The DIS Unplugged #8

[Tbone1723]

I found some last night. He bought 4 Riviera contracts on August 17th 2022, all financed at $16400 each. There is a lot more activity but that’s as far as I got.

how do u find this tit man lmao

 

[Thunderbirdtoo]

Wasn't there a former Real Housewife who was in the news (well, Bravo news, anyway) recently for unpaid gambling debts in the Bahamas? I bet @countesslu would know who I mean. Seems very on brand for Pete to rack up debt like a washed up Real Housewife.

 

[BestRemoveThem]

Bravo has a news show?

 

[Thunderbirdtoo]

Lol - should have said news about Bravo. It wouldn't have hit real news sources; just gossip rags like the Daily Mail.

 

[Cinnamon1]

Wasn't there a former Real Housewife who was in the news (well, Bravo news, anyway) recently for unpaid gambling debts in the Bahamas? I bet @countesslu would know who I mean. Seems very on brand for Pete to rack up debt like a washed up Real Housewife.

Yes, plus she was into casinos and playing the online slot machines where you have to buy the coins for!

 

[cavamom]

Sean mentioned about guys that pay others to cruise with them for the sole reason of having a higher per-diem limit at the casino... Maybe this was the hint he dropped.

Since you you can charge your gambling losses to your room (which is then charged directly to your credit card), a huge losing streak could add up quickly on an Amex bill in addtion to the 30k+ you are paying on the cruise. Add in a shopping addiction and that maybe that is the picture that is being painted here over a period of 60-90 days.

He told a story about Pete getting locked into a slot machine and missing dinner. Maybe this isn't a "I loss a few thousand at the casinos", but is a "I lost everything addiction".

Pure speculation on my part, but I could see the pieces falling into place.

Has he been in a cruise other than Disney lately? I don’t remember him doing anything but Disney since Covid.
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Yes, plus she was into casinos and playing the online slot machines where you have to buy the coins for!

Kim Zolziak Biermann from RHOA. She’s been off the show for years but her family had their own show on bravo.

 

[Thunderbirdtoo]

Kim Zolziak Biermann from RHOA. She’s been off the show for years but her family had their own show on bravo.

That's it! The one with the bad wigs and the red solo cup full of wine everywhere she went. Thank you!

Wrong board, I know. The similarities are wild, and yet, not. Addiction is a terrible thing.

As Pete would have said, "back to me!"

 

[kjo]

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The one where he said he'd temporarily allow more open discourse and tell the mods to use more restraint with the delete button? So I guess "temporary" meant (checks watch) 7 1/2 hours? Bless his mainsplaining little heart!

This may already have been said - but it seems to be up now.
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Webmaster Kathy in one of the threads on the DIS forum
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Eek! I can't imagine it's still up there.

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The max an individual is allowed to own at a single resort is 4,000, with a maximum of 8,000 total across all resorts. From what I've read, Werner was/is somewhere in the range of 4,000 points total, but that seems to have been a rapidly moving number.

Based on the Hawaii Bureau of Conveyance, Werner has 4 Aulani DVC contracts, all purchased on 12/23/21, for a total of 1,300 points. He financed them all and the total mortgaged amount is $153,110. All were purchased by "Peter R. Werner, a single man".

To place the value in a liquidation context, those contracts are probably worth =/- $110 per point right now, or about $143,000, minus around 8% for broker's fees, so maybe $131,500. He could get out from under the debt reasonably easily, but the kicker is that those numbers mean he must have put down somewhere in the neighborhood of $50 or $60 per point. Aulani was selling at $200 PP in 2021, and the amount financed comes to about $118 PP, or an $80 PP difference. Incentives would have brought that $200 down maybe $30 PP, based on the contract sizes, so the down payment PP must have been in the $50 range, or $65K if my math is correct.

I don't know what amazes me more - that this information is out there for everyone to find, or that there are people (like @ProfessorFate ) who know how to find it! Impressive!
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Looks like they've called in the third shift...

Good god! Seriously?

 

[Thunderbirdtoo]

The threads over there are disappearing and reappearing (with edits) at lightspeed. I can only imagine what that behind the scenes power struggle must look like up close.

The collective detective skills on this board are indeed impressive. The truth is out there....

 

[kjo]

This . We know he has had gambling issues in the past. Completely plausible
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Yes!! I think we glossed over the gambling details. Curious, did he take a non Disney cruise in December?

I was not aware of a gambling issue.

 

[countesslu]

Wasn't there a former Real Housewife who was in the news (well, Bravo news, anyway) recently for unpaid gambling debts in the Bahamas? I bet @countesslu would know who I mean. Seems very on brand for Pete to rack up debt like a washed up Real Housewife.

Kim Zolciak Biermann, and yes the online gambling made me think of her instantly!!
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That's it! The one with the bad wigs and the red solo cup full of wine everywhere she went. Thank you!

Wrong board, I know. The similarities are wild, and yet, not. Addiction is a terrible thing.

As Pete would have said, "back to me!"

ah, my two worlds colliding.

 

[VloggerCritic]

Pausing the conversation - a note to those impacted by Pete's abuse, we haven't forgotten about you.
All this spitballing about how Pete built up so much debt is interesting, but it is just a civil lawsuit.
What he did otherwise, to all those he harmed, was criminal and there are no excuses for his actions.

My heart is with you as you work to recover what he stole from you. Be strong & please know I and many others care about you.

It could become criminal if Dreams presses charges against Pete to get themselves off the hook with Amex. I feel for the victims of his heinous crimes but sounds like statute of limitations has run out.

Capone went to jail on tax evasion....

 

[Blessyourheart]

Corey closed the main thread… we all want to move forward - blah blah blah. And this is the toxic place.

 

[HeyLetsGoState]

Corey closed the main thread… we all want to move forward - blah blah blah. And this is the toxic place.

It's because they want to move on with continuing to make money. Like I said many threads back. It was easy for these people to go on with their trite platitudes. Push certain political agendas. And just act holier than thou. But the second "it" hits the fan and they're seen for what they are, it's just "time to heal"

Remember Corey is the real victim here. He might run out of Pretzel money.

 

[DisneyDuck]

The live show from Saturday was just posted

 

[Cinnamon1]

They just posted on YouTube: Our Avengers Campus & Disneyland Highlights from Disney's Grand Californian Hotel - YouTube

 

[HeyLetsGoState]

They just posted on YouTube: Our Avengers Campus & Disneyland Highlights from Disney's Grand Californian Hotel - YouTube

Someone asked where Pete is

 

[Thunderbirdtoo]

ah, my two worlds colliding.

To be alive in the year of Scandoval AND Wernergate....

Back to Pete: someone over there is testing the boundaries:

Anyone? Anyone?

 

[RescueRanger]

how do u find this tit man lmao

Orange County comptroller site. I’ve been determined to find all the tea . https://selfservice.or.occompt.com/ssweb/user/disclaimer#/ssweb/
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I was not aware of a gambling issue.

Sean enlightened us

 

[Blessyourheart]

Julie posted on her IG that their daughter is having spinal fusion surgery tomorrow. Corey is toeing the line for crap boss #2, because there are more pressing issues. I get it & I hope she heals quickly. This falls on John.