I'm not messaging the hotel again but maybe someone else needs to?
@Dontspillthemilk I also agree that her Dad should be fighting for her. Then again though if he was paid off like the rumours suggests then he is as bad as Sarah and Chris.
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@Dontspillthemilk I also agree that her Dad should be fighting for her. Then again though if he was paid off like the rumours suggests then he is as bad as Sarah and Chris.
If they can prove they lost money ie they had to pay for their Viva stay because of all the complaints against them etc they could argue that he did nothing “illegal” and that he has been targeted and defamed and lost wages and reputation etc .. damages are worked out on physical losses predominantly. Because we know they’re all over this site they could suggest it’s a targeted campaign to damage them financially
He’s not been charged or convicted and although his behaviour islegally he’s in the stronger position for damages
Damages have to be proven yes but he would also have to prove that he had been defamed and thats where he would fall down as it doesn't matter if it was illegal or not its whether it was true, I have only ever when complaining said that he had sent messages of a sexual nature to girls of 16 years ive cited newspaper articles etc he would have to prove all that incorrect which he couldn't he doesn't have any case.
Oh absolutely, I just think it’s wrong that people are already suggesting to go the bad reviews bombarding route. That never works and would only work to their advantage anyway because it only makes us look like actual trolls.
We don’t know what’s really going on behind the scenes but hopefully they actually are doing something about it.
Yeah I was referring to going to the media not complaining to the hotel.
Complaining to the Hotel is fine but going to the media to coerce the hotel to act as a few suggestions made is pushing the vexatious harassment barrow
I.e. the hotel didn’t do what I wanted so I complained to the media to get a direct result against creepy which my intent was it would cost him money ie pay for the room or pay damages to the hotel for breach on contract etc,
Morally I have no problem at all seeing him cashflow restricted for his actions, I’m just saying legally we don’t want to give him the upper hand to diminish his actions
I think he probably pulls the excuse of having to edit, and no way would Sarah take them on their own.
I've been thinking. About this situation and trying to put myself in each situation such as the Inghams, as a parent to a fan, first off no matter how successful my YouTube was there is no way I would be comfortable with teenagers of any sex coming up to me on holiday as if I'm such a celeb for filming my life doing what each and every individual does on a daily basis, hand on heart I'd be more embarresed that I was sitting there on a scrounged holiday whilst those supposed fans family went out to work grafting for that holiday. But then I'm quite shy and defo not self important. After allegations and knowing how much crap hotel was going to get encouraging young people around me as an adult I'd want to do opposite. I wouldn't want to encourage them and want to jump in water with them it's odd very odd.
As a parent if my child wanted to swap hotels to be near to a vlogging channel absolute no way, I'd feel like a stalker and a sad person, if we walked past unintentionally then different but I wouldn't swap hotels. They are not really celebs are they that's the mind of the deluded family itself and the ifam, what do they do that's so important. Nothing. It's just all odd.
As a parent if my child wanted to swap hotels to be near to a vlogging channel absolute no way, I'd feel like a stalker and a sad person, if we walked past unintentionally then different but I wouldn't swap hotels. They are not really celebs are they that's the mind of the deluded family itself and the ifam, what do they do that's so important. Nothing. It's just all odd.
An Ode to The Minghams and Viva Sunrise Hotel (sing to the tune of "Viva Forever" by the Spice Girls)
Do you still remember how things used to be?
The Inghams together, believing whatever
Captain Creepy said to Lazy.
Both of them were dreamers,
Then headliners in "The Sun".
(Alleged) seedy behaviour, band-aid baby he gave her,
But hell no situation.
Hasta mañana, brainwashed ifam.
Viva Sunrise, we won't stop "hating",
He might vlog his skating, in your hotel lift.
Live forever, like the greasy beanie,
You should've been a meany and not given a gift.
Agriculture vultures? They make me cringe with every word,
"Woohoooo"s down the lobby, the Missus all gobby,
(Can't take the Seacroft outta the bird).
Giant gimbal in his fingers, filming never stops,
Edits while they sleep, every memory to keep,
But the stats and figures drop.
Hasta mañana, Jobcentre Plus.
Viva Sunrise, with 3 star rating,
Where overgrown (one-trick) skating Emos go.
Live forever, like the stinky beanie,
Ever-ginger, like we don't know.
5 Star hols all paid for, was it just a dream?
Secrets unfold, the cars are all old,
And the crap is hitting the fan.
Hasta mañana, chavvies on tour.
Viva Sunrise, we'll be watching,
For the gruesome twosome's ugly demise.
Karma's coming, you crazy fooo-oooo,
For your very lot of lies.
Viva Sunrise, we'll be waiting,
Everlasting, like her crusty lip.
Where's the "Sorry"? Closure is overdue.
Ever-cocky....The Minghams make me gip.
Do you still remember how things used to be?
The Inghams together, believing whatever
Captain Creepy said to Lazy.
Both of them were dreamers,
Then headliners in "The Sun".
