The Ingham Family #39 Hey! GingerTones! Leave them (teen) girls alone!

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Slightly controversial opinion... while I feel that contacting the company and head office is suitable, I don’t feel that contacting the media is. I’m no way defending Chris or his actions, I’m more thinking about the effects of Isabelle and Esme. While contacting head office may have the impact that people want, contacting The Sun would just put everything out there.

Am I making any sense? I’m tired. I hate the Sun. I worry about Isabelle and Esme. Isla and Jace are far too young to be aware of anything, but Isabelle is that age where she can just google Chris and see everything and Esme is old enough to comprehend.
I agree partially about what you’re saying, but remember Sarah & Chris brought this on themselves. They are not only grown adults, but parents and are solely responsible for their own actions. They have not protected their children from this at all. Isabelle would definitely know what is going on and Esme probably too.
 
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I think we should only contact the media if he sends any more teenage girls sexual messages and only if there is concrete proof.


I will do. I have sent a further message to the hotel about the ifam filming people through the fence and arranging meetups.
The ifam filming through the fence is so Wrong!
 
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I agree partially about what you’re saying, but remember Sarah & Chris brought this on themselves. They are not only grown adults, but parents and are solely responsible for their own actions. They have not protected their children from this at all. Isabelle would definitely know what is going on and Esme probably too.
Just because they bought it on themselves doesn’t give people the right to affect a child’s emotional well-being.

I’ve only just starting following the Inghams and this thread, and while I feel Sarah and Chris have about 3 brain cells between them and little to none common sense, I do feel huge empathy towards Isabelle and Esme. Isabelle as she has entire other family with other siblings who she appears not to see and is living with a step dad who was grooming girls not that much older than her. Esme because she’s a redhead and Chris is angry towards redheads, ha!

I’ve met plenty of abhorrent parents in my job and in my life, but I’d a firm believer of protecting the kids until the bitter end unless they are emotionally mature enough to deal with the consequences. Esme is under 10 so not at all, Isabelle appears to be the only teenager in existence who wants to socialise and be with her family so strikes me as immature. No way mature enough to deal with her step dad being over bbc news, the sun etc again.

I will say one out of line comment; if I was Isabelle’s Dad or step mum, I’d be fighting for custody over that girl.
 
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Just because they bought it on themselves doesn’t give people the right to affect a child’s emotional well-being.

I’ve only just starting following the Inghams and this thread, and while I feel Sarah and Chris have about 3 brain cells between them and little to none common sense, I do feel huge empathy towards Isabelle and Esme. Isabelle as she has entire other family with other siblings who she appears not to see and is living with a step dad who was grooming girls not that much older than her. Esme because she’s a redhead and Chris is angry towards redheads, ha!

I’ve met plenty of abhorrent parents in my job and in my life, but I’d a firm believer of protecting the kids until the bitter end.

I will say one out of line comment; if I was Isabelle’s Dad or step mum, I’d be fighting for custody over that girl.
I also feel for the ingham girls but what about any potential girls he may groom if allowed to get away with this what about any potential victims emotional well being. The media might be the only way of keeping it public so that parents who are less aware of the whole situation find out. I've even considered informing the local police if they try a meet up as not sure how I would feel if he did manage to do anything to any children or young girls and I hadn't done anything.
 
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Try contacting this chick, she deals with the ETI Group media, ETI Group own the Viva Chain

Media Contact: Allison Kugel
Full Scale Media 212-537-9236 [email protected]

 
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I wouldn’t contact the media .. it’s setting legal precedent for building a case of being malicious and intent of ongoing predatory harassment.

The hotel is made aware of the allegations, media is going too far, it’s consideted vexatious.

Unfortunately legally he is getting close to being able to prove a determined campaign of adverse reputation being waged against him to ensure financial penalty. Sadly as he wasn’t ever charged, he may well be coming to nearer to having grounds for damages
I can completely understand your reasoning. Just out of interest what would the process be and who would they theoretically be able to claim damages from? As it’s not an individual more a group of largely anonymous to some extent individuals? I’m just curious as to how these cases are dealt with x
 
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Chris and Sarah are directors of The Ingham Family Ltd! They are a registered company, not Joe Bloggs away on a holiday.

People are contacting VivaHotels to voice their displeasure of the business relationship VivaHotels has with Ingham Family Ltd. He as a director of Ingham family ltd, abused his power and was messaging young girls for his own personal gratification,

The ifam are to young to understand they are a business, and not private individuals.
 
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I absolutely cannot stand Sarah & Chris and the fact they blagged a free holiday is disgusting to me..... the hotel has definetely been lazy when it comes to researching influencers and who get's freebies but we don't know what's happened behind the scenes and who is in control of letting influencers come for free. Reviews are supposed to honestly reflect a customer's time there, I'm not on board with leaving fake reviews at all, it just rubs me the wrong way.
I don't care how big or small a business is, we have a problem that can be reported via email and/or social media.. let's leave the reviews to be what they are, reviews by actual customer's.
 
