Gee, thanks dad...Sounds like a well reasoned strategy for moving forward. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
I was sent this screenshot and asked to clarify that it was Webmaster Kathy that instituted this ban. I can’t speak to any emails because I wasn’t given information about that. If I’m given any further info that helps, I’ll definitely let you guys know.View attachment 2828722
I had to chuckle a bit at this because I never imagined anyone would consider me being their PR agent. They certainly wouldn’t.Why play their go between and run their public relations? If @Rufuscat says he got an email from Jackie and that impacted their getting banned I am inclined to believe them. We know they discuss things between mods.
If the boards want to start a discourse or allow you to appeal a ban, they can start a thread! Oh ooops, Corey doesn’t allow that.
If Jackie thinks she is getting unfairly blamed, make a freaking statement, clarify your position!
You relying selective info for whoever your source is, just feeds the problem.
If Jackie and other mods want to stay and protect the system that lacks transparency, then deal with the fact when you aren’t transparent, the public is not going to be able to get it 100% correct.
If I were to hazard a guess, it would be Deni. I don't think it is me since I work for a company and not myself.I wonder who he's talking about with the bolded sentence? JL? Deni? Panda? Anyway, do agree with you @Rufuscat that Craig can see and admit issues (though he does (perhaps unintentionally) come across as prickly sometimes -- perhaps due to the sarcasm and dry affect he mentions). So I guess the takeaway from this is they're still looking for more people to join the team (2?) but not specifically for an anchor/host? My first question is can the business sustain two more salaries right now?? My second is, it's already been almost 8 months since the previous supervisor left ... how much more time are we talking? And is an audience going to stick around for that?
I had no contact from Kathy, but when I emailed the moderators it was Jackie who responded with a terse 'we don't tolerate personal attacks, you're banned for life', but since learning about what was going on behind the scenes I don't think anyone in the know at Dreams or The Dis can get too much on their high horse about ethics. However, I am sure that Jackie/Kathy et al were under great pressure from above and were in a difficult position with any kind of criticism against the owners (or owner's boyfriend/husband) so I understand their motives. And thanks JL for the information you've provided, and sorry to everyone else for getting into the weeds about my personal ban, it must be very boring! I am sure there are dozens of similar stories from people here who have had altercations with the DIS/Dreams.Why play their go between and run their public relations? If @Rufuscat says he got an email from Jackie and that impacted their getting banned I am inclined to believe them. We know they discuss things between mods.
If the boards want to start a discourse or allow you to appeal a ban, they can start a thread! Oh ooops, Corey doesn’t allow that.
If Jackie thinks she is getting unfairly blamed, make a freaking statement, clarify your position!
You relying selective info for whoever your source is, just feeds the problem.
If Jackie and other mods want to stay and protect the system that lacks transparency, then deal with the fact when you aren’t transparent, the public is not going to be able to get it 100% correct.
There is several people who have been unfairly banned. For example, Ryan and Skier Pete who contributed significantly to the boards and were banned because of Pete’s abuse of power.I was given evidence that the ban was put in place by Webmaster Kathy. I
A year after the ban I did message Jackie asking if there was any chance of parole but never got a response, despite a 10+ year track record of being a helpful user on the boards. I don't tend to troll but Kevin was being awfully snobbish one week and he needed some push-back. A lifetime ban was a little excessive, suffice to say I stopped my Patreon contribution!There is several people who have been unfairly banned. For example, Ryan and Skier Pete who contributed significantly to the boards and were banned because of Pete’s abuse of power.
While it may have been Mary Jo, Jackie, Kathy (or whoever) who pulled the trigger, any one of them could have spoken up.
If you play their go between it allows them to remain behind a curtain, continue to be toxic and not engage with the affected or their audience.
Has Jackie done shit all to get @Rufuscat or any of the other unfairly banned people unbanned? Oh, so her justification is it wasn’t her personally?
You decide to provide prove it wasn’t her. Fine I acknowledge it wasn’t her, but I argue she continues supports the utterly toxic system so she might as well have.
Okay so you have mentioned a couple of times you may be relying info from “whoever” who wants to have things posted here. Personally I think they could have emailed Rufus directly and/or actually unbanned them but whatever let’s roll with it. I look forward to all the 3rd hand truth we uncover.I will continue to keep bringing things to light to help everyone understand what *actually* has happened or does happen over there so that y'all don't have to speculate as much.
