I don't think anyone will see her as a weak monarch. In her final years she effectively handed reins to Charles. I also don't think the crown is in a terrible state. H&M are annoying but largely irrelevant now. It will blow over as these things always do.
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The highlands are beautiful and have done nothing to warrant being used as an exile location for royal sex offenders.
I think the Andrew problem is harder to deal with than the Harry and Meghan issue.
Andrew obviously doesn't have large amounts of cash or assets. He seems to live courtesy of his mother and brothers coat tails and has done for years.
If Charles cut Andrew off completely he would have to go and find some work which would inevitably put him back to to the forefront and a public presence. In order to keep Andrew away from all things public and Royal they have to pay for it. He's essentially on house arrest on the Windsor estate and that's the way Charles and William want it.
Harry and Meghan, whilst problematic from a publicity point of view aren't in the same league and once they've told their story a hundred times the public will eventually tire and move on.
Andrew obviously doesn't have large amounts of cash or assets. He seems to live courtesy of his mother and brothers coat tails and has done for years.
If Charles cut Andrew off completely he would have to go and find some work which would inevitably put him back to to the forefront and a public presence. In order to keep Andrew away from all things public and Royal they have to pay for it. He's essentially on house arrest on the Windsor estate and that's the way Charles and William want it.
Harry and Meghan, whilst problematic from a publicity point of view aren't in the same league and once they've told their story a hundred times the public will eventually tire and move on.
The optics of this are bad. Do the taxpayers even have money for this?! Full article as it’s from behind a paywall:
Only elements deemed to be "outdated and cumbersome" will be removed from the ceremony. So all of it then?
'The government has taken this opportunity to cover up their shocking mismanagement of the country and for spending half of 2022 making us into a global laughing stock by saying "Look over there at that big shiny carriage and jewels!" for 2 days'
I agree with ths. They are keeping him ( and Fergie) onside. They have extremely expensive tastes for two such talentless people. I suspect the things they would do to sell out the family would make Meghan and Harry think they'd gone too far!
‘Showing off her sartorial prowess, the mother-of-one wrapped up in a trendy coat…’ eh?Do we think Eugenie is pregnant? My guess is she is.
Princess Eugenie enjoys night out at Mayfair members club
The Duke of York's daughter, 32, went makeup free and tied her hair up into a smart ponytail as she and her husband Jack Brooksbank left Maison Estelle in Mayfair yesterday.www.dailymail.co.uk
Whatever it takes to print a photo of her with imminent bump…& pressure to make a public announcement.
If Euge is expecting, she’ll mention the matter when she is ready.
I agree. Surprisingly, I’m not a royalist, but I think this kind of snidey story is awful. I realise she is in some sense a public person, but she still has the right to a level of privacy about her own body. It’s absolutely none of my business.
As someone living outside the UK, it has gotten a lot of bad press over the past few years. I know not everyone in the UK will agree with my perspective but I think a lot of Europeans would look at the last few years and think Brexit was a disaster, your economy is not going well to put it mildly, Johnson and Truss were embarrassingly bad - Johnson was almost on a par with Trump towards the end and there has been a lot of upheaval and instability in government. The queen's funeral did show the UK in a very favourable light. Driving her around Scotland showed how beautiful it was and the funeral with leaders from all over the world were a reminder of the UK's standing in the world. I don't think they should go crazy with the coronation but I don't think they should cut it back to bare bones either.
I hope I'm not offending anyone with my views and I don't want to turn this thread into a Brexit or political debate but even if you don't agree with what I've said, that's how a lot of the world have seen the UK in recent years.
Bread and circuses
You’ve summed up how I feel and I live in England!
I’m torn about the coronation. I love a big royal spectacle so I hope they go for it in that sense, but with people struggling to eat and heat their homes it does seem off to use public money to fund it. Having said that, it’s not like there’s a pot of money for this event and Charles can say “slim down the coronation and give that money straight to these 1000 families who can’t afford heating” is it? The money will get swallowed up in some other useless and embarrassing thing the country pays for (like decorating MPs’ second homes
) so it might as well go on a useless but at least makes us look good for a couple of days thing!
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I'm the same. I've been known to say that I'd rather be hit than have all the verbal and emotional abuse which lasts longer and causes years of damage. A lot of damaged people seek out a home in the military, myself included.
On another note, the Duke of Gloucester will be remembering his brother this week.
How Prince William of Gloucester, the Queen’s cousin and ‘the other Prince William’, became a tragic figure of royal history
To mark the anniversary of the week of his death, Tatler looks back at the life of ‘the other Prince William’, Prince William of Gloucester whose life ended in tragic circumstances
I completely understand.I'm the same. I've been known to say that I'd rather be hit than have all the verbal and emotional abuse which lasts longer and causes years of damage. A lot of damaged people seek out a home in the military, myself included.
On another note, the Duke of Gloucester will be remembering his brother this week.
How Prince William of Gloucester, the Queen’s cousin and ‘the other Prince William’, became a tragic figure of royal history
To mark the anniversary of the week of his death, Tatler looks back at the life of ‘the other Prince William’, Prince William of Gloucester whose life ended in tragic circumstanceswww.tatler.com
Don’t get me wrong. If my kids are being shits I’ll yell, but it’s just typical mom stuff! But there’s a very different kind of yelling. So I can resonate with Harry, as you can to. He was in the middle of a very, very strained marriage as a young boy. I think Diana was a very needy woman and lent on her children to, which isn’t right at all. She should’ve been their strength, not them hers. I remember a teacher correcting me at school and raising her voice at me, after a particularly bad few days at home. I was 9 and I actually wet myself. That’s how distraught I was & it’s never left me. I think, even people who may be aren’t massive fans of Harry, need to take a step back and see he’s obviously been very affected by his parents marriage & divorce! All the titles & money in the world can’t repair the damage done by some parents!
As someone not from the UK, I think the royal family is one of the unique things and while it's an oddity they might as well make the most of it and put on a show for the coronation.
It's a good advert for UK PLC and the streets all hosed down looking nice broadcast worldwide is cheaper compared to running a big ad campaign for the country. The money per head wouldn't stretch to more than a pot noodle.
Charles has said he want's a coronation that's value for money, which seems like the right choice to benefit everyone.
But in these tough times they could announce a plan for the crown estate to boost revenue and how much they pay into the coffers. Maybe open up Buckingham palace way more?
Australia no doubt spent millions on this to promote their country.
It's a good advert for UK PLC and the streets all hosed down looking nice broadcast worldwide is cheaper compared to running a big ad campaign for the country. The money per head wouldn't stretch to more than a pot noodle.
Charles has said he want's a coronation that's value for money, which seems like the right choice to benefit everyone.
But in these tough times they could announce a plan for the crown estate to boost revenue and how much they pay into the coffers. Maybe open up Buckingham palace way more?
Australia no doubt spent millions on this to promote their country.
And they obviously don't want him to write his book about being badly treated by the Royals from what I hear of his petulance.
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I agree. The Royals are there, we may as well show off the Crown Jewels for the purpose they are for ( apart from the Koh I noor there's no point starting an argument about that) and The Queens funeral and the accession stuff was interesting I thought, but didn't last long. So even if the government are using the Royals as a smokescreen for their failures, it won't last long. It will probably be worse in the long term as extra Bank holidays always hit gdp
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