The Grimwades #9 Content is crap, kids are trapped, Tim can't rap, Ella's in a flap

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I don’t think it’s wrong to publicly point out poor behaviours or personality traits in children…otherwise how would anyone ever improve their behaviour when it’s never pointed out to them. In this case it’s clear from this history all seen on YouTube that these children’s behaviour is a direct result of being isolated from society, lack of education and being groomed into being adults from as soon as they are able to talk, being encouraged to be materialistic and also encouraged to be focused on very narrow career goals from a young age. They are also being exploited to generate an income for their parents to not have to work and have luxuries.

My previous comments about people being harsh on Heze weren’t a criticism in general of children’s behaviour being pointed out here. It was that I felt that as a teenage boy, you can’t expect him to be media ready for a camera to be shoved in his face 24/7, he displayed an attitude but I think by most people’s standards there was nothing terrible. I’ve worked in a secondary school and experienced being shouted at and sworn at and wilfully disobeyed. Heze is very polite and well behaved by comparison of what you see in most comprehensive schools.

The problems with Heze’s current behaviour I don’t think are as apparent/serious as people have stated. However I think he is ticking time-bomb in regards to his mental health. Either the pressure to succeed will get too much or he will not be good enough. Either way he is at risk. That is when his behaviour will seriously deteriorate, and it will happen at a time when he is changing hormonally and will be railing against his constrained upbringing.

I think these threads, regardless of all our different opinions, are a good resource for the children once they get older as a way to begin understanding how they were used and groomed by their parents. The one thing I think we all tend to agree on is that Tim and Ella’s parenting decisions are already showing signs of being detrimental to the children’s futures and that they are at the root of any difficulties the children have such as making new friends or education. I think we also all agree that the children are not benefiting financially from the public exposure of being on YouTube, the money isn’t being saved for university funds or first home deposits…it’s being spent on sports cars, meals out and holidays for the parents. They don’t even appear to feed or educate the children, who are the breadwinners, adequately. The only positive thing I can say about their parenting is that they do ensure their children are adequately clothed, however even that isn’t a straightforward issue because they encourage materialism and vanity over more important things such as education and imagination.

The problem with not pointing out bad behaviour in children (even if we don’t agree on the specifics of what is good/bad and the severity of it), is that if we aren’t pointing it out, nobody else will be. We can write here the logic of why it’s not the children’s fault for them to read when they have access to this thread as adults…but when they are 25 and have terrible attitudes, can’t keep jobs, can’t get into education, can’t pay their bills because all their benefit money is spent on clothes…or end up having mental health spirals because they have been over-exposed publicly and now feel like failures for not becoming major stars and millionaires…society won’t look at them as adults and say nothing is their fault/responsibility.

Once they are adults they will need to work backwards to fix the mistakes of their childhood otherwise this upbringing will screw them over for life. The Grimwade children, through the existence of threads like this, have the opportunity for some rational insight into the damage their parents are doing and how is it is affecting their development. They won’t get that from the bots/blinded comments they get from YouTube blowing smoke up the asses of their parents.

One positive about Heze and his football obsession that’s been groomed into him…at least it’s resulted in him being forced to attend school. He might be the only one of the kids who ends up with any GCSEs. The schooling may result in him being the only one who has a decent chance of gaining normal employment if his dream career doesn’t work out.
 
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People need to also understand that pointing out the behaviour in these kids is important because it shows some of the effects of control and emotional abuse on children. It’s not nice to read or hear about but that’s because unfortunately the truth isn’t always nice. This is a thread about the whole family therefore the kids who although are of course completely innocent , they will be discussed to a certain extent. This is not a thread just about Ella and Tim so coming on this thread and being confused or unhappy about the kids being discussed makes no sense. Everyone is entitled to give an opinion and make observations and yeah we won’t always agree on things that’s not a problem but what is a problem in my opinion and I’m sure many others agree is seeing Ella and Tim who are exploiting and emotionally abusing their children , putting it all online and people seeing this and not even trying to speak up about it and call out Ella and Tim.

