Sali Hughes #33 Grifty shades of grey. It's a complex case.

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*Cool cool cool no doubt no doubt.

Asssumed I would be a) reported b) told to start a rave thread c) “hi Sali’d“<<insert her staff>> This truly is a civilsied corner of Tattle. SH should be perversely proud.


*Jake Peralta
 
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Eg at the back of Sali's book Pretty Honest she had a long list of beauty and makeup specialists to watch on YT - no Lisa - who many would consider THE best for online tutorials.
That was such a glaring ommission, really struck me at the time too.
SH did an event with Lisa in 2015. There's a few pics online and this video that I could find.

It may be that there's no big deal around them not doing anything together. Lisa certainly doesn't need to do ITB and they haven't become friends. SH doesn't really talk about other figures in the industry unless she's in done way connected to them or knows them.
Sali's hardly going to answer "trying to make this happen" or "I've asked Lisa but not heard back/she's refused".
 
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I was matched as Groenland by a professional make up artist and I have olive skin and have never been described as any kind of pale.
Honestly, she often looks like she’s smeared herself in marmite. Also, it’s not really sheer coverage, so her claim that this is why she’s gone the Oompa Loompa route (again) is bollocks.
 
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I’m a massive LE fan and have followed since the early days when she was involved with No7. I messaged her once on FB and she responded directly with so much grace. She just comes across as such a lovely woman and talented to boot.

Not ashamed to say I’m happy to spend money on whatever products she comes up with and not been disappointed so far- have couple of her rings (the cheapest in the range) and 4-5 of her lipsticks, pencil, lips gloss and they are all great. Trying to avoid looking at the new products she’s released as only recently stocked up on couple of lovely blushes from Iconic and feel there no needed to spend more on new products.

To me she is a true star and a person that inspires people. Really enjoyed her make up documentary on the BBC.
LE reminds me of Nigella. Aside from the success thing, they're both so lovely and gracious on social media. I swear Nigella must have to spend two hours every day replying 'Looks delicious!' or 'Fabulous!' to people who tweet her pics of their dinner or cake.
 
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LE reminds me of Nigella. Aside from the success thing, they're both so lovely and gracious on social media. I swear Nigella must have to spend two hours every day replying 'Looks delicious!' or 'Fabulous!' to people who tweet her pics of their dinner or cake.
Yes good comparison. And both seem to steadfastly refuse to get drawn into twitter nonsense and spats.
I get the feeling they both understand that with the massive perks of fame will come a downside - but they don't play victim or dwell on those bits.
 
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That was such a glaring ommission, really struck me at the time too.
SH did an event with Lisa in 2015. There's a few pics online and this video that I could find.

It may be that there's no big deal around them not doing anything together. Lisa certainly doesn't need to do ITB and they haven't become friends. SH doesn't really talk about other figures in the industry unless she's in done way connected to them or knows them.
Sali's hardly going to answer "trying to make this happen" or "I've asked Lisa but not heard back/she's refused".
But it's not like any of the others 'needed' to do ITB either. Wendy Rowe, Mary Greenwell, Sam McKnight are celebrities in their field. I'd say it's highly unlikely Lisa would refuse or ignore Sali if asked. It's more likely that Sali just has never asked especially when you take into consideration all the other points mentioned, e.g Sali is a 'beauty editor' and has never covered Lisa's makeup or mentioned it. There is surely some kind of beef there
 
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I get the feeling they both understand that with the massive perks of fame will come a downside - but they don't play victim or dwell on those bits.
When you're famous as a by product of being seriously good at what you do, you'll always have better things to focus on than opinion and idle gossip.

It's different for those who court celebrity, controversy, or just generally pursue approval.
 
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When you're famous as a by product of being seriously good at what you do, you'll always have better things to focus on than opinion and idle gossip.

It's different for those who court celebrity, controversy, or just generally pursue approval.
Great point, and easy to find loads of examples of this in the wild
 
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Great point, and easy to find loads of examples of this in the wild
I don't enjoy celebrity and I'm very aware of the desperation that surrounds it. It's an odd lifestyle to pursue.

