Sali Hughes #16 The sell-out who couldn't sell out, and that is a legal fact.

[Jelly Bean]

The amount of free stuff she gets - including exclusive boilersuits, is just incredible isn't it?

 

[Analina]

Hi All, I am a newbie here...I hope you are all well and safe

I never thought I would feel the need in myself to write on here or on a similar site, I have never really paid much attention or given much thought to such things until I came across a shared video on insta that Sali H had posted, someone I had stopped following a long time ago because of her lies and false recommendations. This was a video where she ranted so angrily about how she and her family had been abused and victimised. She was reading from a paper like an enraged animal her face bright red. It made me so angry to hear her play the victim, if she was genuine and unjustly hurt she could have spoken from the heart rather than reading from a piece of paper like a crazy angry robot! Because as a consumer having previously bought into her bullsh** and seen the changes she and many others like her have gone through the years, I strongly feel that people should have a right to a platform to express themselves (from some of the posts I read on tattle on her) they seemed fair to me, there were some comments that were on e more personal note that I don't condone with although I did not read anything about her children or husbands, but if she gets caught up in her web of lies she can choose to ignore if she doesn't like it then why read it, she is still getting brands to work with her, if these comments are untrue then she would have nothing to worry about?? it is no surprise that if you put yourself out there you won't be like by all! In the video I think she said SOME other influencer apparently told her of this site as she was not aware....Sali pls give it a rest, if it doesn't please you...jog on write another useless "book"or something I don't think the comments on tattle are affecting your business or are they?

I for one, can completely understand why people are frustrated from all this BS, you may expect this from a younger influencer to push products for an extra buck, but when you act all high and mighty, pretend that you have all this knowledge, expertise/ integrity, and use your contacts in the industry, interview all these celebs and yet in the end you are no different to any of the rest, they are all the same kind of lying leaches, trying to make a living from brands pushing products on their behalf for a whole load of money and commission, to people they have build a trust with who are less knowledgeable and vulnerable into buying into their lies. I know that to be true because that was me in my late 20's. One minute Sali hates petroleum another minute (when its the tom ford face whipped face cream) she loves it!! When I brought her up on this, she replied to me that some formulas are formulated differently! Petroleum is Petroleum Sali, Tom Ford no Tom Ford it is still a cheap product!!

They have developed this status that they "know it all" and what they say is gold! Sali is someone like many of us (I suspect) I used to respect and look forward to hearing about her beauty/skincare advise but that was a very very long time ago, a time where she appeared to be merely a consumer with a lot of access to the latest beauty and skincare products. This was long back in the day where the online beauty industry was far less sophisticated and active as it is nowadays! Thinking back I am sure the goal was always the same (to make as much money) after all she is a journalist its no surprise she can whip up a good story, it is just they were less sophisticated than they are now and they were still new at this Influencer game!!

They have become more cunning and better liars with time. For anyone that knows Sali or Caroline know for well they are far in the "victim" category, they are both loud mouthed bullies that will stomp on anyone that gets in their way, the only difference is that Sali does her stomping with a posh accent and Caroline in a more vulgar kinda way, they both hide behind their beautybanks, which is so ironic because you con so many costumers out of their money then gift free donated products to the less fortunate, I don't know how true that charity is but all I can say it would take a whole lot more doing to clean your consciences than that!

Sali started making money once she realised making videos for the Gurdian was far more profitable than writing a column, Caroline with the help of amodelrecomends started youtube videos as she realised the blog was not cutting it. I have seen Caroline in person, with very little to no makeup, at Pret a manger in Fulham ( I believe that is where her office is) let me tell you her skin looked like a horses ass, full of pigmentation, saggy, texture, dark circles, I know she is in her 50s, some of it may be genetics, but for someone that claims to know it all man did her skin look rough as hell!!
I remember thinking to myself why on earth did I spend my hard earned money based on her skincare advise. She is not a Derm and NO skin expert she is a sales woman and a very good one at it! thank god those days for me are long gone and I don't spend my hard earned money based on their recommendations!! I have seen a dermatologist I now only use 5 products in total and none of which can be bought from money grabbers spacenk or cult beauty and my skin has never looked better.

They make a living by pushing products with embellished false claims, using the statuses they have earned by these loyal consumers (some of which have now turned on them) I don't agree with trolling or abuse but its about time these manipulating money hungry bullies were put in their place.

Rant over....somehow I feel better, lighter ahhahaah ...thank you for allowing me on this platform to express myself

 

[Jammy_Dodger]

I have seen a dermatologist I now only use 5 products in total and none of which can be bought from money grabbers spacenk or cult beauty and my skin has never looked better.

Would you mind sharing what you use? I need some new stuff and refuse to spend with the brands that are paying these influencers.

 

[Jelly Bean]

Would you mind sharing what you use? I need some new stuff and refuse to spend with the brands that are paying these influencers.