None of the children are bad people they are innocent children ! they are not evil so nobody is blaming the children for the way they behave but we are calling out what their abusive and selfish parents are doing to their children and making their children act and think in negative ways that will likely be how they always act and think even when they grow up and become adults and that’s sad because look at how awful Tim is , no child deserves to turn out like him but poor Heze is displaying all the same characteristics as Tim and it’s such a shame because he’s just a kid but the way Heze speaks and thinks he’s learned from his horrible dad and nobody in his life is there to put a stop to it. Look at how weak and submissive Ella is she thinks that’s something to be proud of letting your husband control you when it’s not so she’s not a good influence on her children either. Sadly the children are being abused by their parents so nobody on here is blaming the children but trying to call out what two terrible parents are doing to their children.
 
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It’s both important and fascinating to record the progression in the children. YouTubing families are a relatively new business model, the public (fan) attitude to them seems to be general adoration, without any thought to the harm it is causing the children.

Ruby Franke being the worst possible example of when it goes wrong. Then there are families like the Radfords who have made their money mainly from just having more babies…some of the next generation of Radford girls are appearing to go down the same route of having as many babies as possible as soon as possible, without any focus first on education or home ownership, and flaunting their broods on social media for cash returns.

In time the morals of watching these social media channels and therefore funding these families who exploit their children will become more and more of a mainstream concern. Hopefully the trend of putting children on screen who are too young (or haven’t had an alternative viewpoint to consider…the Grimwades haven’t had online safety classes at school etc) to make easy cash will become distasteful to viewers and financial sponsors eventually. Hopefully YouTube will eventually de-moneyrise channels which focus on exploiting children’s personal lives. Being on family vlogs is very different to a job such as being a child actor, the children are not safeguarded and are very exposed, and generally not fully scripted.

What this generation of children raised on YouTube will give us that we’ve never seen before…if they don’t completely go off radar in adulthood…is a proper insight into the long-term impacts of abusive/exploitative parenting. For example, if Heze fails as a footballer, and in 15 years time is on YouTube with his own wife and children, exploiting, isolating, uneducating and controlling them in exactly the same way Tim is currently doing to him…is Heze, when he is aged 28, truly at fault for doing that, when he hasn’t learned any other way of being a husband/father? How much of that would be Heze’s own failings? And how much would he Tim’s?

This is why it is valuable to document here, because once YouTube is no use to Tim anymore he may delete the lot, including evidence that their own children then won’t have access to in later life.
 
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I don’t think it’s wrong to publicly point out poor behaviours or personality traits in children…otherwise how would anyone ever improve their behaviour when it’s never pointed out to them. In this case it’s clear from this history all seen on YouTube that these children’s behaviour is a direct result of being isolated from society, lack of education and being groomed into being adults from as soon as they are able to talk, being encouraged to be materialistic and also encouraged to be focused on very narrow career goals from a young age. They are also being exploited to generate an income for their parents to not have to work and have luxuries.

My previous comments about people being harsh on Heze weren’t a criticism in general of children’s behaviour being pointed out here. It was that I felt that as a teenage boy, you can’t expect him to be media ready for a camera to be shoved in his face 24/7, he displayed an attitude but I think by most people’s standards there was nothing terrible. I’ve worked in a secondary school and experienced being shouted at and sworn at and wilfully disobeyed. Heze is very polite and well behaved by comparison of what you see in most comprehensive schools.

The problems with Heze’s current behaviour I don’t think are as apparent/serious as people have stated. However I think he is ticking time-bomb in regards to his mental health. Either the pressure to succeed will get too much or he will not be good enough. Either way he is at risk. That is when his behaviour will seriously deteriorate, and it will happen at a time when he is changing hormonally and will be railing against his constrained upbringing.

