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I think for a long time they both wanted to avenge their mothers death etc but somewhere along the way, William learnt that the best thing he could do to honour her was to move on and live his life, likely something Kate helped him with, as opposed to Harry who didn’t find his “soulmate” until much later, giving him longer to resent and stew in the anger, and then of course when he did meet his wife rather than being someone to help him move on and live, he found someone who enabled him even further
 
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I think for a long time they both wanted to avenge their mothers death etc but somewhere along the way, William learnt that the best thing he could do to honour her was to move on and live his life, likely something Kate helped him with, as opposed to Harry who didn’t find his “soulmate” until much later, giving him longer to resent and stew in the anger, and then of course when he did meet his wife rather than being someone to help him move on and live, he found someone who enabled him even further
I think William just grew up, Harry didn’t.
 
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I think William just grew up, Harry didn’t.
Nah, he’s another man child that has people running round after him just it’s kept quieter and he doesn’t have public tantrums. Still has a childlike sense of entitlement that comes with his birth.
 
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Where have you seen photos of Archie riding in a car anywhere?
If you google it, you will see a pic from Reddit of Meghan in a car with Archie on her lap with no seatbelt but I don't know how genuine it is or if it has been doctored!
 
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These articles by Omid are actually a godsend for the Royals. It stops the little people reading and talking about the bona vacantia from the Duchy of L.
 
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These articles by Omid are actually a godsend for the Royals. It stops the little people reading and talking about the bona vacantia from the Duchy of L.
Or the Councillors working from home that are getting their heating paid for and probably their internet and goodness knows what else.
 
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This is so stupid it’s infuriating. Even if she stretched the seat belt over them it’s still wrong, he should be in a car seat.
You think they'd be even more safety conscious after their, ahem...car chase ordeal through the streets of NYC. 🥴
 
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Will Omid Scobie be writing any books about Meghan’s relationship with her family? Don’t think so….
 
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It'll probably be in her book though



Why? It will get plenty of hits and that's all newspapers are after these days
My understanding but I could be wrong is everyone knows Scobie speaks nonsense, but yes it will get hits from the fans
 
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Does this family have no shame? They are so greedy.
the greed extends so much more beyond this though. The tricky thing is, it’s hard to know where the stinginess starts with them, as a traditional family and where it begins with the royal family as an institution.

the queen and her father before her were famously frugal. Eating cornflakes out of Tupperware and all that. But that’s true of many rich people. The reality is that rich people often become and stay wealthy because they are very stingy. Harry himself had a weird relationship with money in Spare. On one hand he’s buying clothes once a year from TK Maxx, but on the other hand he’s aghast that a 30-something year old living for free in KP is expected to buy a sofa on their own credit card. They don’t want to spend their own money - on anything - but are happy to have the costs covered from somewhere else.

As an institution though, it’s hard to know how much the royal family are involved in business decisions. I expect they are, to some extent.

For example, the pay of a lot of staff for the royal family’s households is awful. At best, it’s uncompetitive. Sure, employees get accommodation (and some meals) in central London but it’s very basic for lower staff (like maids and footmen). Think more basic room with a single bed rather than an entire flat to yourself. They are often expected to work long and unsociable hours. I think the start salary for footmen is £15k. Housekeeping get paid below the London living wage per hour. How do the royal family get away with it? They rely on the goodwill of the people serving them combined with the prestige attached.

business decisions taken by institutions of the royal family have been criticised for a long time. For example, Buckingham Palace tried to apply for heating grants aimed at lower income households - and were gently informed this rather heartless cash grab might not be well received by the public;

Members of the royal family are also pretty astute at building up their personal wealth via the duchies of Lancaster, Cornwall etc. the queen’s main investment portfolio was the duchy of Lancaster. It invests in a broad range of things, from property through to offshore accounts. Yep that’s right, the queen was actively “managing” paying tax through offshore investments. Some of them being very dodgy, with accusations of exploitation against them;


Prince Charles’ duchy has done similar;

a friend of mine works in the sustainable energy sector. They have told me how the Crown Estate owns the vast majority of U.K. coastline. They charge so much in rent and attach so much bureaucracy, that it makes it unviable for sustainable energy companies to try and establish themselves in the U.K. - as a consequence, the U.K. has poor sustainable energy infrastructure, which in turn makes us more dependent on fossil fuel imports and makes our energy market more volatile compared to other advanced economies;


the list goes on and on and on. It could be easy to dismiss the late Queen, of Charles and the rest - it’s not their decisions, right? They appoint advisors to manage all this.

ultimately though, that argument doesn’t fly with me. These are funds that are essentially a source of personal wealth, and they have responsibility for the business decisions made on their behalf.

it doesn’t help that as a family, they surround themselves with senior courtiers who are just as privileged, greedy and out of touch. Tommy Lascelles (private sec to the queen and her father before her), was a member of the aristocracy (the earls of harewood). His successor, Michael Adeane was descended from captains and admirals. Martin Chatteris’ father was Lord Elcho. Another private sec was a brother in law of Princess Diana. In short… all white men, all from a similar background with a similar education and undoubtedly, largely very similar world views.