We're all just people. Some of us are good at our jobs, hugely talented, massively skilled, beautiful, intelligent, charismatic, funny, but we don't all need or get a round of applause! We don't all need to document our every move, every makeup application, every 'witty' interaction with our friends. As normal folk, we just get on with our lives. It's all fine.

I increasingly find myself questioning the motives and mentality of people that do need to feel that they're special and different and the people who enable it. What do they get out of it?
 
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I don't enjoy celebrity and I'm very aware of the desperation that surrounds it. It's an odd lifestyle to pursue.

We're all just people. Some of us are good at our jobs, hugely talented, massively skilled, beautiful, intelligent, charismatic, funny, but we don't all need or get a round of applause! We don't all need to document our every move, every makeup application, every 'witty' interaction with our friends. As normal folk, we just get on with our lives. It's all fine.

I increasingly find myself questioning the motives and mentality of people that do need to feel that they're special and different and the people who enable it. What do they get out of it?
This! It's a fascinating topic, isn't it? I am both shy and introverted, so the very idea of seeking out this kind of attention is incomprehensible. I don't even like people singing happy birthday to me (what are you meant to do while that is happening?). Do you know of any books that delve into this subject? Particularly the part about people who feel they are special and different and deserve to be put on a pedestal? (Sali falls very much into this camp, I feel)
 
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This! It's a fascinating topic, isn't it? I am both shy and introverted, so the very idea of seeking out this kind of attention is incomprehensible. I don't even like people singing happy birthday to me (what are you meant to do while that is happening?).
I don’t like my birthday for this very reason! 😩
 
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This! It's a fascinating topic, isn't it? I am both shy and introverted, so the very idea of seeking out this kind of attention is incomprehensible. I don't even like people singing happy birthday to me (what are you meant to do while that is happening?). Do you know of any books that delve into this subject? Particularly the part about people who feel they are special and different and deserve to be put on a pedestal? (Sali falls very much into this camp, I feel)
All of this. Birthdays are the frigging worst.
 
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I don't enjoy celebrity and I'm very aware of the desperation that surrounds it. It's an odd lifestyle to pursue.

We're all just people. Some of us are good at our jobs, hugely talented, massively skilled, beautiful, intelligent, charismatic, funny, but we don't all need or get a round of applause! We don't all need to document our every move, every makeup application, every 'witty' interaction with our friends. As normal folk, we just get on with our lives. It's all fine.

I increasingly find myself questioning the motives and mentality of people that do need to feel that they're special and different and the people who enable it. What do they get out of it?
I would say that a good 90% if not more of influencers and very active posters on social media all rate very high on the narcissism spectrum.

The constant need for validation is dangerous, insidious and extremely unhealthy.

I'm really good at my job, if I were an extrovert, I'd probably be a lot more successful but I know my mental health could not cope with it as I don't like putting myself out there. I just like getting on with things in the background and doing a great job and building my reputation that way. I don't need industry recognition or awards to sustain me, seeing the success of my projects and clients is enough for me without my name being out there or schmoozing at industry events constantly.

Sali, being the thin-skinned narcissist she is, really should not be an influencer. End of.

She'll never admit though because of her enormously fragile ego.


PS - Sal, I'm 42 (not there yet - but nearly!) and I haven't coloured my hair for two years. I'm letting my mousey (once white blonde) hair grow out because it is in the best condition it's been in since I was 12. I'd rather have healthier thicker hair than some candyfloss brassy shite. Stop trying to be something you're not and just be YOU. You will be SO much more content.
 
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@Annasho, such a thoughtful comment. IMO the wonders if social media have a lot to do with this truly awful phenomenon. Deliciously Stella wrote a very honest article on the topic recently:

it’s a mindfuck of a game to play being an influencer. People get sucked in and forget all the easy praise and earnings often come with a hefty MH price to pay in exchange.
 
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@Annasho, such a thigh tail comment. IMO the wonders if social media have a lot to do with this truly awful phenomenon. Deliciously Stella wrote a very honest article on the topic recently:

it’s a mindfuck of a game to play being an influencer. People get sucked in and forget all the easy praise and earnings often come without a hefty MH price to pay in exchange.
The sooner social media influencers die out the better for all involved.

Unbelievably damaging in so many ways.
 
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