I think these threads, regardless of all our different opinions, are a good resource for the children once they get older as a way to begin understanding how they were used and groomed by their parents. The one thing I think we all tend to agree on is that Tim and Ella’s parenting decisions are already showing signs of being detrimental to the children’s futures and that they are at the root of any difficulties the children have such as making new friends or education. I think we also all agree that the children are not benefiting financially from the public exposure of being on YouTube, the money isn’t being saved for university funds or first home deposits…it’s being spent on sports cars, meals out and holidays for the parents. They don’t even appear to feed or educate the children, who are the breadwinners, adequately. The only positive thing I can say about their parenting is that they do ensure their children are adequately clothed, however even that isn’t a straightforward issue because they encourage materialism and vanity over more important things such as education and imagination.

The problem with not pointing out bad behaviour in children (even if we don’t agree on the specifics of what is good/bad and the severity of it), is that if we aren’t pointing it out, nobody else will be. We can write here the logic of why it’s not the children’s fault for them to read when they have access to this thread as adults…but when they are 25 and have terrible attitudes, can’t keep jobs, can’t get into education, can’t pay their bills because all their benefit money is spent on clothes…or end up having mental health spirals because they have been over-exposed publicly and now feel like failures for not becoming major stars and millionaires…society won’t look at them as adults and say nothing is their fault/responsibility.

Once they are adults they will need to work backwards to fix the mistakes of their childhood otherwise this upbringing will screw them over for life. The Grimwade children, through the existence of threads like this, have the opportunity for some rational insight into the damage their parents are doing and how is it is affecting their development. They won’t get that from the bots/blinded comments they get from YouTube blowing smoke up the asses of their parents.

One positive about Heze and his football obsession that’s been groomed into him…at least it’s resulted in him being forced to attend school. He might be the only one of the kids who ends up with any GCSEs. The schooling may result in him being the only one who has a decent chance of gaining normal employment if his dream career doesn’t work out.
They make sure they are clothed well and they have to look good if they are the breadwinners. Also most of the expensive Nike clothes are free anyway from heze sponsorship. When they do buy clothes themselves for the kids it’s only primark or places like that.
 
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Heze is getting less articulate the older he gets. Tim has put his child on camera for a public speaking obligation for YouTube content…without first teaching him the basics in how to articulate.
 
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Heze is getting less articulate the older he gets. Tim has put his child on camera for a public speaking obligation for YouTube content…without first teaching him the basics in how to articulate.
You’re 100% right he’s getting less articulate the more times goes by and I think his siblings are the same or heading the same way because I’ve noticed the kids ramble a lot of the time they’re just saying words that Tim has put in their head but it doesn’t make sense and they don’t understand half of what they’re talking about because everything they say is thoughts and words that’s put into their head by their parents.

These kids don’t really know how to properly think for themselves because even when Ella or Tim asks them a question or their opinion on something , the poor kids don’t know how to form their own opinion but also they wouldn’t be allowed to have their own opinions because every time they’re asked a question , there’s only one right answer that Ella and Tim want to hear them say and the kids have been brain washed to say the right thing even if they don’t understand what they’re saying they just know it’s what they have to say and they get praise from the parents in return which all the kids compete for it’s sad how these kids are so manipulated by their parents.

I don’t believe for a second there’s any homeschooling going on in this family so they don’t get to learn things that would help them to develop mentally , articulate themselves and be able to have conversations that makes sense and have thoughts of their own but these kids don’t get that opportunity. They don’t get to have real friends they are close to and have bonds with and have conversations that would allow them to learn to have conversations without Ella and Tim hanging around keeping an eye on their every move so they can keep brain washing them and control them so it’s worrying cause will these kids ever get some freedom to be their own person who can speak and think for themselves?

Heze is luckier than his siblings atm because he is going to school because he’s playing for Chelsea so I’m glad he’s getting to experience something normal and hopefully it’ll give him options just incase the football career doesn’t go as planned cause I worry for his mental health if he doesn’t make it as a footballer cause he’s had this expectation and pressure put on him since he was born and poor kid has parents who don’t want him to be anything but a footballer and they’ve convinced him he will 100% be one so they apply the pressure all the time. I know not everyone has the same academic abilities some people struggle or just don’t enjoy education so it’s not that these kids have to go to uni but they deserve to at least achieve all their school qualifications and have options but they don’t get to have any of that they spend their days with drill sergeant Tim in the garden making them football train.
 