The current private sec to Charles doesn’t have much information on his background online, but he’s gone to a prestigious boarding school in his youth and enjoyed a prestigious careers as an ambassador - so I think it’s fair to assume he’s not your run of the mill, average middle class guy. In short, nothing much has changed among the top circles close to the royal family - so there’s an argument to be made there that they are wilfully burying their head in the sand and surrounding themselves with likeminded individuals. They might not sign off every single business decision, but they sign off the people that *do* make those business decisions for them. And that is very much an active choice they’ve made.

the reality is, the royal family rely on public goodwill for their existence. But equally, they love money and believe in their own hype. So they obfuscate and complicate their financials to make sure the general public don’t fully understand it, and to perpetuate the myth that they are “value for money”.
 
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The problem is they all spend their whole lives being "advised". Perhaps it would be better if rather than going and studying random courses at Uni, they all embarked on a course of study to understand their assets, their Duchy's etc and could make their own decisions.

Take William and the Duchy of Cornwall, do we really believe that by "joining a few meetings a year with Charles" and then a couple of meetings a month at a push now, he is able to be in charge and make decisions on this vast property and investment portfolio, the tenants and everything else it entails? Of course not. He might have an opinion on one or two things but everything is done for him by the famous men in grey suits. But he's a 41 year old man who had around 20 years to prepare and learn.
 
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The problem is they all spend their whole lives being "advised". Perhaps it would be better if rather than going and studying random courses at Uni, they all embarked on a course of study to understand their assets, their Duchy's etc and could make their own decisions.

Take William and the Duchy of Cornwall, do we really believe that by "joining a few meetings a year with Charles" and then a couple of meetings a month at a push now, he is able to be in charge and make decisions on this vast property and investment portfolio, the tenants and everything else it entails? Of course not. He might have an opinion on one or two things but everything is done for him by the famous men in grey suits. But he's a 41 year old man who had around 20 years to prepare and learn.
the thing is.. William could learn as little or as much as he wants and it largely wouldn’t matter. The real question is… does he really care? Does he care about being fair? Ethical?

there are many people with vested interests in protecting him - and the crown as an institution and symbol - he doesn’t have to worry about it too much. All William has to do is keep his head down, make a few speeches (written for him of course) and generally float along while playing the PR game.

the real question is.. do William and Charles et al. care about serving the general public? Do they care about the every day man and woman?

the evidence thus far is pretty loud and clear. The resentment from them as a family is obvious. Harry’s especially. They loathe the media. They are outspoken about it. But the media is a vehicle of the general public. It’s the voice of the public. What drives interest in the media to make them pap William and Harry? The general public. You can’t say you hate one, without realistically implying the other in this context.

has William or anyone else in the family - realistically, ever done anything that benefitted others and couldn’t be attributed as an act of self promotion? Anne, arguably. Maybe.

for those who say “they don’t really believe they are special”. They’ve shown time and time again that they believe exactly that. The entitlement of Charles trying to launch a PR campaign to manipulate the public into accepting Camilla. The entitlement of Andrew denying outright - lying to everyone - about his involvement with Virginia Guiffres (despite photographic evidence!!!). The fact the multi million dollar settlement ever happened in the first place. The abuse of his position in Trade. Sophie and Fergie selling “access” to the family. Harry writing tell-alls to dish the dirt for cash and support. They all, at their core, believe they are better than the rest of us.

they surround themselves with courtiers who buy into the myth, they celebrate tradition and pageantry which reinforces that same myth. They resent the public, think they are above the public and the evidence is pretty clear on that if you ask me.
 
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the thing is.. William could learn as little or as much as he wants and it largely wouldn’t matter. The real question is… does he really care? Does he care about being fair? Ethical?

there are many people with vested interests in protecting him - and the crown as an institution and symbol - he doesn’t have to worry about it too much. All William has to do is keep his head down, make a few speeches (written for him of course) and generally float along while playing the PR game.

the real question is.. do William and Charles et al. care about serving the general public? Do they care about the every day man and woman?

the evidence thus far is pretty loud and clear. The resentment from them as a family is obvious. Harry’s especially. They loathe the media. They are outspoken about it. But the media is a vehicle of the general public. It’s the voice of the public. What drives interest in the media to make them pap William and Harry? The general public. You can’t say you hate one, without realistically implying the other in this context.

has William or anyone else in the family - realistically, ever done anything that benefitted others and couldn’t be attributed as an act of self promotion? Anne, arguably. Maybe.

for those who say “they don’t really believe they are special”. They’ve shown time and time again that they believe exactly that. The entitlement of Charles trying to launch a PR campaign to manipulate the public into accepting Camilla. The entitlement of Andrew denying outright - lying to everyone - about his involvement with Virginia Guiffres (despite photographic evidence!!!). The fact the multi million dollar settlement ever happened in the first place. The abuse of his position in Trade. Sophie and Fergie selling “access” to the family. Harry writing tell-alls to dish the dirt for cash and support. They all, at their core, believe they are better than the rest of us.

they surround themselves with courtiers who buy into the myth, they celebrate tradition and pageantry which reinforces that same myth. They resent the public, think they are above the public and the evidence is pretty clear on that if you ask me.
I used to think that surely in this day and they can’t believe they are born special but the tv interviews from Andrew and Harry blew that right out the water. They actually do believe they are and if that pair do, you can guarantee the rest do too.
 
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