for discharge to celebrate her birthday as a mother you just wouldn’t . not long before he passed she shown a lot of shocking things like pushing him on a swing whilst attached to his leg feed . Taking him a park with his tube in show dangling onto the dirty slide . It should have been dressed and cleaned at all times to stop infections

 

[HoGi]

The other thing is it was obvious to people willing to see it.

And it's a bit different to calling other influencers grabby/beggy or calling Stacey Solomon dirty/smelly and Hinch...the less said the better.

She was exploiting her ill child, she was using him to make money, she exaggerated his conditions when it suited her and other times said how well he was progressing.

It wasn't just duping her followers it was exploiting the system for her benefit and at the expense of her gorgeous little boy.

 

[YouAreHiding]

A single carer? You would spend every minute and hour doing what was needed for your child whether that be feed/medication administration or anything else he needed. That’s neglect on her part or even worse I would say.

 

[Sendparent]

The other thing is it was obvious to people willing to see it.

And it's a bit different to calling other influencers grabby/beggy or calling Stacey Solomon dirty/smelly and Hinch...the less said the better.

She was exploiting her ill child, she was using him to make money, she exaggerated his conditions when it suited her and other times said how well he was progressing.

It wasn't just duping her followers it was exploiting the system for her benefit and at the expense of her gorgeous little boy.

And now she has launched a souvenir shop.

 

[mrstakeaway]

And once again for the people arguing at the beginning
munchausen by proxy syndrome
Google it

 

[AreYouJoking?]

In his final days she shared how she had printed off images of J and stuck them around his bed on the walls so the team caring for him could see how he used to be.
The photographs were 90% from the days between his discharge and re admission. Him sat in the hotel bed (which we all previously believed he hadn’t slept in but was there before being shipped off to his dads. Something she often did while in London). What I believe she was doing was showing them he was fine. He went home and was ‘ok’ he wasn’t ill. Look at him. See how well he was yesterday and the day before that. It reeked of guilt. The same as the huge wall canvas she printed off of him in the bath. The day he came home with his bruised body. But she was saying I knew he was ok if he wasn’t he wouldn’t of been at home. I have never known anyone plaster walls with images of the actual patient. Yes his family and friends if he was in a condition where he was able to see those things but to be photographs of the person who’s lay in the bed. Grim. She posted this also which was again just wrong, distasteful, and another example of his private life being just for likes and donations.
Don’t get me started on the staged photo of her holding a heart. And the use of black and white filters when she wanted her feed to be sad and pitiful.

 

[Giftinghell]

And once again for the people arguing at the beginning
munchausen by proxy syndrome
Google it

Yeah I see what you mean now, I’ve no idea how a peg site or feeding tubes should be cared for, and I didn’t know about the hot tub being bad for him. Honestly just took what she said about hydrotherapy as gospel she did always seem to know best, a bit worrying when it’s read all together I started following her after the This Morning slot I think and I just thought oh how unfair she isn’t getting the help she needed but it seems more now that she didn’t get the help she needed to be able to live the life she wanted

 

[Roxytoxin]

Does anybody know what happened to the kittens? She didn’t seem to care too much about them, especially with how rough J was with them (not that he knew any better, it’s her responsibility to teach him to be gentle)

Always thought it was a crazy idea when she got them. Two as well, she clearly didn’t know how messy they can be when they are kittens and using a litter tray. I think that was awful of her and I bet they have been rehomed now