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What was Tim on about? Talking about there is a way to become a IT specialist besides going to school and studying? You just have to like football 'very much' and someone will just give you a job in IT? What? Anyone else catch that? What does this man have against school? He made Heze say you just have to like football very much to get a job working in a football-related field. That's insane.

I might be reading too much into it, but it looked like Heze was leaning away from Tim during that whole thing and was tense.
 
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What was Tim on about? Talking about there is a way to become a IT specialist besides going to school and studying? You just have to like football 'very much' and someone will just give you a job in IT? What? Anyone else catch that? What does this man have against school? He made Heze say you just have to like football very much to get a job working in a football-related field. That's insane.

I might be reading too much into it, but it looked like Heze was leaning away from Tim during that whole thing and was tense.
I haven’t seen it yet. They in Belgium now I’m sure Ella has begged a free hotel
 
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They need to reconsider putting up videos of the kids in swimwear.
Hosaana seems uncomfortable, she is going through puberty and appears self conscious.
There are too many weird people out there who get off on looking at little kids half clothed.
 
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Well Belgium or not I don’t think the kids be seeing anything other then the canteen and the pool and their room
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All their activities if anny are so isolated from the world and people yet post online for views. An empty pool with just themselves again. Yes a couple of people but that’s it. It’s not really a place kids go. I bet this is a football tournament
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Belgium has tournaments as my son plays so I bet that’s it. It’s not a holiday place for kids like Turkey or Greece. It’s all linked I bet you and kids are locked up as I said
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Ella didn’t want Tim to go alone and in-laws wouldn’t have 6 kids again
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I haven’t watch the post yet but all kids at sch in yr 10 not yr 9 like heze but he’s private sch so work experience. It’s normal Tim lol
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Well Belgium or not I don’t think the kids be seeing anything other then the canteen and the pool and their room
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All their activities if anny are so isolated from the world and people yet post online for views. An empty pool with just themselves again. Yes a couple of people but that’s it. It’s not really a place kids go. I bet this is a football tournament
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Belgium has tournaments as my son plays so I bet that’s it. It’s not a holiday place for kids like Turkey or Greece. It’s all linked I bet you and kids are locked up as I said
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Ella didn’t want Tim to go alone and in-laws wouldn’t have 6 kids again
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I haven’t watch the post yet but all kids at sch in yr 10 not yr 9 like heze but he’s private sch so work experience. It’s normal Tim lol
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Nah I think they read here (or their management does) and also that guy was posting comments from here on the youtube channel, and a lot of those comments were pointing out how on their other vacations the kids didn't do anything outside their airbnb. I think they are going to actually try to say that they 'do' take the kids to do fun things just like with the fake 'best friend' thing.

I hope there are other kids at the hotel they are staying at that they can interact with. But I have a feeling Tim wouldn't let them play in the pool that day.

Where is Heze? Are they there for something to do with him? I thought the season was over for him?
 
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Tim is so thick and manipulate. The school have clearly arranged a football club work experience because it’s the only way they will get Heze and Tim to agree to do it. That wasn’t about football…it was about showing him that there are other job options for when the almost inevitable happens and he doesn’t make it as a premier league player.

They are trying to tie-in other job options to what he is learning in school to inspire him to concentrate on getting qualifications as a backup plan. Heze may have looked uncomfortable because what Tim is saying is completely at odds with what his teachers are telling him. There’s also the fact that because Heze has been permanently attached to a football…he’s not done the other activities such as video games etc or been using a computer for schoolwork since he was younger…so it’s likely that in terms of general IT skills he will be way behind his classmates. The idea that Heze will magically end up working in technical job like IT, with no qualifications, no practice, skill or interest in it in his home life…is laughable. Even Heze knows it and is embarrassed by Tim claiming it can happen. Heze is also not used to anything other than Tim claiming he is a footballer and the thought of anything detracting from that destiny is also probably unsettling for Heze.
 
