I don’t think it’s wrong to publicly point out poor behaviours or personality traits in children…otherwise how would anyone ever improve their behaviour when it’s never pointed out to them. In this case it’s clear from this history all seen on YouTube that these children’s behaviour is a direct result of being isolated from society, lack of education and being groomed into being adults from as soon as they are able to talk, being encouraged to be materialistic and also encouraged to be focused on very narrow career goals from a young age. They are also being exploited to generate an income for their parents to not have to work and have luxuries.
My previous comments about people being harsh on Heze weren’t a criticism in general of children’s behaviour being pointed out here. It was that I felt that as a teenage boy, you can’t expect him to be media ready for a camera to be shoved in his face 24/7, he displayed an attitude but I think by most people’s standards there was nothing terrible. I’ve worked in a secondary school and experienced being shouted at and sworn at and wilfully disobeyed. Heze is very polite and well behaved by comparison of what you see in most comprehensive schools.
The problems with Heze’s current behaviour I don’t think are as apparent/serious as people have stated. However I think he is ticking time-bomb in regards to his mental health. Either the pressure to succeed will get too much or he will not be good enough. Either way he is at risk. That is when his behaviour will seriously deteriorate, and it will happen at a time when he is changing hormonally and will be railing against his constrained upbringing.
I think these threads, regardless of all our different opinions, are a good resource for the children once they get older as a way to begin understanding how they were used and groomed by their parents. The one thing I think we all tend to agree on is that Tim and Ella’s parenting decisions are already showing signs of being detrimental to the children’s futures and that they are at the root of any difficulties the children have such as making new friends or education. I think we also all agree that the children are not benefiting financially from the public exposure of being on YouTube, the money isn’t being saved for university funds or first home deposits…it’s being spent on sports cars, meals out and holidays for the parents. They don’t even appear to feed or educate the children, who are the breadwinners, adequately. The only positive thing I can say about their parenting is that they do ensure their children are adequately clothed, however even that isn’t a straightforward issue because they encourage materialism and vanity over more important things such as education and imagination.
The problem with not pointing out bad behaviour in children (even if we don’t agree on the specifics of what is good/bad and the severity of it), is that if we aren’t pointing it out, nobody else will be. We can write here the logic of why it’s not the children’s fault for them to read when they have access to this thread as adults…but when they are 25 and have terrible attitudes, can’t keep jobs, can’t get into education, can’t pay their bills because all their benefit money is spent on clothes…or end up having mental health spirals because they have been over-exposed publicly and now feel like failures for not becoming major stars and millionaires…society won’t look at them as adults and say nothing is their fault/responsibility.
Once they are adults they will need to work backwards to fix the mistakes of their childhood otherwise this upbringing will screw them over for life. The Grimwade children, through the existence of threads like this, have the opportunity for some rational insight into the damage their parents are doing and how is it is affecting their development. They won’t get that from the bots/blinded comments they get from YouTube blowing smoke up the asses of their parents.
One positive about Heze and his football obsession that’s been groomed into him…at least it’s resulted in him being forced to attend school. He might be the only one of the kids who ends up with any GCSEs. The schooling may result in him being the only one who has a decent chance of gaining normal employment if his dream career doesn’t work out.
My previous comments about people being harsh on Heze weren’t a criticism in general of children’s behaviour being pointed out here. It was that I felt that as a teenage boy, you can’t expect him to be media ready for a camera to be shoved in his face 24/7, he displayed an attitude but I think by most people’s standards there was nothing terrible. I’ve worked in a secondary school and experienced being shouted at and sworn at and wilfully disobeyed. Heze is very polite and well behaved by comparison of what you see in most comprehensive schools.
The problems with Heze’s current behaviour I don’t think are as apparent/serious as people have stated. However I think he is ticking time-bomb in regards to his mental health. Either the pressure to succeed will get too much or he will not be good enough. Either way he is at risk. That is when his behaviour will seriously deteriorate, and it will happen at a time when he is changing hormonally and will be railing against his constrained upbringing.
I think these threads, regardless of all our different opinions, are a good resource for the children once they get older as a way to begin understanding how they were used and groomed by their parents. The one thing I think we all tend to agree on is that Tim and Ella’s parenting decisions are already showing signs of being detrimental to the children’s futures and that they are at the root of any difficulties the children have such as making new friends or education. I think we also all agree that the children are not benefiting financially from the public exposure of being on YouTube, the money isn’t being saved for university funds or first home deposits…it’s being spent on sports cars, meals out and holidays for the parents. They don’t even appear to feed or educate the children, who are the breadwinners, adequately. The only positive thing I can say about their parenting is that they do ensure their children are adequately clothed, however even that isn’t a straightforward issue because they encourage materialism and vanity over more important things such as education and imagination.
The problem with not pointing out bad behaviour in children (even if we don’t agree on the specifics of what is good/bad and the severity of it), is that if we aren’t pointing it out, nobody else will be. We can write here the logic of why it’s not the children’s fault for them to read when they have access to this thread as adults…but when they are 25 and have terrible attitudes, can’t keep jobs, can’t get into education, can’t pay their bills because all their benefit money is spent on clothes…or end up having mental health spirals because they have been over-exposed publicly and now feel like failures for not becoming major stars and millionaires…society won’t look at them as adults and say nothing is their fault/responsibility.
Once they are adults they will need to work backwards to fix the mistakes of their childhood otherwise this upbringing will screw them over for life. The Grimwade children, through the existence of threads like this, have the opportunity for some rational insight into the damage their parents are doing and how is it is affecting their development. They won’t get that from the bots/blinded comments they get from YouTube blowing smoke up the asses of their parents.
One positive about Heze and his football obsession that’s been groomed into him…at least it’s resulted in him being forced to attend school. He might be the only one of the kids who ends up with any GCSEs. The schooling may result in him being the only one who has a decent chance of gaining normal employment if his dream career doesn’t work out.