Yes I would be extremely interested too. All my stuff is running out at the same time.

 

[Jade Mitzi]

I've been wondering why this particular death has captured so much attention, particularly in the influencer world (correct me if I'm wrong but I haven't seen a comparable level of interest in mainstream media).

There have been many recent and not so recent unlawful deaths of black people at the hands of police in both the UK and US, and I haven't noticed anywhere near the same level of comment.

they are very possibly hoping their little influencer comment, made from their little influencer bubble will go viral, be used in collages of quotes on the news etc etc. Bandwagon jumping, Sali is a pro at it.

 

[Booklover]

Hi All, I am a newbie here...I hope you are all well and safe

I never thought I would feel the need in myself to write on here or on a similar site, I have never really paid much attention or given much thought to such things until I came across a shared video on insta that Sali H had posted, someone I had stopped following a long time ago because of her lies and false recommendations. This was a video where she ranted so angrily about how she and her family had been abused and victimised. She was reading from a paper like an enraged animal her face bright red. It made me so angry to hear her play the victim, if she was genuine and unjustly hurt she could have spoken from the heart rather than reading from a piece of paper like a crazy angry robot! Because as a consumer having previously bought into her bullsh** and seen the changes she and many others like her have gone through the years, I strongly feel that people should have a right to a platform to express themselves (from some of the posts I read on tattle on her) they seemed fair to me, there were some comments that were on e more personal note that I don't condone with although I did not read anything about her children or husbands, but if she gets caught up in her web of lies she can choose to ignore if she doesn't like it then why read it, she is still getting brands to work with her, if these comments are untrue then she would have nothing to worry about?? it is no surprise that if you put yourself out there you won't be like by all! In the video I think she said SOME other influencer apparently told her of this site as she was not aware....Sali pls give it a rest, if it doesn't please you...jog on write another useless "book"or something I don't think the comments on tattle are affecting your business or are they?

I for one, can completely understand why people are frustrated from all this BS, you may expect this from a younger influencer to push products for an extra buck, but when you act all high and mighty, pretend that you have all this knowledge, expertise/ integrity, and use your contacts in the industry, interview all these celebs and yet in the end you are no different to any of the rest, they are all the same kind of lying leaches, trying to make a living from brands pushing products on their behalf for a whole load of money and commission, to people they have build a trust with who are less knowledgeable and vulnerable into buying into their lies. I know that to be true because that was me in my late 20's. One minute Sali hates petroleum another minute (when its the tom ford face whipped face cream) she loves it!! When I brought her up on this, she replied to me that some formulas are formulated differently! Petroleum is Petroleum Sali, Tom Ford no Tom Ford it is still a cheap product!!

They have developed this status that they "know it all" and what they say is gold! Sali is someone like many of us (I suspect) I used to respect and look forward to hearing about her beauty/skincare advise but that was a very very long time ago, a time where she appeared to be merely a consumer with a lot of access to the latest beauty and skincare products. This was long back in the day where the online beauty industry was far less sophisticated and active as it is nowadays! Thinking back I am sure the goal was always the same (to make as much money) after all she is a journalist its no surprise she can whip up a good story, it is just they were less sophisticated than they are now and they were still new at this Influencer game!!

They have become more cunning and better liars with time. For anyone that knows Sali or Caroline know for well they are far in the "victim" category, they are both loud mouthed bullies that will stomp on anyone that gets in their way, the only difference is that Sali does her stomping with a posh accent and Caroline in a more vulgar kinda way, they both hide behind their beautybanks, which is so ironic because you con so many costumers out of their money then gift free donated products to the less fortunate, I don't know how true that charity is but all I can say it would take a whole lot more doing to clean your consciences than that!

Sali started making money once she realised making videos for the Gurdian was far more profitable than writing a column, Caroline with the help of amodelrecomends started youtube videos as she realised the blog was not cutting it. I have seen Caroline in person, with very little to no makeup, at Pret a manger in Fulham ( I believe that is where her office is) let me tell you her skin looked like a horses ass, full of pigmentation, saggy, texture, dark circles, I know she is in her 50s, some of it may be genetics, but for someone that claims to know it all man did her skin look rough as hell!!
I remember thinking to myself why on earth did I spend my hard earned money based on her skincare advise. She is not a Derm and NO skin expert she is a sales woman and a very good one at it! thank god those days for me are long gone and I don't spend my hard earned money based on their recommendations!! I have seen a dermatologist I now only use 5 products in total and none of which can be bought from money grabbers spacenk or cult beauty and my skin has never looked better.

They make a living by pushing products with embellished false claims, using the statuses they have earned by these loyal consumers (some of which have now turned on them) I don't agree with trolling or abuse but its about time these manipulating money hungry bullies were put in their place.