That's too bad. I think a lot of good posters got run off by the moderation and clearly continue to, to this day, despite the temporary relaxing of rules. I applaud whatever your reply was to Kevin. I remember him as one of the worst in terms of snarkiness. If anyone said anything REMOTELY critical he clapped back in a tone that would have handed anyone else a ban. It was to a point that I didn't bother to post anything on the podcast board because I didn't want to get into an argument with him (and his supporters who rushed to back him up at any turn). Ironically enough, I actually really enjoy(ed) his restaurant reviews, like(d) hearing about trips to Hawaii or actual ABD trips (not advertisements for them) and thought it was sweet how he spoke of his childhood visit(s) to WDW with such fondness and gratitude to his parents for making it happen. But on the boards, yikes. Always tough to accurately determine intent with written posts but he seemed to assume all were personal attacks and went right back at you. All that said, I don't think he's posted in years.A year after the ban I did message Jackie asking if there was any chance of parole but never got a response, despite a 10+ year track record of being a helpful user on the boards. I don't tend to troll but Kevin was being awfully snobbish one week and he needed some push-back. A lifetime ban was a little excessive, suffice to say I stopped my Patreon contribution!
I completely agree with you about Kevin. There was so much I liked about him.That's too bad. I think a lot of good posters got run off by the moderation and clearly continue to, to this day, despite the temporary relaxing of rules. I applaud whatever your reply was to Kevin. I remember him as one of the worst in terms of snarkiness. If anyone said anything REMOTELY critical he clapped back in a tone that would have handed anyone else a ban. It was to a point that I didn't bother to post anything on the podcast board because I didn't want to get into an argument with him (and his supporters who rushed to back him up at any turn). Ironically enough, I actually really enjoy(ed) his restaurant reviews, like(d) hearing about trips to Hawaii or actual ABD trips (not advertisements for them) and thought it was sweet how he spoke of his childhood visit(s) to WDW with such fondness and gratitude to his parents for making it happen. But on the boards, yikes. Always tough to accurately determine intent with written posts but he seemed to assume all were personal attacks and went right back at you. All that said, I don't think he's posted in years.
If it's any consolation, karma appears to have finally bitten Webmaster Kathy. While her account is still active, she hasn't posted (at least under that account) since August when she was accused of anti-semitic remarks and issued a non-apology apology.
There is several people who have been unfairly banned. For example, Ryan and Skier Pete who contributed significantly to the boards and were banned because of Pete’s abuse of power.
While it may have been Mary Jo, Jackie, Kathy (or whoever) who pulled the trigger, any one of them could have spoken up.
If you play their go between it allows them to remain behind a curtain, continue to be toxic and not engage with the affected or their audience.
Has Jackie done shit all to get @Rufuscat or any of the other unfairly banned people unbanned? Oh, so her justification is it wasn’t her personally?
You decide to provide prove it wasn’t her. Fine I acknowledge it wasn’t her, but I argue she continues supports the utterly toxic system so she might as well have.
Take a deep breath, and please acknowledge that I have not disagreed with many of your points. I think you are getting yourself worked up when it isn't necessary. No one is knocking on your door. You can put the shotgun down if you find it is getting heavy.Okay so you have mentioned a couple of times you may be relying info from “whoever” who wants to have things posted here. Personally I think they could have emailed Rufus directly and/or actually unbanned them but whatever let’s roll with it. I look forward to all the 3rd hand truth we uncover.
Now that you have this childish and toxic game of telephone started up as their messenger can I ask a couple of clarifying things?
1. Will you post anything from people over there? Or only people who you like? Or will you be filtering? Censoring?
2. Can we have you rely messages and screenshots BACK or does the seeking of truth only go one direction?
If you post messages from them publicly on their behalf, I am going to reply to you. They continue to be toxic and their messages miss the point, so my replies are likely going to be negative. If you don’t want to be the messenger..then don’t? I don’t know what you expect.
I took it as a reference to Molly leaving AllEars to start Mammoth.I wonder who he's talking about with the bolded sentence? JL? Deni? Panda?
Hi! My life has ups and downs like everyone else, but I can't complain about much except for oak pollen. I complain loudly about oak pollen these days.JL how you been!?! Would you ever return to the DIS if they asked or do a tap house talks!?
I agree. He is talking about Molly. They are friends.I took it as a reference to Molly leaving AllEars to start Mammoth.
I'd hope so. He also has that pesky $900K debt on a Dreams AmEx. I don't think anyone would argue it's Pete who should have to repay it but legally speaking I think AmEx has a good argument that Dreams is liable. But in terms of content, I'd imagine they all already have annual passes so they could do "regular" park content that doesn't involve purchasing anything extra. I'll be interested to see whether he sends any of them out to cover D23.Just speculation but isn't it possible that John isn't funding the Dis Unlimited shows like before because revenues at the travel agency are down and he is being more realistic than spend like a billionaire Pete ?
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