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Nah I think they read here (or their management does) and also that guy was posting comments from here on the youtube channel, and a lot of those comments were pointing out how on their other vacations the kids didn't do anything outside their airbnb. I think they are going to actually try to say that they 'do' take the kids to do fun things just like with the fake 'best friend' thing.

I hope there are other kids at the hotel they are staying at that they can interact with. But I have a feeling Tim wouldn't let them play in the pool that day.

Where is Heze? Are they there for something to do with him? I thought the season was over for him?
season is over but you still have tournaments and maybe training we do. They def read on here as someone said Halle doesn’t smile anywmore and thrrr so a post today saying Halle always making us smile. Well they sure don’t listen about sending them to school do they
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Tim is so thick and manipulate. The school have clearly arranged a football club work experience because it’s the only way they will get Heze and Tim to agree to do it. That wasn’t about football…it was about showing him that there are other job options for when the almost inevitable happens and he doesn’t make it as a premier league player.

They are trying to tie-in other job options to what he is learning in school to inspire him to concentrate on getting qualifications as a backup plan. Heze may have looked uncomfortable because what Tim is saying is completely at odds with what his teachers are telling him. There’s also the fact that because Heze has been permanently attached to a football…he’s not done the other activities such as video games etc or been using a computer for schoolwork since he was younger…so it’s likely that in terms of general IT skills he will be way behind his classmates. The idea that Heze will magically end up working in technical job like IT, with no qualifications, no practice, skill or interest in it in his home life…is laughable. Even Heze knows it and is embarrassed by Tim claiming it can happen. Heze is also not used to anything other than Tim claiming he is a footballer and the thought of anything detracting from that destiny is also probably unsettling for Heze.
Did you hear Tim say there are other ways of getting he jobs other then the qualifications. U think he meant contacts like him and heze and the girls linked with Chelsea. It’s obvious
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He think his kids are better then all the others and am the only ones to do these things and no one else. Mate they are worse off not better.
 
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Heze did look disbelieving when Tim said about u don’t need the qualifications. When else was taking Tim looked inpatient like he wanted to say oh duck the school he did he was restless
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When heze was talking that’s meant to say
 
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Tim is so thick and manipulate. The school have clearly arranged a football club work experience because it’s the only way they will get Heze and Tim to agree to do it. That wasn’t about football…it was about showing him that there are other job options for when the almost inevitable happens and he doesn’t make it as a premier league player.

They are trying to tie-in other job options to what he is learning in school to inspire him to concentrate on getting qualifications as a backup plan. Heze may have looked uncomfortable because what Tim is saying is completely at odds with what his teachers are telling him. There’s also the fact that because Heze has been permanently attached to a football…he’s not done the other activities such as video games etc or been using a computer for schoolwork since he was younger…so it’s likely that in terms of general IT skills he will be way behind his classmates. The idea that Heze will magically end up working in technical job like IT, with no qualifications, no practice, skill or interest in it in his home life…is laughable. Even Heze knows it and is embarrassed by Tim claiming it can happen. Heze is also not used to anything other than Tim claiming he is a footballer and the thought of anything detracting from that destiny is also probably unsettling for Heze.
I was getting the sense that Tim was trying to take the credit for Heze going on this field trip, like he wouldn't have ever had the opportunity if he hadn't pushed him in football. And you're right. Heze looked particularly uncomfortable when Tim was asking him if the people who were at all these jobs went to college or studied for these jobs. Heze said yes at first but then Tim came to stand on camera beside him and all of a sudden it's 'you have to like football very much and that's all' or whatever he said.
 