Rant over....somehow I feel better, lighter ahhahaah ...thank you for allowing me on this platform to express myself

Very well written. For me, the time during lockdown has made me see so many of these beauty instafloggers for what they really are. I've unfollowed quite a few.

 

[Analina]

Very well written. For me, the time during lockdown has made me see so many of these beauty instafloggers for what they really are. I've unfollowed quite a few.

thank you and I totally agree

I wish the current me could go back in time and tell the old me ...save your money, look at ingredients and only trust those, if things don't improve save your money see a dermatologist, but we live and learn. It is only recently they have been forced to declare adds and payments and some if not all still lie and cheat their way if then can, prior to that they were literally milking it! Not to mention that Sali, Caroline etc, their age demographic of followers starts from 16-17 up to late 60's - they are literally rolling in it! which I would not mind if what they were selling was genuine, however the line between being genuine and ingenue is so fine and so blurry which of course only makes it easier for them to get away with anything!

Would you mind sharing what you use? I need some new stuff and refuse to spend with the brands that are paying these influencers.

I will do my best to tell you what I have used, but I don't know your age, skin type, concerns or budget but I hope I can be somewhat helpful

My skin type is normal to sometimes dry on the outer part with an oily t zone prone to blackheads on the nose and hormonal acne around the chin or sides of face (mainly during that time of the month) I also had some sun damage on top of my cheeks so my general target was to get clearer skin and to lighten my pigmentation.

I saw a dermatologist, she prescribed me the following;
1)Basic cleanser, cant remember the brand but It was a foam like cleanser not stripping a very similar one is Curel they sell this in boots now and I really like it. does the job, does not strip your skin,it lasts for ages, can be used to remove makeup and as a morning cleanser - you really don't need a gazillion cleansers If you have any of my skin issues, I would advise stay away from anything that contains oil..the only oil I use is part of my vitamin c.
2)Tretionoin 05% (brand was obagi this is a thick cream)
3)Vitamin c serum 15% (brand was obagi this is oil based)
4)SPF (brand was heliocare)

In addition to this, I was also given to use as and when needed,
5) Finacea gel 15% this is a generic azealic acid - it is more of a milky white lotion like than gel (always in the morning if using tretinoin)
6) Duac gel - this is Contains an antibiotic called Clindamycin to stop bacteria associated with acne from reproducing as well as Benzoyl Peroxide which reduces blackheads and whiteheads I used the one that comes in blue at 5% gel, there is also one at 3% in green. (used at night and morning when needed on breakouts )
you can get both of these online- I have done this without needing to go and see a dermatologist, they are available online at several pharmacies, you don't need a prescription. you may also get these for less from your GP I have not bothers as they are less than £20

I basically only used these products for 6 months and my skin never looked better. I gave away all my other products, la mer, la praire, Drunk elephant, este Lauder, Murad, may lindstrom, alpha h, Sunday Riley...to name just a few, I mean I was a skin care junkie yet nothing ever made a difference.

After the six month I did try Tri Luma cream - its a tretinoin cream mixed with hydroquinone which is the only skin lightning ingredient that actually works to lighten sun damage or melasma. It deff works, it can only be used for a max of 4 months then you have to take a break, and if you use spf it will keep the brown patches away. there is some controversy around it, I personally think if used correctly it does the job and no harm!

I have maintained this routine and have not diverted, I still use the same principles, basic oil free cleanser, I am currently using the Is Clinical Cleansing Complex - this is mild enough to use with retinol/tretinoins it won't burn.

I have added a scrub, I use this daily my skin loves it. its Lancer the method scrub - all three versions he makes are great. I use the same vit
c serum from obabi 15% and the same spf from heliocare they do a few and all are great and affordable. they also contain antioxidants so you don't need to spend money on different lotions potions peptides and serums.

I have also used the Obagi nu derm program and Zo skin medical- Both brands were created by the same dr, he sold the first company Obagi and created a new one called Zo Skin. Both work great but cost a lot of money.

Now that I know what works from me I don't see a derm any more. I buy my Tretinoin when I go abroad or get family or friends to buy it for me, you can use tretinoin even after is use by date, I am currently using refissa it is very emollient and at 0.5% which is the best tretionoin (vitamin A) cream I have ever used, I have tried obagi and a few others this is by far my favourite. My mum got this from me in the US I don't know if it available in the UK. But any Tretinoin will do, it is the gold standard I would not waste my money on retinols or all this bull tit they try to sell us. If you are serious about skincare invest in tretinoin and stick with it, It takes a few weeks, your skin will shed a bit but it is the only thing that has made a difference to skin texture, dark spots, sun damage, black heads on t zone etc.I initially used it once a week until I build a tolerance, always use spf your skin will thank you for it.

I hope I have been somewhat helpful - everyone deserve good skin- and we all would have if we saved our money and did not waste it on the latest trends.