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I can completely understand your reasoning. Just out of interest what would the process be and who would they theoretically be able to claim damages from? As it’s not an individual more a group of largely anonymous to some extent individuals? I’m just curious as to how these cases are dealt with x
If they can prove they lost money ie they had to pay for their Viva stay because of all the complaints against them etc they could argue that he did nothing “illegal” and that he has been targeted and defamed and lost wages and reputation etc .. damages are worked out on physical losses predominantly. Because we know they’re all over this site they could suggest it’s a targeted campaign to damage them financially

He’s not been charged or convicted and although his behaviour is 🤢 legally he’s in the stronger position for damages
 
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I absolutely cannot stand Sarah & Chris and the fact they blagged a free holiday is disgusting to me..... the hotel has definetely been lazy when it comes to researching influencers and who get's freebies but we don't know what's happened behind the scenes and who is in control of letting influencers come for free. Reviews are supposed to honestly reflect a customer's time there, I'm not on board with leaving fake reviews at all, it just rubs me the wrong way.
I don't care how big or small a business is, we have a problem that can be reported via email and/or social media.. let's leave the reviews to be what they are, reviews by actual customer's.
I agree if company takes action if so then credit to the hotel evan if it's just not to film on hotel grounds but if they just shrug it under the carpet when its serious allegations then sorry but that means they support perverts - thats my opinion anyway take it or leave it
 
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If they can prove they lost money ie they had to pay for their Viva stay because of all the complaints against them etc they could argue that he did nothing “illegal” and that he has been targeted and defamed and lost wages and reputation etc .. damages are worked out on physical losses predominantly. Because we know they’re all over this site they could suggest it’s a targeted campaign to damage them financially

He’s not been charged or convicted and although his behaviour is 🤢 legally he’s in the stronger position for damages
But surely there is solid proof from all the evidence Jess and the other girls gave, plus the police statement, that show that the complaints that were made were reasonable and out of concern for the safety of ther guests staying at the hotel.
 
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If they can prove they lost money ie they had to pay for their Viva stay because of all the complaints against them etc they could argue that he did nothing “illegal” and that he has been targeted and defamed and lost wages and reputation etc .. damages are worked out on physical losses predominantly. Because we know they’re all over this site they could suggest it’s a targeted campaign to damage them financially

He’s not been charged or convicted and although his behaviour is 🤢 legally he’s in the stronger position for damages
Thank you for taking the time to explain, it’s not something I know anything about. Is there a central public fund to pay damages ie instead of sueing an individual or company? I wonder also during any sort of case like that would he need to discuss further or acknowledge or deny the original allegations or would it be that as no criminal charges are brought it would be insignificant
 
Is she for real? Like someone would check out of a hotel and move to another one!

If that is true it's not a good thing, I'd be concerned for mine and my children's safety!
She's probably only saying they did that to try to convince the hotel they're super duper influencers and will bring more business to them if they're allowed to stay.
If they can prove they lost money ie they had to pay for their Viva stay because of all the complaints against them etc they could argue that he did nothing “illegal” and that he has been targeted and defamed and lost wages and reputation etc .. damages are worked out on physical losses predominantly. Because we know they’re all over this site they could suggest it’s a targeted campaign to damage them financially

He’s not been charged or convicted and although his behaviour is 🤢 legally he’s in the stronger position for damages
He would first have to prove in court that he did nothing illegal in the first place and the allegations were false which means all of his communications be handed over etc.. That would be fun to see. The first thing the judge would do is get confirmation from the police that he sent sexual messages to children and bam, his claim would be thrown out. Not illegal as she was over 16 but still sexually messaging children. He wouldn't dare let anyone have access to his data, imagine what would come out.

The reason why people are contacting the hotel and potentially contacting media is on the factual basis of him sexually messaging a child which has been confirmed by police, he can't bring harrassment cases against any of us or anyone else for sharing facts to those associated with him in order to protect children he is coming into contact with.

They're claiming they have a harassment case being prepared just to try to get people scared and to shutup. We're not going anywhere Creepy and Lazy, we're here to stay and will continue to shout about it to everyone.
 
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Just catching up a couple of days..... Nothing much changes - same old crap, different country. I love how they think they can escape but the travelling tit show just trundles along behind them. The may have only packed two cases but they're still travelling with a tit tonne of excess baggage!

As the saying goes.....no rest for the wicked, eh? :ROFLMAO:
 
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Atleast they won't be allowed meet ups in the hotel.
They had people turn up today taking a video through the fence and going to meet them at the pool side.

The people that they met were wearing white wrist bands, obviously for a different hotel.

Who would want to go a hotel on holiday where people are taking videos through fences and bushes of children in swimsuits and uploading to the internet! Plus any tom dick or harry can turn up at the pool from another hotel and no-one bats an eyelid!!
 
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But surely there is solid proof from all the evidence Jess and the other girls gave, plus the police statement, that show that the complaints that were made were reasonable and out of concern for the safety of ther guests staying at the hotel.
Morally yes but legally no, it’s about costs only and although there’s reasonable moderation undertaken, they weren’t under the age of consent in uk and wasn’t followed up in the us .. it’s still only allegations of an unsavoury nature.

Damages are civil claims for financial wrongs essentially. concerns for others etc don’t come into it, it’s only if he can establish he’s lost money directly with Viva over the allegations as they are only allegations loosely speaking
 
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As people have said earlier why do they not take the girls to the hotel entertainment at night? I think it's because he is Chris Ingham, no way is he able to sit in a crowded complex with drunk Brits surrounding him, he's a known groomer and he sticks out like a sore thumb, not safe for him or the family to be down there is my guess, have to skulk off to their room every night.
 
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Just catching up a couple of days..... Nothing much changes - same old crap, different country. I love how they think they can escape but the travelling tit show just trundles along behind them. The may have only packed two cases but they're still travelling with a tit tonne of excess baggage!

As the saying goes.....no rest for the wicked, eh? :ROFLMAO:
Would be a real pleasure to watch them visit Florida this summer.... and throw away the 🗝
 
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