(Alleged) seedy behaviour, band-aid baby he gave her,
But hell no situation.
Hasta mañana, brainwashed ifam.
Viva Sunrise, we won't stop "hating",
He might vlog his skating, in your hotel lift.
Live forever, like the greasy beanie,
You should've been a meany and not given a gift.
Agriculture vultures? They make me cringe with every word,
"Woohoooo"s down the lobby, the Missus all gobby,
(Can't take the Seacroft outta the bird).
Giant gimbal in his fingers, filming never stops,
Edits while they sleep, every memory to keep,
But the stats and figures drop.
Hasta mañana, Jobcentre Plus.
Viva Sunrise, with 3 star rating,
Where overgrown (one-trick) skating Emos go.
Live forever, like the stinky beanie,
Ever-ginger, like we don't know.
5 Star hols all paid for, was it just a dream?
Secrets unfold, the cars are all old,
And the crap is hitting the fan.
Hasta mañana, chavvies on tour.
Viva Sunrise, we'll be watching,
For the gruesome twosome's ugly demise.
Karma's coming, you crazy fooo-oooo,
For your very lot of lies.
Viva Sunrise, we'll be waiting,
Everlasting, like her crusty lip.
Where's the "Sorry"? Closure is overdue.
Ever-cocky....The Minghams make me gip.
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Are you British, because I don’t think that’s quite how it works here? He could try ‘harrassment’, but it’d be a real roll of the dice - a very expensive process with the applicant bearing the cost if the ‘harrasser’ has no means to pay even if he won. All his dirty laundry would be dragged up in court for nothing. He could try and get an injunction, but courts would be extremely unlikely to support him. Again, very expensive. All he’s got are vague solicitors letters.
Do you have experience of uk law, as your ‘legal’ posts seem to be based on a different country’s law?If they can prove they lost money ie they had to pay for their Viva stay because of all the complaints against them etc they could argue that he did nothing “illegal” and that he has been targeted and defamed and lost wages and reputation etc .. damages are worked out on physical losses predominantly. Because we know they’re all over this site they could suggest it’s a targeted campaign to damage them financially
He’s not been charged or convicted and although his behaviour is
I used to watch these but got bored of the same thing and all the surprises
I used to watch them but don’t really know what went on it just got boring watching the same thing so stopped watching
I don’t have time for this.
Again with the jealous comment.. what are these people... 12?
The fact all people want is for creepy to own what he has done.. messaging very young fans inappropriately.. tells that he is the immature one.
I've never denied following the Ingham family at the start but way before all the facts came out he was a perv I stopped. This was due to Sarah making a comment of how she felt good still shopping in the likes of Primark when they no longer had too.. like she was suddenly beyond the rest of the world. This would have been around the time esme got the Iceland deal so assume they pocketed that money and not put it away for esme's adulthood like any other decent parent would have.
As soon as Creepy becomes an adult.. unfollows 'fans' under 18. No longer dm's anyone he doesnt know in person (or are actual adults) and actually admits he has been led by his dick and not any adult brain cells he may have his head. Let alone breaking the GDPR laws over and over. Then and only then will people stop pushing for their channel to be stopped.
So jog on with your silly little childish comments.
The fact all people want is for creepy to own what he has done.. messaging very young fans inappropriately.. tells that he is the immature one.
I've never denied following the Ingham family at the start but way before all the facts came out he was a perv I stopped. This was due to Sarah making a comment of how she felt good still shopping in the likes of Primark when they no longer had too.. like she was suddenly beyond the rest of the world. This would have been around the time esme got the Iceland deal so assume they pocketed that money and not put it away for esme's adulthood like any other decent parent would have.
As soon as Creepy becomes an adult.. unfollows 'fans' under 18. No longer dm's anyone he doesnt know in person (or are actual adults) and actually admits he has been led by his dick and not any adult brain cells he may have his head. Let alone breaking the GDPR laws over and over. Then and only then will people stop pushing for their channel to be stopped.
So jog on with your silly little childish comments.
Theres 3 reasons why I cant stand these people the first is Chris is a perv and with children issys age its worrying that hes still filming in pools and changing rooms and secondly they porn there children out for views because let's face it there boring as duck - without there children tbh there boring as duck but it's better to watch kids then adults shopping in poundland everyday and 3rd they clearly sponge of the "ifam" whilst mocking them on camera with all there surprises and presents telling people how lucky there family is because there so far up themselves there starting to think there royal 
there also mocking every hard working mother and father that has to work 16hour daily shifts to afford to take there family abroad this is somethink 10 year old little ifam cant rap there heads round
there also mocking every hard working mother and father that has to work 16hour daily shifts to afford to take there family abroad this is somethink 10 year old little ifam cant rap there heads round
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All 3 girls and eventually Jace are puppets at Ingham Ltd. Chris and Sarah will cling to their brand with everything they have got, they have not lived in the real world for at least 2 years so will not go away without a fight. I think all the negativity makes them fight even harder, the best thing that could happen is that their views drop through the floor and they can no longer afford to make a full time living out of the ‘ifam’ until that day they won’t give up.... I am not saying people shouldn’t report them etc, but in my view any publicity is better than no publicity if no one cared or watched their Vlogs then the real panic would start for them....