I hope this helps,

 

[AllAboutTheMayhem]

Hi- Hopping over from another thread ( Lorna luxe) to vent a little.
I too saw the puce-faced rant a while back. Prior to her rant I’d never heard of her, never heard of Caroline thingy, & never heard of the “ no filter” Nadine ( ball deep in Botox)

I really need to go through all of these threads... but what the HELL is with the shaky voice and gasping and gurning ?
Is she on coke? I originally thought the comedic-shaking-voice was for effect during the super rant.. but evidently not. It’s there all the time. It’s like she’s in a perpetual state of terror versus boiling rage..has it only been like this since the rant?

 

[Badabing101]

they are very possibly hoping their little influencer comment, made from their little influencer bubble will go viral, be used in collages of quotes on the news etc etc. Bandwagon jumping, Sali is a pro at it.

Yep I definitely agree with the band wagon jumping ... it’s like FUUUUCCCKKKK I need to post something because if I don’t I look like I don’t care ... which doesn’t look great on my ‘record’ ...

 

[Lemsipmax]

On a lighter note - on the much requested video at the bottom she writes:
'Ad info. NOT paid for ......all products #presssamples #gifted'

I'm confused. So is she saying it is an ad?
Or getting out of saying it is an ad?

What the duck does "gifted" mean in this context? If you actually asked them to explain. A brand has given you a product for free. Explain exactly why they would give that to you. You're just their favourite lovely person? It was your birthday? They heard you were feeling a bit down. You just had a baby? These are the reasons friends give people gifts. WHY ARE THEY GIVING YOU GIFTS? They expect you to mention their product. OF COURSE THE bleeping DO!

It's you giving your endorsement no matter how passive. It's an Ad!!!

Edited because I thought I heard my cat flap straining under the weight of an ex mp.

 

[Aude]

What the duck does "gifted" mean in this context? If you actually asked them to explain. A brand has given you a product for free. Explain exactly why they would give that to you. You're just their favourite lovely person? It was your birthday? They heard you were feeling a bit down. You just had a baby? These are the reasons friends give people gifts. WHY ARE THEY GIVING YOU GIFTS? They expect you to mention their product. OF COURSE THE bleeping DO!

It's you giving your endorsement no matter how passive. It's an Ad!!!

Edited because I thought I heard my cat flap straining under the weight of an ex mp.

And what does 'press sample' mean in this context? She isn't a member of the press in this context.

 

[AdoraDelano]

Lauren Laverne posted this about her dad, a very sweet post but clock the candle at the top. FFS.

 

[Mokie]

What the duck does "gifted" mean in this context? If you actually asked them to explain. A brand has given you a product for free. Explain exactly why they would give that to you. You're just their favourite lovely person? It was your birthday? They heard you were feeling a bit down. You just had a baby? These are the reasons friends give people gifts. WHY ARE THEY GIVING YOU GIFTS? They expect you to mention their product. OF COURSE THE bleeping DO!

It's you giving your endorsement no matter how passive. It's an Ad!!!

Edited because I thought I heard my cat flap straining under the weight of an ex mp.

Yet we’re broken people for questioning this

 

[zcfthc5]

Theres something about whistles freebies (worth £150+) when the staff are paid min wage and dont get free clothes that feels extra gross.

Whistles must have asked her for her size, it's not like its arrival would have been unexpected.

 

[Mokie]

I remember Esther Coren saying she had been invited by Hush to pick out a few items from their new collection. Maybe this is how it works? Probably much cheaper and effective to ‘gift’ items of clothing to influencers than advertise in a magazine etc

 

[Lemsipmax]

Massively cheaper. Even if they send an item out to 100 influencers.

 

[zcfthc5]

I remember Esther Coren saying she had been invited by Hush to pick out a few items from their new collection. Maybe this is how it works? Probably much cheaper and effective to ‘gift’ items of clothing to influencers than advertise in a magazine etc

Ironic that internet video posters influencers like sali are contributing to the collapse of print media in this way whilst crying that they are the victim.

 

[Aude]

I remember Esther Coren saying she had been invited by Hush to pick out a few items from their new collection. Maybe this is how it works? Probably much cheaper and effective to ‘gift’ items of clothing to influencers than advertise in a magazine etc

That sounds exactly like how it works. And, yes, very cheap advertising for the brand.

Whistles must have asked her for her size, it's not like its arrival would have been unexpected.

No need to ask. In any discussion about clothes she shoehorns in that she's a size 8.

 

[Lemsipmax]

Lol

 

[SqualorVictoria]

@anelu

That sounds exactly like how it works. And, yes, very cheap advertising for the brand.


No need to ask. In any discussion about clothes she shoehorns in that she's a size 8.

A size 8 but with tits so big she has to sleep in a bra