That did seem odd.I know those threads can be toxic but I think there is a wider point to be made about how she wanted her pregnancy kept very quiet (totally understandable imo) but then goes on Oprah revealing the gender of her unborn baby. It seems odd.
The only person that doesn't need a passport when traveling to foreign countries is the Queen. Everybody else does.They can give her those back you know? Also, if she was travelling as part of the Royal Family for tours etc. or if she hired a jet you don't need a passport. And of course, she needs her licence - what if she was stopped at any point whilst driving? The first thing you do is hand over your licence, and her US licence would be invalid over here! - Maybe ask yourself why the palace wanted those things from her instead of trying to find stories people can disprove.
I've had the same conversations as I have different race parents and my kid also is mixed race. For me, it was more just wondering their skin tone rather than having a preference which I think is the issue in this case. Was said person hoping for a light skinned baby or just wondering? Even if it was innocent, it should've been kept quiet unless the parents of the baby brought it up.I know all families are different but I'd like to say that I am mixed race and it was up for debate between my parents and family members what colour I would be (I was the first child). My dad told my mum he wanted a brown girl and a white boy but they ended up getting the opposite. And there was much discussion about it in the delivery room as well. None of it was racist - it was my parents! Of course they were curious. It's just natural isn't it?
Dammit, I guess that means The Bidding Room is off again
That’s reassuring to hear you say that. If one of my mixed race friends has babies in the future I know for sure that it’s a topic we would discuss and there would be categorically no racist element from myI know all families are different but I'd like to say that I am mixed race and it was up for debate between my parents and family members what colour I would be (I was the first child). My dad told my mum he wanted a brown girl and a white boy but they ended up getting the opposite. And there was much discussion about it in the delivery room as well. None of it was racist - it was my parents! Of course they were curious. It's just natural isn't it?
That's how I read it in the media but when I saw the clip at lunchtime it actually sounded like two seperate things.I think its the context in which skin colour was discussed that is the issue. From what I gather the sussexes have alleged it was discussed around titles and security but I may have picked it up wrong.
I would have said so, in the same way I wondered whether my baby would be ginger. (For the record, nothing against people with ginger hair....)I know all families are different but I'd like to say that I am mixed race and it was up for debate between my parents and family members what colour I would be (I was the first child). My dad told my mum he wanted a brown girl and a white boy but they ended up getting the opposite. And there was much discussion about it in the delivery room as well. None of it was racist - it was my parents! Of course they were curious. It's just natural isn't it?
I think the fact in that discussion between Harry and whoever, the alluding that there may be negative consequences if Archie was darker. Obviously, an open discussion of what a baby would look like isn’t necessarily negative on its own. For me, it’s context like you say- why it matters and why this person viewed it as a bad thing if Archie was dark.I would have said so, in the same way I wondered whether my baby would be ginger. (For the record, nothing against people with ginger hair....)
My BIL is from India, I know we all discussed (with them) whether her baby would be lighter-skinned or dark-skinned. It wasn't a negative thing at all, just curiosity in the same way we wonder about blue eyes or brown eyes. But I can see it really depends on the context.
But that word 'concern' could very well be a carefully chosen term by Meghan. I doubt very much ANY of the RF said they were 'concerned'. I mean, they weren't blind, they know Meghan is mixed race so why the concern.I think the issue is, key word, ‘concern’. If there was going to be an issue if Archie was darker. What that might mean. A open conversation started by H&M in a lighthearted nature of what their baby might look like is different.
Playing devil's advocate - they may NOT have viewed it as a bad thing, that might be how Meghan and Harry interpreted the situation. Who knows. Only the people that were involved will ever know the truth.I think the fact in that discussion between Harry and whoever, the alluding that there may be negative consequences if Archie was darker. Obviously, an open discussion of what a baby would look like isn’t necessarily negative on its own. For me, it’s context like you say- why it matters and why this person viewed it as a bad thing if Archie was dark.
It’s a big claim to make if no truthfulness behind it, or it wasn’t perceived by them to come across as racist. I imagine the other party was not aware of how it may have sounded or perceived.But that word 'concern' could very well be a carefully chosen term by Meghan. I doubt very much ANY of the RF said they were 'concerned'. I mean, they weren't blind, they know Meghan is mixed race so why the concern.
I find it impossible to believe they wouldn't have discussed whether the baby would be a red head either.I would have said so, in the same way I wondered whether my baby would be ginger. (For the record, nothing against people with ginger hair....)
My BIL is from India, I know we all discussed (with them) whether her baby would be lighter-skinned or dark-skinned. It wasn't a negative thing at all, just curiosity in the same way we wonder about blue eyes or brown eyes. But I can see it really depends on the context.
It is a very big claim to make, which is why they should have dealt with it differently, rather than alluding to something and someone. I'm not saying that isn't what they felt, just that the word 'concern' is more than likely one they have chosen to use and maybe not reflective of what was actually said.It’s a big claim to make if no truthfulness behind it, or it wasn’t perceived by them to come across as racist. I imagine the other party was not aware of how it may have sounded or perceived.
I get your point. It’s caused more of a media storm than they probably originally imagined. Because without context, or even knowing who, it’s just a guessing game. I would like to think it was meant harmlessly and was just how H&M interpreted. But until we have further elaboration we will never know.It is a very big claim to make, which is why they should have dealt with it differently, rather than alluding to something and someone. I'm not saying that isn't what they felt, just that the word 'concern' is more than likely one they have chosen to use and maybe not reflective of what was actually said.
For some reason I suspect Camilla.I think I’m assuming it’s a senior male, but you are right , could be one of the wives.
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