Any children? Personally I do not believe Chris has an interest in children, is not a “nonce” or “peodophile”. He likes teenage girls though, barely legal upwards, as do, like it or not, many men. Just look into the past of various rock stars for proof of that. He never met her and as far as we know has not met or done anything inappropriate with any 16 year old. The would of could of should of doesn’t matter. The problem is however, just as with a teacher, he is in a position of trust whilst simultaneously having access to many young women who are desperate to meet him. A decent person would never ever have been dming any girl of 16 regardless of the content of message, or make any form of physical contact if meeting any. So for me this is when elements of grooming come in as his messages however received by the recipient have been inappropriate and should never have happened. Especially knowing the recipients many be struggling with their mental health, as many of the ifam seem to.
Rather than create a hysteria which reflects badly if a stranger, or someone from the hotel were to read the last dozen pages, I say keep it simple and factual.
This guy and his family are at your hotel. They do not respect other people’s privacy so you may want to look at asking them not to film whilst on your property if any third party is likely to be in shot. They should not be organising any meet and greets in your property. Police in the UK confirmed the father had sent messages of a sexual nature to a 16 year old fan. Whilst they never met, we believe his messages show a pattern concurrent with that of a groomer. For the safety of your other paying guests, you may therefore wish to take this information on board and take such action as you consider appropriate.
There’s a danger of just coming across as a vindictive internet troll otherwise, and Chris may well have forewarned them such a group existed. I always think we should always consider how Isabelle or Esme might feel about reading anything posted here. It’s their lives, their parents...and you can’t just excuse your own comments or actions by saying it’s their parents fault. There’s a collective responsibility.
My thoughts anyway.
@ batflower16
What is it you think we’re all Jealous of? Do you really think people are on here wishing we could skate down the pole at Morrisons all day or have a garage full of crap from home bargains? The fact of the matter is the ingham family live a very boring, mundane, life. They do nothing to make me jealous or envious. Almost everyday is spent at home with the occasional trip to Morrisons, ikea, matalan or a distant park so Chris isn’t recognised by the locals. Chris seems to live in fear of entering America when he’s constantly said this was his favourite place in the world and big expensive Holidays are actually quite rare for them now. Their future is very predictable. Home days, slow cooker surprise, skulking through Europe in a caravan during the school holidays and huge toy hauls where the girls fake being overjoyed with their garage stuffers. They don’t seem to enjoy vlogging anymore yet they have to do it in order to pay the mortgage on the home that Sarah claimed wasn’t their forever home when she moved in. So no. We’re not jealous.
Yes I did used to like this family at one point and the reason that changed is because while they were going through what should have been the worst time in their life if you claim somebody has falsely accused you of something then why did they still film every day like nothing had happened and life was amazing and wonderful? Why did Chris stay silent for months on the matter? It didn’t add up and I didn’t believe him. Once the rose tinted glasses are removed you really do see the fakeness they put out daily. They are not the people I used to enjoy watching. It’s as simple as that.
What is it you think we’re all Jealous of? Do you really think people are on here wishing we could skate down the pole at Morrisons all day or have a garage full of crap from home bargains? The fact of the matter is the ingham family live a very boring, mundane, life. They do nothing to make me jealous or envious. Almost everyday is spent at home with the occasional trip to Morrisons, ikea, matalan or a distant park so Chris isn’t recognised by the locals. Chris seems to live in fear of entering America when he’s constantly said this was his favourite place in the world and big expensive Holidays are actually quite rare for them now. Their future is very predictable. Home days, slow cooker surprise, skulking through Europe in a caravan during the school holidays and huge toy hauls where the girls fake being overjoyed with their garage stuffers. They don’t seem to enjoy vlogging anymore yet they have to do it in order to pay the mortgage on the home that Sarah claimed wasn’t their forever home when she moved in. So no. We’re not jealous.
Yes I did used to like this family at one point and the reason that changed is because while they were going through what should have been the worst time in their life if you claim somebody has falsely accused you of something then why did they still film every day like nothing had happened and life was amazing and wonderful? Why did Chris stay silent for months on the matter? It didn’t add up and I didn’t believe him. Once the rose tinted glasses are removed you really do see the fakeness they put out daily. They are not the people I used to enjoy watching. It’s as simple as that.
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Sorry I disagree my daughter is a teenager and any married father if 30's who trys to shag her is a pervert 5 or 16 if it's your daughter you wouldn't care
At 16 there still children until 18 - yes consent between two 16 year olds is ok but not a 30 and a 16 year old
I didn’t say otherwise, in fact I said this. It’s inappropriate and yes pervy.
There is someone me and my husband grew up with evan in hes 20's he was chatting up 15year old hes now in his 30's hes in prison for sexually indecent assult of a 10 year old you just never know
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