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I was getting the sense that Tim was trying to take the credit for Heze going on this field trip, like he wouldn't have ever had the opportunity if he hadn't pushed him in football. And you're right. Heze looked particularly uncomfortable when Tim was asking him if the people who were at all these jobs went to college or studied for these jobs. Heze said yes at first but then Tim came to stand on camera beside him and all of a sudden it's 'you have to like football very much and that's all' or whatever he said.
Abuse big time!!!!!controlling narc wanted to make heze feel uncomfortable in my eyes
 
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Oh gosh now Halle is signed to football , I thought she wanted to be an actor and harper liked football this is a huge change!
As a child you do what gets you the attention and praise .

poor hosanna is gonna be pushed right out now. Halle will be making friends and not so interested in being home rather be “training” to socialise.

Hosanba got that seeing machine and after one project it hasn’t come out since. She probably run out of materials and they refuse to buy her more .
They would rather have her prancing around dancing to tik tok sounds because that’s what pays the bills .

Watch how Halle becomes the favourite daughter over the coming months
 
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Poor Hosanna is going to feel the pressure even more now that Halle has been accepted into Crystal Palace. Tim has constantly put pressure on Hosanna and compares her to her siblings a lot so imagine how much more she’ll be compared now poor girl is going to be under a lot of stress and pressuring herself like crazy more than she already does! it doesn’t help that her siblings have been turned into mini Tim’s with big egos and so smug whenever they are doing better at football than their siblings and they enjoy bragging and rubbing their achievements in the other siblings faces cause the kids aren’t humble which is 100% Tim’s fault for giving them egos and that must be very hard when you see your siblings achieving these things and your dad rubbing it in your face that you need to do better and be just like your siblings.

If you’re not doing well at football in that family you are seen as a disappointment and useless and you get overlooked and I feel bad for Hosanna and her siblings cause that’s a very toxic home to be living in with all these football expectations and pressure put on you. Hosanna is constantly trying to get attention trying to get in front of the camera and get involved in every conversation she awkwardly stands there and forces hugs and tries to act like a he’s happy for her siblings but you can see she’s feeling insecure , left out and jealous hearing them talk about what they’ve achieved but I feel sorry for her because she’s her own person who is good at many things but she doesn’t get the chance to do those things and pursue her talents and it’s the same for all her siblings they’re all pushed into being footballers and taught that football is the only thing that matters in life it’s so unfair they are trapped in this cult.

Also I noticed at the start of the latest video Tim said something like “this is great for ME” when he was talking about Halle getting accepted into the team/academy , he takes credit for everything and acts like he’s achieved it he’s such a horrible selfish person and he’s so lazy he doesn’t work hard for anything in his life.
 
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Oh gosh now Halle is signed to football , I thought she wanted to be an actor and harper liked football this is a huge change!
As a child you do what gets you the attention and praise .

poor hosanna is gonna be pushed right out now. Halle will be making friends and not so interested in being home rather be “training” to socialise.

Hosanba got that seeing machine and after one project it hasn’t come out since. She probably run out of materials and they refuse to buy her more .
They would rather have her prancing around dancing to tik tok sounds because that’s what pays the bills .

Watch how Halle becomes the favourite daughter over the coming months
Halle said a year ago she was sent interesting being in a football team then she was suddenly in Chelsea system and now this. I still think it’s all links with Tim mate as he’s a Chelsea scout and they all work together. Tim makes them do this it’s not by choice at all what lies. As you said what about the acting now it’s as she wasn’t getting jobs they gone to football. Ok don’t start footy from nowhere and a year later be in an academy. R.E.M. how tik waid ij the last vlog u don’t have to be educated and still can get the job u want. He meant through contacts and that’s what’s happened here
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Hosanna doesn’t want to do football at all but is made to. Reu has totally changed him and harper just seem so fake and cocky to me now
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The girls chat was very fake and scripted by Tim especially harper
 
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They are for sure brainwashed. This is all about Tim. He is playing such a dangerous game with his children's mental health and education. Just because Tim has connections now and kisses ass now, doesn't mean he'll always have them and they'll benefit his kids always. That man is seriously wicked.
 
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